2 Kids killed by snake

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Poor kids. Sounds like the snake got loose and went through the vent system to the apartment and killed the 5 and 7yr old. It was rarely handled according to the owner and was a dangerous animal. It was 15 foot African Rock Python. Those poor children.
 

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That does seem like extremely odd behavior for a snake. Not to mention, I'd think (not to be morbid) that a python would kill by constricting and it would take some time to kill a fully grown child..so wouldn't the other child run for help?
 

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That does seem like extremely odd behavior for a snake. Not to mention, I'd think (not to be morbid) that a python would kill by constricting and it would take some time to kill a fully grown child..so wouldn't the other child run for help?
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I was just discussing this on another forum. I think the details are a bit sketchy and am interested in hearing the results of the autopsies.
 
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Yea that seems really weird. I mean obviously something happened to the poor kids but the snake? Hinky.
 

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I have a hard time believing it was the snake, but am interested in the autopsy results. Either way, very sad for the kids :(.
 

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I could see the snake killing tow kids if they decided to put the snake around their necks like you see people do on TV ALL THE TIME (this practice is very, VERY unsafe, by the way!). They're boys. They may have thought it was cool. A snake that large could definitely accidentally kill two kids if it's wrapped around their necks. They can kill a grown man accidentally if it's around the neck. That said, it does sound a bit fishy, and I'm also interested in the rest of the story.

I can also see one kid not believing the other kid was in distress. They're boys, it's a snake, my brothers (and myself!) would absolutely have pretended it was killing us...until it actually killed us.
 

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Happened a few hours from me. I actually "like" the page of the store owner on Facebook. From what I have heard (and who knows what's true, there are SO many different things going around) it wasn't in the store, but in the apartment that the kids were staying in. The mother was there staying the night too, since the kids didn't live there but were just there for the night. I am very sketchy about what actually happened. From what I have gathered it'd be a VERY rare situation for a snake to kill TWO people at the same time. And no matter how aggressive the snake is, they generally don't go LOOKING to attack someone...

I am very sorry over the loss of the boys, for sure. Their deaths could have easily been avoided with proper housing. The owner of the snake said he didn't "think" the snake could fit through the vet he got out through... :( If only it had been properly covered.
 

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This sounds so sketchy to me. The boys were at this apartment for a sleepover, but the child residing there was in a different room?

And I'd buy that they could have both died if wrapping the snake around their necks together, but could a typical5 or 7 year old even lift a 15 foot python?!?
 

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As someone who has owned snakes and plan to own snakes again in the hopefully nearish future, I agree that this story seems very fishy. It really worries me for the snake community too. They have a BSL type similar issue we dog people deal with where different snakes are being banned if I remember correctly. Any story like this will only further push their agenda to try and ban more snakes. I do feel bad that two young lives were lost though. Just something about this story doesn't add up.


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As someone who has owned snakes and plan to own snakes again in the hopefully nearish future, I agree that this story seems very fishy. It really worries me for the snake community too. They have a BSL type similar issue we dog people deal with where different snakes are being banned if I remember correctly. Any story like this will only further push their agenda to try and ban more snakes. I do feel bad that two young lives were lost though. Just something about this story doesn't add up.


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This.^ I'm not buying it either. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the coroner's report comes out. Those poor boys.
 

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From what I understand, it was a case of the snake falling through the ceiling and smothering the boys, not an outright attack.

But I've also heard the idea that the snake was looking for warmth and just happened to find warmth on their head, smothering them.


Either way, it sounds like the news it portraying it as a smothering rather than an outright attack.
 
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I don't buy the snake did it, if it did it was like was said the kids were playing with it and it inadvertently killed them. No way did this snake climb up the vent, kill two sleeping kids and then just lay there.

That said I do believe there should be more control over owning animals like this. The number of these animals that die young because of poor handling, and them becoming invasive species because of people letting them free is sad. If they were controlled and you had to have an inspection yearly and account for it maybe people who don't really understand what it takes to care for a 15' snake wouldn't jump in so readily. It beats them being banned outright.
 

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I don't buy the snake did it, if it did it was like was said the kids were playing with it and it inadvertently killed them. No way did this snake climb up the vent, kill two sleeping kids and then just lay there.

That said I do believe there should be more control over owning animals like this. The number of these animals that die young because of poor handling, and them becoming invasive species because of people letting them free is sad. If they were controlled and you had to have an inspection yearly and account for it maybe people who don't really understand what it takes to care for a 15' snake wouldn't jump in so readily. It beats them being banned outright.
Thing is, this was a pet shop owner and someone who SHOULD have known better than the general public. It wasn't owned/improperly contained by some random Joe Schmoe that thought it would be cool to own a giant snake.

There are a ton of people who DO own these kinds of snakes, and the snakes live long healthy happy lives. You just never ever hear about them because they never do anything newsworthy.

If a species has the potential to become invasive in a local environment, then the local government is more than within their rights to regulate ownership. I don't think it should become a nationwide ban however, or have nationwide restrictions imposed.

For one, where is the money for yearly inspections going to come from? Even if you charge a several hundred dollars for a yearly license fee (which would be ridiculous by itself) it's not going to be enough to pay for some authority to go around inspecting housing.

Until the autopsies come back saying that yes, the snake is responsible, I'm going to say this seems VERY odd. To me it smells like something else went wrong and someone is trying to pin it on the snake.
 

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As someone who has owned snakes and plan to own snakes again in the hopefully nearish future, I agree that this story seems very fishy. It really worries me for the snake community too. They have a BSL type similar issue we dog people deal with where different snakes are being banned if I remember correctly. Any story like this will only further push their agenda to try and ban more snakes. I do feel bad that two young lives were lost though. Just something about this story doesn't add up.


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We have a ban in our town on "large constricting snakes" already. I'm no huge fan of snakes, but increased government control on animal ownership freaks me out even more than snakes do. The radio show I was listening to this morning had the head of the HSUS on, and sure enough he was promoting ban in the ownership of large snakes.

Technically I own a species that has been considered "invasive"--a Quaker parrot. They do very well for themselves if set loose if they are flighted--there are flocks in many major cities in the US. They build ginormous nests on transformers, causing headaches for power companies and locals are often afraid of them eating crops (though there is no a lot of evidence to back this up). I believe that there are 11 states that totally ban ownership, and several more that require a permit. Fortunately Indiana allows them...
 

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