Daycare in high schools

[eddieq]

I'm fine with the daycare being in the school. It shouldn't be free, though. There should be real costs associated with it that the tax payers don't have to supplement. Perhaps some sort of "sweat equity" program where each mom with a child in the daycare has to spend 1 or 2 days a week working in the day care facility (while still keeping up with their regular studies). Sounds like something similar to what DC talked about where that work goes toward either a certificate for a real job in the field or course credit towards graduation at least. If nothing else, the life skills they'd learn would be invaluable.

Taking money from sports programs to pay for daycare can be ultimately self-defeating, as you'll gut the sports programs and then what do the kids do in their free time? Make babies, perhaps? Besides, many times, sports program money is there only for the sports programs. If it's not used for sports, it's not available. In my area, they have this goofy county, state and federal land usage thing going on ("Open Space") where you can designate land for use as athletic fields or something like that and you get money for the program. You couldn't divert that money to anything but athletics.

 

[release the hounds]

I voted No, but could vote yes with some stipulations.

it's an absolute NO if tax payer money is going to that sort of thing. Sorry, but I pay enough in social programs that help people make it through, and even support enough other people that really don't give a **** about anything.

My parent's had me in high school and had a very tough beginning because of it. They're still paying off stuff they accumulated from that time, but they did it, took responsibility for their actions and worked hard. I think the same should go for anyone. So school is tough when you have a child, well maybe some different choices could have helped that a bit.

if the daycares were done and staffed and funded by those mothers and FATHERS i'd be fine with it. I think it would be great.

as for the money given to sports why not daycare? I don't really see a correlation. Sports teach kids lots, they bring schools together, they bring communities together. They teach discipline, teamwork, and provide for a lot of social structure. and sports have been a major part of almost every civilized society since the keeping of historical records. I think it would a little short sighted to say they aren't important. Plus they bring in a lot of money to schools and communities as well. A very high percentage of teen mothers end up on state aid, I don't think daycare in high school will change that.

 

[eddieq]

if the daycares were done and staffed and funded by those mothers and FATHERS i'd be fine with it. I think it would be great.

I should have been more specific above - my "sweat equity" idea should apply to the fathers as well. There is more to being a father than sticking your dick in a willing girl (sorry for being crude here). If you're want to dance, you better be ready to pay the band. Most of these kids (boys and girls) don't see the big picture at all, either through willful ignorance or simply being naive.

 

[darkchild16]

There is more to being a father than sticking your dick in a willing girl (sorry for being crude here).

:hail::hail::hail: Some of the best fathers didnt participate in that part of the child and love the child more then the one who did thank god.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

I voted No, but could vote yes with some stipulations.

it's an absolute NO if tax payer money is going to that sort of thing. Sorry, but I pay enough in social programs that help people make it through, and even support enough other people that really don't give a **** about anything.

My parent's had me in high school and had a very tough beginning because of it. They're still paying off stuff they accumulated from that time, but they did it, took responsibility for their actions and worked hard. I think the same should go for anyone. So school is tough when you have a child, well maybe some different choices could have helped that a bit.

if the daycares were done and staffed and funded by those mothers and FATHERS i'd be fine with it. I think it would be great.

as for the money given to sports why not daycare? I don't really see a correlation. Sports teach kids lots, they bring schools together, they bring communities together. They teach discipline, teamwork, and provide for a lot of social structure. and sports have been a major part of almost every civilized society since the keeping of historical records. I think it would a little short sighted to say they aren't important. Plus they bring in a lot of money to schools and communities as well. A very high percentage of teen mothers end up on state aid, I don't think daycare in high school will change that.

I agree with this. If it *had* to be, I like Breeze's high school set up and I agree that both mother and father should have to contribute to the program, but I am NOT for putting more of our tax dollars to pay for the irresponsibility of teens. The thought just irks me.

 

[SarahFair]

I just look at it as this...
If it was my son or daughter I would want them to be able to finish high school (cause I would only be 33 years old when beau is 18 so I wouldnt be retired). I wouldnt be able to quit my job and watch my grandchild all day. I probly wouldnt be able to afford 200 - 300 a week ( I cant do that now!!!) to put the baby in daycare.

I would rather pay a few extra in taxes and see these girls graduate than to see them ending up god knows where!! I am in a very lucky situation. I have made it work...but what about the girls who cant???
What about the girl who got knocked up by the star quarter back of the football team but he wont even take a second look at her cause now shes pregnant and having to quit school. What about him!?!?
I think he should be A) Kicked off the football team (you dont want the sports money going towards the day care, yet the football players or whoever are knocking the girls up and causing the problmes!) B) Have to go to the special school the mother is sent off to

I dont see anything wrong with the parents having to pay something like $25 - $50 a week for the childcare in school. That means the MOTHER and teh FATHER.

But thats JMO

 

[FoxyWench]

do i think its a good idea to have them? YES
do i think it shoudl be free to those tten mothers and the costs of such program comming out of the towns tax payers money?! HELL NO

im 23 yrs old, i pay taxes...why should more of my hard earned money go to giving girls ,who, in Many cases were simply stupid, a free ride through those early years of life.

i agree that the teen mothers and fathers should have to do SOMETHING to "pay" for the child care, volunteer in the nursery a couple days a week, pay $50.00 a week...something...

we had one girl in highschool that had a kid at 15...everyone asked her how shes was going to do it...
"oh its easy...my moms gonna look after the kid" she was right grammy to the rescue...then when asked by other girls how hard it was to raise a kid shes reply, "oh its easy, those idiots dont know what there talking about, everyone helps you out cause you have a baby and you get free stuff" she ended up pregnant with a second and soon after we had a sudden rash of her friends getting pregnant because despite sex ed...its true...theres too many hand outs for girls like this...and when youve got a loving family its often TOO easy to have a baby and not ever take real responsibility for it...

rape and sexual abuse victims that didnt make a consious choice to go out and have unprotected sex (or get pregnant on purpose as is some of the cases) would be a different matter.


Edit to add...

it takes 2 to tango!

if she opens her legs for the star quarterback without precaustion...well...its not an uneducated desicion and she has to accept that the possibility and HIGH likelyhood is there...
make him use protection or keep your legs closed...pretty simple concept...
heck im allergic to latex so i found alternate methods of protection...its NOT hard to do, its not hard to get hold of and its relitivly cheap compared...

do i think the father should be responsible for the life he creates, YES i do...btu the reality is...why should she get a free ride form local taxpayers for making the STUPID desicion of opening her legs...
2 people to make a baby...
BOTH need to take responsibility...but remember, she woudlnt be in that state if shed used the nessicary precautions (and pulling out isnt one of them)

 

[Durbkat]

I think its good because if no one is going to be home then that means the mom's, if they have a job, would have to pay for a baby sitter if no one was going to be home. My high school has a day care for the students who have kids and for regular people to drop their kids off. They allow the people taking the childhood class, or whatever its called, to learn how to take care of kids.

 

[SarahFair]

That girls stupid.
LOL
sorry but its not easy. You really have no life after a baby. I wouldnt trade them for the world but I wish I woulda waited.

"oh its easy...my moms gonna look after the kid"

Ya thats what my friend said when I asked what she was going to do about collage..She had this big ol dream of Oh la de da...Its going to be so easy..collage..mom takes care of the baby...
NOT
Shes still living at home with mommy and her dead beat boyfriend. No school in her future..

 

[Dizzy]

We're going to have to pay for these kids one way or another, unless those girls have some AMAZING support from home.

Either:

A) they have to get a job to pay for childcare. Never get qualifications and end up on a low income and need extra support towards childcare/expenses.

B) finish education and use a subsidised childcare.

If you look at the overall cost, I bet it's cheaper to subsidise child care and get those girls a good education and a decent job than it is for them to be borderline broke their whole lives.

I have a friend who had her girl when she was young. She is now going through uni, working her ARSE off, married, has a mortgage etc etc - there is NO way she could do that if she was not offered subsidised child care. No way at all.

But in the long run, she'll be a qualified professional when she finishes and will pay INTO the system that helped her.

 

[LoveMyKees]

Our high school has a daycare program, but its for the students in Child Ed to actually be able to work with the kids and apply what they have learned in that class.

 

[FoxyWench]

kees those programs are great, the parents pay for the childcare at a huge discount (yet still enough to properly fund the program) and the students get hands on experience in their feild of study! that im all for in a huge way!

I woudl ave no issue offering that to teen moms again, assuming they contribute either financially or with volunteered time...but it should NOT be free...

and the problem with that girl...is she WAS right...
her mother did everything...she never paid her mother for the childs care...and she not only got to go through highschool but she also whent out partying every night... getting runk ect...and her mother LET her...
if that was my mother forget it...shed put a roof over my head if i needed it and food if i was starving....but the only way shed look after any kid of mine is if its being PAID for...

the sad part is, we had 7 pregnant girls in our graduating class...and not one of them has had to realy life a finger with their kids...
guess thats a bonus of living in Preppy rich people central...

 

[~Jessie~]

My answer is yes and no...

I think that if the girls have to volunteer for it and raise money for it themselves, then it should be allowed.

I don't think that it should be funded by taxpayers, though.

There was a girl in my 8th grade class who was pregnant with baby number THREE. Her mom loved taking care of her kids, and encouraged her to have them. I was shocked when this pregnant 12 year old sat down next to me in my 7th grade pre algebra class and told me she was having baby number 2 soon :yikes:

 

[release the hounds]

Every mother I graduated with finished school, and about half went on to at least a tech school and have made it. Yes they had help from family, but it wasn't easy. NOBODY on our football team was a father before graduating, almost all of them were students not involved in anything. These stereotypes do nothing

 

[SarahFair]

I was shocked when this pregnant 12 year old sat down next to me in my 7th grade pre algebra class and told me she was having baby number 2 soon

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!

NOBODY on our football team was a father before graduating, almost all of them were students not involved in anything. These stereotypes do nothing

Well not at my school...
But Im saying if they are the fathers...

 

[~Jessie~]

Yeah, it was really sad. All of her babies had different fathers... she was with older guys outside of our middle school.

I would love to know what happened to her after 8th grade... I moved across country that summer, so I have no idea.

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

I would rather a girl stay in school and get her high school diploma then worry about if it is encouraging or permissive or whatever. Too many have to drop out and then there they are.

I agree 100%. My sister is 27 just got her high school diploma and is now in medical school. If her high school had offered a daycare she could have stayed in high school all those years ago and wouldn't be going through all this now. Oh and yes I beleive it should be free.

 

[release the hounds]

I have a question for those that think it should be "free".

Since nothing is free, and in this case "free" would just mean, "us" paying for it

Why do you think it is right to make it as easy as possible for somebody to NOT have to pay for their actions? What purpose does it serve? will it keep them off state aid when they aren't in high school? When many others have made sacrafices and barely made it have done so, why should we be worried about making everything "easier" when they make decisions they aren't prepared to follow through on? Some people have done most of their growing up when faced with challenges, why make it easier? It's not impossible by any means to have a child and finish school

 

[zoe08]

I voted no, because I think if you are responsible enough to have a child, you should be responsible enough to find daycare for your child. When you go out in the real world there it is very unlikely that they will have free daycare for their children at their jobs. They probably won't even have any daycare at their jobs. In college they will not have free daycare for their children. And probably not daycare nextdoor to their classes either.

Personally I think they need to accept personal responsibility for their actions.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

I have a question for those that think it should be "free".

Since nothing is free, and in this case "free" would just mean, "us" paying for it

Why do you think it is right to make it as easy as possible for somebody to NOT have to pay for their actions? What purpose does it serve? will it keep them off state aid when they aren't in high school? When many others have made sacrafices and barely made it have done so, why should we be worried about making everything "easier" when they make decisions they aren't prepared to follow through on? Some people have done most of their growing up when faced with challenges, why make it easier? It's not impossible by any means to have a child and finish school

**applause**