i voted all of the above, but i'm on the fence about the yes while intoxicated. it can go both ways. so much is situational. but i believe that it certainly *can* constitute rape.
This.
the alcohol thing.. im on the fence. Girls in college especially really make me think twice about it.
I have WITNESSED quite a few times, girls who meet a guy at a party, drink flirt, says she wants to have sex, etc.. etc.. has sex. I have even seen them RIGHT AFTER they do it.. the girl is laughing, smiling, high5ing, all over the guy
and then the next day when she feels like a slut or is embarrased that people saw her or have heard about it..
boohoos about "I was raped!"
How were you raped? you said you wanted to have sex. its not rape just because you regretted it.
" but...I was drunk when I said it!"
how is he supposed to know that? EVERYONE at the party is drinking.
Its YOUR JOB to not drink so much that you can't control yourself or your actions. NOBODY forced alcohol down your throat.
what..are all guys supposed to carry around breathalizers?
1. don't drink like a crazy person. Alcohol is fun, I get it. but there is no need to overdue it.
2. If you are going to drink like a fish.. be smart about it. have a group of friends, a few of whom aren't drinking so much, WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER
3. FRIEND GROUND RULES. Before the night has even begun, if you KNOW you are going to be drinking tell your friends that under no circumstances are you sleeping with a guy and to not let you do it.
Its MUCH easier for your friends to stop you if they had previous permission and don't feel like they are being party poopers.
aka: "Leave my friend alone. She has had way too much to drink and shes not doing anything like that tonight"
Ya, if the girl is passed out half concious. I get it. that is taking advantage for a guy to have sex with her.
but I have witnessed and been around MANY parties and for the majority, its NOT LIKE THAT. The girls are acting totally normally (albeit a bit louder and gigglier) and flirting like crazy
I think if she is walking, she is talking, she isn't OBVIOUSLY trashed (falling all over the place, unconsious, throwing up, etc..) and she consents..then that is consent. wether she has been drinking or not.