Caylee Anthony found.

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Has anyone else been fallowing this case at all??

The body they found less than a mile from where she lived turned out to be Caylee Anthony. I am not surprised. I believe her mother IS guilty. EVERYTHING is pointing towards her. I cant believe her parents are defending her and claiming that she is innocent. Are you kidding me??

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28315643?GT1=43001

The mothers trunk tested positive that there was a dead body back there. Her trunk tested positive for chloroform. Her daughter was missing for a MONTH before it was reported to the police. She went out partying after her daughter came up missing. They searched a computer in the home and someone googled "chloroform", "Neck breaking", "missing children", and "household weapons". She lead the police on a wild goose chase.

If that is not enough evidence to send her to death row, then I dont know what is.
 

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I know I heard that earlier today :( that is so SO sad

I hope they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt who did it and nail them to the wall
 
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I haven't followed it closely but I've been waiting for an update. I saw on tv today when they announced the remains did belong to Caylee. It was too sad and I had to turn it off. Being a mom, I can't imagine killing your own child. You have to be sick and demented to even *think* about killing your kid.
 

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she will probably walk on an insanity plea like all the rest do. We had a woman here remove her babies arms and she did no jail time. I really get ticked off that somehow being crazy means you don't ALSO need to do jail time...'splain?
 
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I dont care if she is crazy or not, personally... she needs to pay for it (assuming it was her).

Whats disturbing is that while she was in jail, she was upset over not being able to get out. Concerned about herself and not really saying much about finding her daughter. Self centered. Getting out of jail would be the last thing on my mind when my daughter has been missing for over a month. She was even complaining about how the food is awful in there. HELLO!!!! What about your DAUGHTER??
 

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I've been on top of it all along . I think that today cinched the case . So sad !
 

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I'm still waiting for them to say they've changed their minds and are pursuing the death penalty now that there's a body. I CANNOT believe they wouldn't... crazy.
 

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Its horrible-She was such a cute little girl.

I bet mom did do it. I also don't think she cares so we won't see the guilt we all want to.

And from her moms first phone call to police she knows her daughter did it. She is just trying to hold onto what she has now. She may change her mind. Give her time. She is in a crappy spot. I don't want to say anyones kids will be killers but if they were you might stand by them.

Another thing is this girl seems like she has been mentally screwed for a while. Multiple diffrent personality disorders. She has her parents around her finger. Its an illness of the family at this point.
 

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I don't think the insanity plea will work. Even if there is some mental illness involved, the fact that she attempted to cover it up and has denied doing the crime shows that, (if she is the murderer) that she has enough understanding of right and wrong to know that it was wrong. Usually that is how it works out anyway. And the internet searches and cause of death on the autopsy should prove that it was totally premeditated.

Anyway, if she did do it (and I think she did) I hope she rots. That poor baby.
 

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Poor little girl. :(

I'd be amazed and shocked if it wasn't the mother. It's usually the parents' even in cases where they aren't acting horrendously guilty--let alone not reporting a child's disappearance for a MONTH and then trying to blame a babysitter she never actually met.

I think that's what ticks me off the most. Bad enough to kill your own little child . . . but then trying to send SOMEONE ELSE to jail for it??

If she didn't want the kid, couldn't she have just put her up for adoption or something? Plenty of people would love to adopt a sweet little girl.
 

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in my opinion, if she didn't want her child she could have left Caylee with her grandparents. They have been nothing but supportive of her and were already helping to raise Caylee. I think the death penalty should be on the table in any case where someone is murdered b/c they are "inconvenient".
 

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she will probably walk on an insanity plea like all the rest do. We had a woman here remove her babies arms and she did no jail time. I really get ticked off that somehow being crazy means you don't ALSO need to do jail time...'splain?
That's why I HATE the "Not Guilty by reason of insanity" judgement. Yes, you are insane. But you are still guilty! It needs to be changed to "Guilty by reason of insanity"..........and they should still fry. :mad:
 

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in my opinion, if she didn't want her child she could have left Caylee with her grandparents. They have been nothing but supportive of her and were already helping to raise Caylee. I think the death penalty should be on the table in any case where someone is murdered b/c they are "inconvenient".

From what I understand by following the case, she did NOT want Caylee and in fact wanted to put her up for adoption. But her parents wouldn't allow it and they were/are literally forcing her to be a "mom" to that poor little girl.

I wouldn't say they are to blame by any means, but they sure as hell didn't help the situation.
 
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From what I understand by following the case, she did NOT want Caylee and in fact wanted to put her up for adoption. But her parents wouldn't allow it and they were/are literally forcing her to be a "mom" to that poor little girl.

I wouldn't say they are to blame by any means, but they sure as hell didn't help the situation.
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Hadn't heard that part of the story. I was paying attention to the updates basically, but my eldest sister was following the story closely so she no doubt heard that part as well. As it started to become clear what happened (which was even before they found the little girl's body) my thought was the same as Boemy's: "WHY didn't she just put her up for adoption if she didn't want her?!? WHY did she have to kill her?!?"

I don't blame the child's grandparents either ... but talk about denial!! I guess nobody ever wants to believe their kid is a potential murderer. They still don't want to believe she did it ... they're backing up her lies.
 
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I think it is awful.

I think the mother and/or her BF(s) are guilty.

However, I am very glad I live in a country where the fact of presumed innocence is still supposed to exist. Casey Anthony is as entitled as anyone else to a fair trial by an impartial jury of her peers.

I expect tho, if it were one's own child who was being accused, most parents would defend and stand by her until that was no longer possible.
 

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No less than 3 child killing mothers have copped insanity and walked here within the last 10 years or so...I am thinking it must be easier here in Texas then?

It is gender bias, IMO plain and simple...a man accused of something like this even with his own kid would be given the D....here? They don't like to put women away who the heck knows why?
 

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From what I understand by following the case, she did NOT want Caylee and in fact wanted to put her up for adoption. But her parents wouldn't allow it and they were/are literally forcing her to be a "mom" to that poor little girl.

I wouldn't say they are to blame by any means, but they sure as hell didn't help the situation.

Wow. What a dumb, dumb thing to do. I'm sure they didn't expect their daughter to kill their granddaughter--I mean, really, who would expect something like that--but even if that hadn't happened, where would that leave the little girl? Mmhm, nothing could be more delightful than being raised by someone who doesn't want you and sees you as a burden. A-yep.
 

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she will probably walk on an insanity plea like all the rest do. We had a woman here remove her babies arms and she did no jail time. I really get ticked off that somehow being crazy means you don't ALSO need to do jail time...'splain?
The insanity defense is legitimate. THere are people who really are crazy, in the legal sense: they don't know what they are doing is wrong. Or they think its "right" like they are saving their children from Hell, or that their friend is actually the Devil. I don't do criminal law, but I keep track of it. There are definately people out there, who by reason of mental illness, do not know what they are doing, or know what they are doing but are so far gone that they sincerely believe that its the right thing. Often these people are treatable.

That said, whatever is wrong with her, Caylee's mom is NOT legally insane. This was premediated, she tried to hide it, she constructed lies. My experience with real insanity cases is that they are generally not deeply premediated (such as the internet searches) and often the mother is perfectly willing to say what she did, and why. Sometimes she even calls the cops! Caylee's mom may be nuts, but she is not legally insane.

As for "getting off" believe me, you are often better off being convicted than being found insane. There are people who gamed the system, where found insane, and are now housed in asylums . . . and they are begging to go to jail instead. One, if you are found insane you are confined in an asylum until you are found sane. In many cases, this means forever. Two, you have a lot less autonomy and freedom in an asylum than in jail. Three, you actually have fewer rights in an asylum than jail, because you are presumed insane. Yes, some people found insane (particularly those who had a psychotic break) do walk fairly shortly afterwards . . . but many spend a long, long time confined somewhere much less "fun" than jail.

Ill give you an example of a classic insanity case. A woman in WV had several children. She had had mental problems before. Her husband was a monster . . .he beat her, publicly humiliated her, then abandoned her. She was very, very poor. THe only person looking after this poor soul was her aunt. Everyone knew she had problems. She became convinced that the Devil was after her, and her children. Finally, she locked her children in their room with the Bible and commanded them to pray. SHe was afraid the Devil was coming for them. SHe had a gun. She locked herself in a different room. She prayed. She saw a figure moving outside. She thought it was the Devil. She fired. And kiled her aunt. Once she realized what she had done, she immediatley called the police, and told them that she had killed her aunt who was possessed by the devil.

She was not proscuted at all. The police and the proscutor could find no motive, no reason why she woudl do this OTHER than her delusions. Her children were packed off to a relative, and she was sent to a mental hospital, where she turned out to have untreated paranoid schizophrenia aggrivated by extreme stress. Once she was medicated she changed completely, was very, very regretful, and was released. She had never harmed anyone since.

There is no point in punishing the genuinely insane. They didn't intend to do anything wrong. They will often, if treatable, never harm anyone again. Severe mental illness is extruciating, a horror in its own right. This is something I have seen personally . . . its awful. If they are not treatable, they need to be confined, but that's for everyone's safety, not to punish them. We don't generally unpunish people for accidents (overcriminalization aside) and we don't punish people who do not understand what they were doing, or thought they were doing something entirely different (shooting the Devil vs. shooting your aunt).

Not all women who kill their children are legally insane, and many of them do NOT walk. Caylee's mom hasn't got a real chance at an insanity plea. Some men who kill their children are found insane, many aren't. Some people fake insanity (its hard) and regret it when they spend the rest of thier lives in an insitution for the criminally insane. Some people who are unquestionably deeply, deeply distrubed, and very likely insane end up in prision, without medical treatment, because of the attitude I'm seeing here. They are punished for a crime they didn't understand, or for caving under unimaginable stress and confusion. The law, for thousands of years, has excused the mad, and modern cynicism should not put an end to this humane tradition.

Merely being mentally ill is not legal insanity. Though the definition varies from state to state, basically, you have to either 1) Not realize what you are doing, 2) Think you are doing something other than you are, 3) Be totally unable to control yourself, and often 4) all of the above. Bascially, you have to have a reality problem (my aunt is the Devil, my children are going to Hell unless I kill them now, my husband is actually an alien and eating my soul). In some states, being so completely distressed and out of control that you can't stop yourself counts, but that's fairly rare.

Caylee's mom maybe ill, but she is not delusional. She may be a pyschopath, and a pathological liar, but she's not psychotic. She maybe depressed, but she is not so depressed that she is having a psychotic break. No insanity plea for her.
 

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