Intact male dogs.
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Hawkeye is 5 and intact. He is a very good dog, never mars indoors at any location even in things like barns which are full of crap and pee. He also never gets the red rocket at least not that I can ever see under all that coat.
He does have other males pick fight with hi sometimes but he himself does not try and start fights. He does have a musky odor to him and he does do the teeth chattering and does a daily momentary check of Lark's girly bits. He doesn't hump anyone but he does get humped by Lark quite frequently.
He does have other males pick fight with hi sometimes but he himself does not try and start fights. He does have a musky odor to him and he does do the teeth chattering and does a daily momentary check of Lark's girly bits. He doesn't hump anyone but he does get humped by Lark quite frequently.
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I'm fostering a 2 year old intact male Rottweiler.
When he first moved in, he marked my SO's side of the bed twice, and the entertainment center. To my knowledge, there have been no further instances of that. I could also chalk that up to not having ever lived in a house before, but since he has balls, I'll blame them.
Overall, he's a pretty easy keeper. I haven't noticed any teeth chattering or drooling, but I'm also unaware of any bitches in heat in the area. He's a bit stubborn, but again... I could make that be a variety of reasons other than his nuts.
Oh, and his peep is ALWAYS out when he sits. Just flops right on out. Like it ain't no big deal.
When he first moved in, he marked my SO's side of the bed twice, and the entertainment center. To my knowledge, there have been no further instances of that. I could also chalk that up to not having ever lived in a house before, but since he has balls, I'll blame them.
Overall, he's a pretty easy keeper. I haven't noticed any teeth chattering or drooling, but I'm also unaware of any bitches in heat in the area. He's a bit stubborn, but again... I could make that be a variety of reasons other than his nuts.
Oh, and his peep is ALWAYS out when he sits. Just flops right on out. Like it ain't no big deal.
honestly, I see this stuff just as much in neutered males...the sniffing urine, teeth chattering, marking, humping, lipstick out, etc.. I think being intact can maybe some times strengthen the behavior, but it seems to be something they do more out of instinct. I always get a chuckle when someone says they are going to fix their dog young so they don't mark...I've neutered all my males at 6-8 months and yet to have one that didn't lift his leg. They don't mark in the house, but I do have to keep on top of them when visiting others.
Are you sure your math is right? Hudson is only 9 months and I thought Merlin was younger
I think it's a GSD thing, lol. Growing up our neutered male GSD ALWAYS had his out when sitting. Like, always.
All of our dogs growing up were neutered males. And Hudson is being left intact until he gives me a reason to chop 'em off. I totally broke my rule of "No boys with balls in the house" but I guess I broke that for the husband too.
He does have to mark ALL. THE. THINGS. and when we are out and about on walks, excitement poo's, which quickly turn into loose excitement poo's. We were at a dog event a few weekends ago, and I knew we had to start wrapping things up by the solidity of Hudson's poo's.
He likes to taste pee and teeth chatter. Well, he likes to teeth chatter and I assume it's because he just tasted pee, but he has been a chatterer since the day we brought him home.
He does not hump. Occasionally he will hump other dogs, but it is usually because that dog was humping him first. He does not try to hump people, or blankets, or stuffed animals. I consider myself pretty lucky there. They tell me my sister's dog was a terrible humper before they neutered him (6-7 months old) but he stopped after he was neutered. I swear my mom hardly had this sentence out before I looked over and my sister's dog was humping Hudson, lol.
He did have a phase of marking on the kitchen chairs, but they are wood on hard wood so no biggie. We just kept him locked in the living room with us for a while. One day I caught him peeing on the chair while I was in the Kitchen and said, "Hudson, we don't pee on the chairs", so that was the end of that. Thank goodness for a dog that speaks English.
I can't really compare him to neutered siblings because I think everyone of them is still intact. I know the breeder suggests leaving them until at least 1 year old.
He likes to scratch with his back legs. At first I thought it was a 'covering poo' thing, but now he uses it to rev up before zoomies.
But mostly, he's just a dog, doing dog things. He's a big goober. He is goofier than my last dog, but I don't remember how goofy that dog was as a puppy. He thinks all people are put on this earth to tell him how pretty he is and to pet him and all dogs are put here to play with him. I have yet to see any aggression towards anything in him. If he is a good indication of what having an intact boy dog is about, I might not ever neuter again
Yep, this for me too. Trent's 4 years old and still intact, first one I've ever had (first dog, first male, first intact animal).
He does mark outside a lot, but if I just want to keep walking he won't insist on stopping to sniff and mark every single spot. Same goes for licking random spots that I'm assuming other dogs have peed on, although my neighbor's neutered male is much worse with this. That dog will pee, turn around, and then be like "oh! What is this? I must lick this pee spot that I've just discovered!". Trent only seems to do this at a couple of specific spots along our route, and is otherwise disinterested in pee spots.
We've never had a problem with him trying to mark indoors, except for once at Petsmart when he was younger and tried to pee over a mess another dog left.
Oh, and yeah there's the terrible smell. That's definitely a thing.
He IS a humper, but that's a problem he's had since he was 3 months old and I'm not sure neutering would help.
He's dog reactive as well, and the one dog that really sets him off like no other is a neighbor's intact 5 or 6 year old male Lab. I decided he must have an aversion to other intact males his size based on that one other dog, but sometime last year he met up with an intact 90 lb Pit Bull and was just fine with him. I know a lot of it is residual behavior from a really reactive phase he went through as an adolescent, and wish I managed him better then. Definitely could have prevented many of the issues.
He's been in the same vicinity as a few in heat females and didn't lose his mind, but we definitely did not get too close.
It also took him from this
to this
so I fully agree with this here^
This is an intact dog thing?? Oh man, maybe I do have a good reason to chop off his balls!
All I can say is thank god for Photoshop.
He does mark outside a lot, but if I just want to keep walking he won't insist on stopping to sniff and mark every single spot. Same goes for licking random spots that I'm assuming other dogs have peed on, although my neighbor's neutered male is much worse with this. That dog will pee, turn around, and then be like "oh! What is this? I must lick this pee spot that I've just discovered!". Trent only seems to do this at a couple of specific spots along our route, and is otherwise disinterested in pee spots.
We've never had a problem with him trying to mark indoors, except for once at Petsmart when he was younger and tried to pee over a mess another dog left.
Oh, and yeah there's the terrible smell. That's definitely a thing.
He IS a humper, but that's a problem he's had since he was 3 months old and I'm not sure neutering would help.
He's dog reactive as well, and the one dog that really sets him off like no other is a neighbor's intact 5 or 6 year old male Lab. I decided he must have an aversion to other intact males his size based on that one other dog, but sometime last year he met up with an intact 90 lb Pit Bull and was just fine with him. I know a lot of it is residual behavior from a really reactive phase he went through as an adolescent, and wish I managed him better then. Definitely could have prevented many of the issues.
He's been in the same vicinity as a few in heat females and didn't lose his mind, but we definitely did not get too close.
It also took him from this
to this
so I fully agree with this here^
This is an intact dog thing?? Oh man, maybe I do have a good reason to chop off his balls!
All I can say is thank god for Photoshop.
All of our dogs growing up were neutered males. And Hudson is being left intact until he gives me a reason to chop 'em off. I totally broke my rule of "No boys with balls in the house" but I guess I broke that for the husband too.
He does have to mark ALL. THE. THINGS. and when we are out and about on walks, excitement poo's, which quickly turn into loose excitement poo's. We were at a dog event a few weekends ago, and I knew we had to start wrapping things up by the solidity of Hudson's poo's.
He likes to taste pee and teeth chatter. Well, he likes to teeth chatter and I assume it's because he just tasted pee, but he has been a chatterer since the day we brought him home.
He does not hump. Occasionally he will hump other dogs, but it is usually because that dog was humping him first. He does not try to hump people, or blankets, or stuffed animals. I consider myself pretty lucky there. They tell me my sister's dog was a terrible humper before they neutered him (6-7 months old) but he stopped after he was neutered. I swear my mom hardly had this sentence out before I looked over and my sister's dog was humping Hudson, lol.
He did have a phase of marking on the kitchen chairs, but they are wood on hard wood so no biggie. We just kept him locked in the living room with us for a while. One day I caught him peeing on the chair while I was in the Kitchen and said, "Hudson, we don't pee on the chairs", so that was the end of that. Thank goodness for a dog that speaks English.
I can't really compare him to neutered siblings because I think everyone of them is still intact. I know the breeder suggests leaving them until at least 1 year old.
He likes to scratch with his back legs. At first I thought it was a 'covering poo' thing, but now he uses it to rev up before zoomies.
But mostly, he's just a dog, doing dog things. He's a big goober. He is goofier than my last dog, but I don't remember how goofy that dog was as a puppy. He thinks all people are put on this earth to tell him how pretty he is and to pet him and all dogs are put here to play with him. I have yet to see any aggression towards anything in him. If he is a good indication of what having an intact boy dog is about, I might not ever neuter again
In my experience neutering will help with some males.
Beau did not start being obnoxious until about 2-3. I don't think it's fair to really base if there's a problem on dogs that haven't hit maturity yet, personally. We put up with it and tried to train it out/manage it until he was 6. Once we realized he wasn't going to be bred we neutered him. He's always been really high strung and also a big humper. There was one point where it just wasn't going to work out though because he spent all his time wanting to mark. You could redirect him while you were watching him but the second you stopped, he'd go try to mark something. The only workable solution was a belly band and that was obnoxious because he peed on himself.
Neutering made the marking go away almost overnight.
And like I've said we've had quite a few intact males before him that were fine. He wasn't raised/trained any different from our well behaved intact dogs.
Beau did not start being obnoxious until about 2-3. I don't think it's fair to really base if there's a problem on dogs that haven't hit maturity yet, personally. We put up with it and tried to train it out/manage it until he was 6. Once we realized he wasn't going to be bred we neutered him. He's always been really high strung and also a big humper. There was one point where it just wasn't going to work out though because he spent all his time wanting to mark. You could redirect him while you were watching him but the second you stopped, he'd go try to mark something. The only workable solution was a belly band and that was obnoxious because he peed on himself.
Neutering made the marking go away almost overnight.
And like I've said we've had quite a few intact males before him that were fine. He wasn't raised/trained any different from our well behaved intact dogs.
I definitely agree that neutering can fix some issues, and that it will vary depending on the dog. There's really no guarantee - sometimes it will fix the issue and other times it will not. Every once in a while I wonder if neutering Trent will help with his sniffing/marking habits and also his attitude towards other dogs and people, but in the end none of it is ever a big enough issue that I'd actually consider it.
I was thinking that, too! Obviously not breed exclusive, but I feel like this is more typical of GSDs regardless of the status of their balls.
I mean, just on the German Shepherd forums I think every other picture includes a male with his lipstick hanging out. I remember this because when I first joined (this was pre-Trent) I kept seeing them and was always thinking "holy crow, WHAT is wrong with all these dogs????". As in, I seriously thought it was some disease prevalent among German Shepherd males that everyone just accepted :rofl1:
But then I also noticed all the Health/General Discussion threads that were asking "my dog's penis always sticks out...is this normal?". So yep, I guess it's a thing.
I was thinking that, too! Obviously not breed exclusive, but I feel like this is more typical of GSDs regardless of the status of their balls.
I mean, just on the German Shepherd forums I think every other picture includes a male with his lipstick hanging out. I remember this because when I first joined (this was pre-Trent) I kept seeing them and was always thinking "holy crow, WHAT is wrong with all these dogs????". As in, I seriously thought it was some disease prevalent among German Shepherd males that everyone just accepted :rofl1:
But then I also noticed all the Health/General Discussion threads that were asking "my dog's penis always sticks out...is this normal?". So yep, I guess it's a thing.
Yep, I agree. I just take exception to the notion that intact dogs are always exactly the same as neutered dogs and neutering doesn't affect behavior ever. It certainly does in some cases!
I know there have been several people on chaz alone that have had issues with their dogs marking that were solved by neutering. Maf and Smudge, me and Beau, Elegy and Steve...
Beau and Trey have been our only neutered males- the rest (Nard, Shack, Pete, JR) were intact with no problems. Trey was neutered at 2 and only for contractual reasons. He would have been fine being kept intact though I shudder at how difficult keeping weight would've been on him. He was always really underweight even after being neutered.
I know there have been several people on chaz alone that have had issues with their dogs marking that were solved by neutering. Maf and Smudge, me and Beau, Elegy and Steve...
Beau and Trey have been our only neutered males- the rest (Nard, Shack, Pete, JR) were intact with no problems. Trey was neutered at 2 and only for contractual reasons. He would have been fine being kept intact though I shudder at how difficult keeping weight would've been on him. He was always really underweight even after being neutered.
Frag was kept intact until he was 2. The only change I noticed other than the lack of testicles, was that he wanted to play with other dogs more, other males hated him more, and he started humping other dogs. Which are all negatives to me, so I'm sad I did it. He never marked, never showed dog aggression, etc. He was (is) the temperament test dog at the dog park where I work and never had a problem with a dog. He had much better attention and obedience while he was intact.
He had some aggression issues in his younger years with people, but that was attributed to adolescence, health issues, and weak nerves. He is now fine and has his CGC and is all but bombproof, yet that did not occur with the result of neutering... it came about a year later.
Recon is still intact, he's almost a year old. No marking, humps other dogs a little, perfect attention, perfect recall. I wish I didn't have to neuter him.
I only had Sir intact for a week before he was neutered, but I didn't see a difference before/after. lol Still marks outside and inside new strange places occasionally, still humps, still is crazy and energetic with no attention span.
He had some aggression issues in his younger years with people, but that was attributed to adolescence, health issues, and weak nerves. He is now fine and has his CGC and is all but bombproof, yet that did not occur with the result of neutering... it came about a year later.
Recon is still intact, he's almost a year old. No marking, humps other dogs a little, perfect attention, perfect recall. I wish I didn't have to neuter him.
I only had Sir intact for a week before he was neutered, but I didn't see a difference before/after. lol Still marks outside and inside new strange places occasionally, still humps, still is crazy and energetic with no attention span.
Wah ha ha, thank God for dogs with fur!
Kota was neutered after my sister adopted him, he was probably five or six at the time - he had major skin issues once and the vet shaved him. During the no-hair phase HOLY RED ROCKET KOTA. ALL THE TIME. Embarrassing. But realistically he probably was ALWAYS like that and we just never saw it because of all the coat.
YAY COAT
Kota was neutered after my sister adopted him, he was probably five or six at the time - he had major skin issues once and the vet shaved him. During the no-hair phase HOLY RED ROCKET KOTA. ALL THE TIME. Embarrassing. But realistically he probably was ALWAYS like that and we just never saw it because of all the coat.
YAY COAT
Ivan is 8 and currently intact, with the plans to neuter him this summer. And I don't expect neutering him is going to change who he is. I expect he will still be the same jerkface he is now. If he changes that would be great but I'm not going to hold my breath. He might mark a little less outside. I don't expect the humping to stop. Hes currently not dog aggressive, just dog insecure. And he has no polite dog greeting.
I was wondering this, as Fred is only 10.5 months and I know he's older than merlin!!
And no.... I've spent most days measuring Fred as he creeps closer and closer to max height for the standard!!!!!! He's a beast, but JUST under so we are all good as long as he doesn't grow any more!!!!! Which he shouldn't, he looks more proportioned now!! He's so heavy though, when I saw how heavy people's dogs were for their height I thought he was heavy... Not sure why, we've actually just upped his food as he's looking a bit skinny!!!
And no.... I've spent most days measuring Fred as he creeps closer and closer to max height for the standard!!!!!! He's a beast, but JUST under so we are all good as long as he doesn't grow any more!!!!! Which he shouldn't, he looks more proportioned now!! He's so heavy though, when I saw how heavy people's dogs were for their height I thought he was heavy... Not sure why, we've actually just upped his food as he's looking a bit skinny!!!
Newton is my first intact male, and I haven't really noticed any differences between him and altered males of the same breed. He doesn't mark - at all - I've seen him lift his leg only once, when Journey was in standing heat. He can be a humper - he humps Cricket and Journey and recently has been trying to hump the cat, but I haven't seen him try this with strange dogs. His spayed female littermate is also a humper though, so I'm not sure it's an intact male thing. He also doesn't ever flash me, so maybe that's a breed thing more than anything else.
He does put on muscle very quickly and is easy to keep in shape - if you feel his hindquarters they are rock hard.
He is going through a bit of a jerky teenager phase - he's been bossy and very physical when playing with the other dogs; however I think he's growing out of this. I've never seen any kind of aggressive or reactive behavior with him though, even with other intact males.
He does put on muscle very quickly and is easy to keep in shape - if you feel his hindquarters they are rock hard.
He is going through a bit of a jerky teenager phase - he's been bossy and very physical when playing with the other dogs; however I think he's growing out of this. I've never seen any kind of aggressive or reactive behavior with him though, even with other intact males.