"I Hate Labs"

nikkiluvsu15

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I get it all the time. Someone told me that Harleigh was "the ugliest dog they had ever seen and that she looked dumb":eek: She is the smartest dog I've ever owned and learns everything extremely quick.

She's so sweet and wants nothing more than a few pets. She is a bit energetic, but what do you expect from a young Lab? ;) She has the BEST temperament too.

Sure there are certain breeds that I'm not crazy about, but I would never say that to anyone. That is just plain rude! I can't believe it... Ugh.
 

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No one ever brought their lab puppy into be trained when they were only a few months old. THey waited until they were a year or more and had never seen a leash or thought one was what they were suppose to pull their owners about with.. I did at least 5 dogs a day for obedience and then a hunting test was set up and the starter dogs were worked there. They don't pay attention to water even if they are fighting. WE had a metal pole every third run that I never had to use because I am anal about checking locks on gates, but I was glad they were there if I ever did need one. I blame the owners, not the dogs. I hear you, an untrained lab is a pia.
Ugh... the leash thing bothers me. And because Labs love to play and use their mouth, they just think a leash is a toy that they can play with while you're trying to walk them. My friend's Lab, Bubba, is almost 2 years old; they never ever have taught him one command; they expect him to just magically "mature" on his own and teach himself obedience. They don't believe a word that I say. When they board him at the hotel, it's literally a fiasco getting him from his room to a playroom. He's jumping 4 feet in the air with the slip lead in his mouth, accidentally biting our hands, and just spazzing. He acts like a 4 month old puppy. It makes me sad because he could be a really neat dog.

As far as Border Collies being popular... I really don't see many here. We've had probably 15 that I remember in total come to the hotel. All of them but one are very shy and skittish, and obsessive, and can't be around any other dogs except for tiny dogs. :( It is depressing, because I CRINGE when I see a BC who has no nerve or confidence at all, and that's mostly all I see. But I don't meet many. I almost never see BCs at the dog park or dog events. I do meet quite a few in Flyball/Agility/Rallyo, but most of them are good dogs. Luckily, they haven't gotten too popular here. We have lots of Pit Bulls, designer mixes, little dogs, and basically the top AKC breeds. I don't meet that many herding dogs. It must be Texas! I do notice lots of BCs when I visit.
 

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I used to not be a fan of labs, mainly because they were so popular.

Now I am pretty sure that my next dog is going to be a lab. After working with all of Frodo's issues I want a dog with high energy, low chance of aggression/reactivity. I am not at all opposed to putting a lot of training into a dog (in fact, I enjoy it!), and I realize that getting a lab isn't automatically getting perfection. But I want a dog that I can take places and do things with, and while Frodo is getting there, he's never going to be a dog that doesn't need management or that I can just hand the leash to anyone.

Now if I could just be banned from the lab rescue sites for the next few years :p
 

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I get it all the time. Someone told me that Harleigh was "the ugliest dog they had ever seen and that she looked dumb":eek: She is the smartest dog I've ever owned and learns everything extremely quick.

She's so sweet and wants nothing more than a few pets. She is a bit energetic, but what do you expect from a young Lab? ;) She has the BEST temperament too.

Sure there are certain breeds that I'm not crazy about, but I would never say that to anyone. That is just plain rude! I can't believe it... Ugh.
Wow! Does this person have eyes? I'm not even a "lab person" just because I like more fancy looks or whatever, but I still find all dogs beautiful and would think my own lab was the absolute cutest thing ever if I had one. actually, I do find chocolate labs pups to be some of the more stunning puppies. Their eyes with the coat color really strike me as pretty
 

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If I had had Virgo from a pup, I think she could have been one of the most awesome dogs out there.

Most of my dislike of Labs comes from working in a busy boarding resort where a good 30% of the dogs we got in were Labs or Lab mixes. Another huge percentage were Goldens/mixes and I had a fairly low opinion of them as well. I've since met a few well-bred examples and changed my mind, though I don't think they'll ever be a breed I go looking to own.
 

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I think hating an entire breed is just silly..

there are plenty of dogs I don't think are attractive.
and plenty of dogs who have certain traits that are COMMON that I dont like

but to say that I HATE ALL LABS, is such a blanket statement. Im sure that lady could find ONE lab that she likes

I have individual dogs that I dont like. but for that I would say "I hate berny, that loud mouth beagle next door who barks all night and is always escaping into our yard and pestering our cats"
 

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I get it all the time. Someone told me that Harleigh was "the ugliest dog they had ever seen and that she looked dumb":eek:
Answer in kind: "Well, I think you're pretty ugly, but I was too polite to mention it."

And Harleigh is absolutely beautiful.
 

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Answer in kind: "Well, I think you're pretty ugly, but I was too polite to mention it."

And Harleigh is absolutely beautiful.
LOL yup sounds like a reasonable repsonse to me ;).

And I agree I think Harleigh is beautiful. I LOVE her pictures.
 

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I get it all the time. Someone told me that Harleigh was "the ugliest dog they had ever seen and that she looked dumb":eek: She is the smartest dog I've ever owned and learns everything extremely quick.
You're kidding!! :eek:

Let's admit it, I'm not really a Labrador person. Mainly from bad experiences... had two of the neighbor's Labs literally knock me down on the middle of the street with an approaching car, and it tore the skin right off my entire upper arm. Then had a total of four Labs in the neighborhood (including those two) snarl and snap and lunge for Trent in an obviously unfriendly, threatening manner on several occasions with the owners barely bothering to control the dogs. Thank goodness for solid nerves on Trent's part - it scared the daylights out of me.

But with such a popular breed, you're going to have a load of backyard breeders catering to the fad, and a lot of irresponsible owners who don't know how to handle and train a dog, much less an energetic, exuberant Labrador Retriever. And that's the cause of a lot of problems. I would never hate a breed, and wouldn't even say I dislike Labs. I dislike individual dogs for good reasons. I dislike the Maltese that took a good chomp out of my arm out of the blue, but adore my friend's Maltese boy.

There are a lot of things out there about German Shepherds. Granted, I have not yet had the misfortune of ever hearing someone tell me they dislike German Shepherds, or "hate them", but I can't even count the number of times I hear "German Shepherds are aggressive, and dangerous to have around" "German Shepherds are evil" "Your dog is going to eat me" "Your dog is going to eat you" "German Shepherds are shy and fearful"... it never ends.

By the way, Nikki, I think Harleigh is a GORGEOUS girl and anyone who can see your signature can see the sweet inquisitive look on her intelligent face. I'm not much of a Lab person, but I'm a Harleigh person and will take that "ugly" dog off your hands anytime!!
 

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Equinox, most of the people I work with at a pet hotel DESPISE German Shepherds. Because... 99% of the dogs we get are nervy, neurotic, and depressingly shy and flighty. Plus, most of them are very unsocialized and bark/diarrhea everywhere non-stop. It's sad! Some of my co-workers even refuse to handle the dogs. I'm the only person who can walk/work with several GSDs that we get, because I know how smart and sensitive they are and how cowardly poorly bred GSDs are. We do get one well bred working GSD who is one of my favorite dogs ever, and doesn't even seem like the same breed as all of the hock-walkers that we see. :(
 

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Just wanted to throw out there. I used to be afraid of Labs because I was attacked by purebred Labs on two different occasions. I honestly thought all Labs were wack jobs after that. I blamed bybs not the breed its self I was just afraid.

And then skin and bones sick little Sawyer came into my life. And no matter what my past experience was I wasent going to turn my back on him. I remember my dad who had a negative outlook on the breed (because of my attacks) said he would grow up and "bite me in the neck like that other Lab did". I remember I was automatically offended and defensive. And thats when I realized my feelings about the breed were taking a major turn.

It is ironic because in the situations I was attacked by a black Lab, and a yellow Lab (two seperate occasions).

And now here I am with a yellow Lab and a black Lab mix.
 

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Equinox, most of the people I work with at a pet hotel DESPISE German Shepherds. Because... 99% of the dogs we get are nervy, neurotic, and depressingly shy and flighty. Plus, most of them are very unsocialized and bark/diarrhea everywhere non-stop. It's sad! Some of my co-workers even refuse to handle the dogs. I'm the only person who can walk/work with several GSDs that we get, because I know how smart and sensitive they are and how cowardly poorly bred GSDs are. We do get one well bred working GSD who is one of my favorite dogs ever, and doesn't even seem like the same breed as all of the hock-walkers that we see. :(
I consider myself one of those lucky people who have never had a bad experience with a German Shepherd, or met one with a flighty or overaggressive or fearful temperament. It's very lucky because I know there are too many out there, and had I met them, I may very well have been completely turned away from the breed.

Nervy, reactive, neurotic, fearful dogs with a sensitive stomach and poor hips... so many things are wrong and disturbing about what I've always known as an aloof, stable, even tempered breed with impressive working ability. You're completely right, it's often hard to believe that dogs among the same breed can be so different. But that's what backyard breeders and irresponsibility does to each of our breeds. Labrador Retrievers, German Shepherds, Doberman Pinschers, Dalmatians, Cocker Spaniels, Chihuahuas, etc.

I have had people approach me with my dog, and with no knowledge of the different lines and types of German Shepherd that exist, ask me, "Is he a German Shepherd? What kind of German Shepherd?" because he is different from what people are used to seeing.

Just wanted to throw out there. I used to be afraid of Labs because I was attacked by purebred Labs on two different occasions. I honestly thought all Labs were wack jobs after that. I blamed bybs not the breed its self I was just afraid.

And then skin and bones sick little Sawyer came into my life. And no matter what my past experience was I wasent going to turn my back on him. I remember my dad who had a negative outlook on the breed (because of my attacks) said he would grow up and "bite me in the neck like that other Lab did". I remember I was automatically offended and defensive. And thats when I realized my feelings about the breed were taking a major turn.

It is ironic because in the situations I was attacked by a black Lab, and a yellow Lab (two seperate occasions).

And now here I am with a yellow Lab and a black Lab mix.
Oh, I most definitely don't believe Labs to be "wack jobs". I think they are lovely dogs (especially the field bred Labs) with a temperament well suited to family life. I do think my neighbor's Labs are rather wacko, admittedly, but have never been afraid of Labs. It was the situation and the dogs in the situation that tick me off, but I don't apply that to the general breed. If I see one down the street or walking up to me, I wouldn't have a reaction. No "holy crow, it's a Lab! Uh-oh!", but no "Oh man, a Lab!! I'll have to go talk to the owner about his breeder, what a good looking, well conditioned dog", like I would with some German Shepherd owners.

I remember the bad experiences I've had, and know they affected me negatively, but I definitely don't judge a dog by its breed, nor do I fear the breed in general. I simply have had negative associations with individuals of the breed and know I wouldn't care to own one. But would I foster a Lab for a rescue? I'd love to! Would I skip all the dogs marked "Labrador Retriever" or "Lab mix" at the shelter when I want to adopt a dog? Not at all. I just wouldn't ever say "I'm looking for a Lab mix" or "Recommend me Lab breeders, I would like to own one".
 

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