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You: hey
Stranger: hi
You: how are you?
Stranger: not bad you?
You: pretty good
Stranger: same here
Stranger: where you from?
You: canada
You: you?
Stranger: the north pole, and god **** is it cold
You: not according to al gore
Stranger: youve been naughty this year ya know
You: very
You: its ok
Stranger: why such the change, you used to be such a good kid
You: I'm of no religion really
You: you can skip my house
You: Well, thats fine I realize that good is relative
Stranger: yeah but if i do, i wont get cookies, i have to keep my weight up you know
You: your list of good and bad makes no sense philosophically
Stranger: how am i gonna feed my fat ass unless i go to all the houses?
You: you can still go to the houses that believe in you.
Stranger: but what if i like your cookies better
Stranger: alot dont get the good ones you know
You: I do have good cookies
You: I admit
You: well, if you want to drop by for some cookies. I'm ok with that
You: but I still want to be on the naughty list. k?
Stranger: why is that?
You: Well, from a realistic standpoint, the ones on the naughty list have more fun. I'll keep doing the fun things that you consider bad
Stranger: what if what you deem naughty i deem good?
You: there is no naughty/nice
You: only legal/illegal
Stranger: you dont think i like mowing down peoples tv antennas, satalites, and nomming on their cookies after breaking and entering?
Stranger: I mean what other guy can legally break and enter, eat their food, destroy stuff, and get off scott free over 6 billion times?
You: Only an imaginary one
Stranger: im not imaginary, im talking to you right now
You: anyone else would get their ass stuck in the chimney
Stranger: im magic
You: well, I am interacting with something true
You: I have no reason to think that the entity on the other end of this convo is a North Pole dweller, bent on giving **** away for a few bites of cookies
You: You could be an AI automated response system
Stranger: thats not true
You: fairly sophisticated one really
Stranger: well thank you, but im not a computer
Stranger: im santa
You: so you say.
Stranger: how can you be sure im not?
You: I can't
You: but neither can I be sure you are
Stranger: well you know 10 million dollars exists right?
Stranger: just because you havent seen it doesnt mean its not there you know
You: Really, I can't be 100% sure of anything that sensory input tells me
Stranger: true but where does that end and true belief begin
You: It ends in solipsism
Stranger: how do you figure?
You: the only thing that exists is my intellect
Stranger: what about others intellects?
You: I rely on no other sensory input
You: I can only experience others intellects through sensory input
You: But my intellect needs the brain to function.....so even that is ****ed
Stranger: yes but similar experiences by other people may match what you know to be true by your intellect so does that mean that their experience isnt real?
You: Not to me it isn't
Stranger: but you had the same experience
You: yes, and mine would be the only real experience
Stranger: to you
Stranger: but not to them
You: to them my experiences would be un-knowable
Stranger: how do we know YOU arent the hallucination?
You: I could very well be
You: I have no way to prove to you that I'm not
Stranger: so wouldnt that make you sensory input?
You: To you, yes.
Stranger: so if both of us were sensory input to the other and talking about it and discussing it and experiencing the same thing wouldnt that make us both real and everyone else the sensory input?
You: No, it doesn't matter where the input comes from. It's a matter of it being input, that is interpreted by the brain (which is easily tricked)
You: The intellect arrives at ideas independantly of sensory input
You: You on the other end of this convo, are very likely a real person. BUT, I cannot prove that. That is my point
Stranger: Dude you're a mind**** lol
Stranger: hi
You: how are you?
Stranger: not bad you?
You: pretty good
Stranger: same here
Stranger: where you from?
You: canada
You: you?
Stranger: the north pole, and god **** is it cold
You: not according to al gore
Stranger: youve been naughty this year ya know
You: very
You: its ok
Stranger: why such the change, you used to be such a good kid
You: I'm of no religion really
You: you can skip my house
You: Well, thats fine I realize that good is relative
Stranger: yeah but if i do, i wont get cookies, i have to keep my weight up you know
You: your list of good and bad makes no sense philosophically
Stranger: how am i gonna feed my fat ass unless i go to all the houses?
You: you can still go to the houses that believe in you.
Stranger: but what if i like your cookies better
Stranger: alot dont get the good ones you know
You: I do have good cookies
You: I admit
You: well, if you want to drop by for some cookies. I'm ok with that
You: but I still want to be on the naughty list. k?
Stranger: why is that?
You: Well, from a realistic standpoint, the ones on the naughty list have more fun. I'll keep doing the fun things that you consider bad
Stranger: what if what you deem naughty i deem good?
You: there is no naughty/nice
You: only legal/illegal
Stranger: you dont think i like mowing down peoples tv antennas, satalites, and nomming on their cookies after breaking and entering?
Stranger: I mean what other guy can legally break and enter, eat their food, destroy stuff, and get off scott free over 6 billion times?
You: Only an imaginary one
Stranger: im not imaginary, im talking to you right now
You: anyone else would get their ass stuck in the chimney
Stranger: im magic
You: well, I am interacting with something true
You: I have no reason to think that the entity on the other end of this convo is a North Pole dweller, bent on giving **** away for a few bites of cookies
You: You could be an AI automated response system
Stranger: thats not true
You: fairly sophisticated one really
Stranger: well thank you, but im not a computer
Stranger: im santa
You: so you say.
Stranger: how can you be sure im not?
You: I can't
You: but neither can I be sure you are
Stranger: well you know 10 million dollars exists right?
Stranger: just because you havent seen it doesnt mean its not there you know
You: Really, I can't be 100% sure of anything that sensory input tells me
Stranger: true but where does that end and true belief begin
You: It ends in solipsism
Stranger: how do you figure?
You: the only thing that exists is my intellect
Stranger: what about others intellects?
You: I rely on no other sensory input
You: I can only experience others intellects through sensory input
You: But my intellect needs the brain to function.....so even that is ****ed
Stranger: yes but similar experiences by other people may match what you know to be true by your intellect so does that mean that their experience isnt real?
You: Not to me it isn't
Stranger: but you had the same experience
You: yes, and mine would be the only real experience
Stranger: to you
Stranger: but not to them
You: to them my experiences would be un-knowable
Stranger: how do we know YOU arent the hallucination?
You: I could very well be
You: I have no way to prove to you that I'm not
Stranger: so wouldnt that make you sensory input?
You: To you, yes.
Stranger: so if both of us were sensory input to the other and talking about it and discussing it and experiencing the same thing wouldnt that make us both real and everyone else the sensory input?
You: No, it doesn't matter where the input comes from. It's a matter of it being input, that is interpreted by the brain (which is easily tricked)
You: The intellect arrives at ideas independantly of sensory input
You: You on the other end of this convo, are very likely a real person. BUT, I cannot prove that. That is my point
Stranger: Dude you're a mind**** lol