Certain Breed People

Do they ever make you go wtf?

Pug people make me go wtf... I have three pugs as you all know, but i don't think i really count as one of those pug people.

All the ones i've met online (and in person) other than a select few are so... strange. Here's what i've gathered:

- Pugs are not dogs, they're children
- Cesar is on tv so he must be good and his techniques are perfect for bracheosophalic breeds.
- Pugs mustn't be hungry, god forbid they miss a single meal better rush it to the vet if it misses one meal. If it's hungry on the grain free food it was just switched to from the grain laden food it was on after a week of being on the new food, something must be wrong.
- If there's a pug on the bag, it must be good food.
- Putting a collar on a pug will automatically collapse their trachea, they cannot possibly walk in a collar even if they've got a perfect loose lead walk trained.
- Harnesses cause no harm to pugs, even when they're not trained to walk nice and pull like they're pulling a sled.
- Pugs cannot be potty trained, or trained to do tricks
- Pugs need to be on weight loss food because they're naturally fat
- Pugs will get salmonella from raw because it's not kibble, they cannot get salmonella from kibble because pugs are not like other dogs in any way
- Pugs shouldn't do agility, flyball, or anything really but lay on the couch and rot

What absolutely idiotic things have you all heard from people who have your breed?

People that actually OWN dobermans? I can't think of anything really, LOL Maybe it's just too early, but I can't think of anything weird from people online or in person who actually live with a dobe, LOL

I'm NOT going to go into specifics because I really do love my breed people, but I am baffled on a daily basis with the mentality of some of my pit bull people.

Most Pug people I have met do seem to think that Pugs need to be kept really fat. Poor dogs. I always get comments that my Pug is one of the leanest they have seen. Yeah, that's because he's HEALTHY

The only thing that irks me is the seemingly endless debates on "angulation" on the rear-end...but this is usually more of a debate between show and working line people.

I haven't met anyone in person that's said anything other than Lacey was a pretty and nice dog so...*shrug* not too many "breed people" bother me.

Chihuahua people are funny

-Smaller=Better.
- Chihuahuas cant DO anything other than be carried around, dog sports are for "bigger dogs"
- Chis are not dogs
- YOU HAVE TO DRESS THEM UP.. or else. lol
- Not being potty trained or in any way trained to do anything is OK. because they are small and cute
- My dog will feel bad if I dont spend a ridiculous amount of money on his wardrobe
- Anyone with a cute dog can breed their dog because chis only have 1-3 puppies usually and they are SOOO easy to find homes for

Most of my family has chesapeake bay retrievers and I get so sick of hearing how "hardheaded" they are when really they're just independent and the way they were trained sucks. This is all from my family though I don't know anyone else that has one. I used to think that I'd always want a chessie but after getting Mu and seeing how incredibly smart and easy (ish) to train she is I don't think I could go back to them lol.

We don't need the corgi herding instinct anymore, most never see livestock and therefore they should just be bred as good pets.

I've had strange encounters with people that think GSDs should be HUGE. well..they really aren't, but those people make me shudder anyway. speaking of shepherd peeps..I am one...will forever always be one...will never live without one. without the stupid thinking of what they should be......or how difficult they can be to train. I've heard such gibberish (even here) as to what a shepherd owner must do...blah, blah, blah. silly. they're just fun loving pups.

I hate how many JRT people think their dogs are trying to be 'dominant'. Esp breeders.

I said I wasn't going to go into specifics, but I lied.

My issue with some pit bull people (the general concepts of what the PB owner should be like and expect from his dog) is you have two polar opposites in thought about pit bulls.
You have the rescuers and their "general" beliefs. It's not ALLLL rescues, and reputable ones KNOW what the pit bull really is. But the general belief with a lot of "rescuers" of pit bulls is that they are sooo terribly misunderstood (and they ARE, but not in ALL regards), and they are just so lovey with ALL CREATURES. So, they let their pit bulls snuggle with their cats and if there is any dog aggression in the dog (or animal aggression), it can be...trained out.

Right. This is a general...thought of some rescuers, not all. But I've been seeing it A LOT lately. It's like, people want pit bulls that do not act like pit bulls. They want the lovey dovey human kissing machine and baby snuggler, but they don't want the dog aggression or high prey drive.

The the OTHER end of the spectrum is the old school pit bull owners. The owners that almost seem to ENJOY seeing their dog act like an ass around other dogs because it's what they are supposed to do.
This end, if your dog isn't from such-and-such line, it's not a dog. If you don't chain your dog outside, go to ADBA shows, or walk your dog in some metal contraption of a suit, then you're not being a responsible owner.
Hell, if you walk your dog down the street then you are doing your dog an injustice because you might encounter an off leash dog in which your beast will surely attack and then you've scarred the already poor reputation of the breed.
These guys act like their dogs can break stainless steel collars and rejoin continents. Like, they own rabid dinosaurs, not a dog.

Both extremes drive me insane.
I like falling inbetween the two or on my own. I know what my dog is, and I know what she is capable of. I do what I do with her because I know her.
I'm not going to allow her to be around other off leash dogs because she is dog aggressive, but I'm not going to pretend that I own a rabid dinosaur that can break bricks of concrete by head butting it, either.

^^^ Thank you!! :hail:

Same goes for most terrier breeds as well. I meet WAY too many terrier owners who think they just HAVE TO act "dominant" (with all dominance theory stereotypes intact) or their terriers will walk all over them. Then they wonder WHY their terriers show various aggression tendencies ... so they then figure they just need to be MORE dominant.

Most Lab owners I know are pretty cool people. Most are pretty open minded. You have to be with a Lab.

The only Lab owners I have met I didn't care for. Are people who think temperment wise Labs are perfect. They NEVER growl or have resource guarding issues.....and they are NEVER "wired" wrong due to bad breeding. I mean they are Labs! The "perfect" family dog. These same people are usually very anti pit or chow.

Oh and this is rare in owners. But alot of people think Labs should be HUGE and overweight. A Lab with a HEALTHY WEIGHT is obviousely being starved to death.

When it comes to Cocker Spaniels........

They should no longer be used as bird dogs. Their instinct has been bred out!

They are stupid.......Don't expect your Cocker Spaniel to be easily house trained. Let alone learn basic obedience

All Cockers eventually suffer from "Rage" and have to be put down

They are not athletic

Maggie May is just as smart and willing to learn as Sawyer. She also loves to learn new commands. She was house trained in less than a week.....After living her first year as an outdoor dog in a puppymill. She is far from stupid. She walks three hours a day (spread out through out the day) and loves it. She would swim or play fetch all day given the chance. And I have never in four years seen ANY sign of aggression from her.

Cocker Spaniel people tend to be alot older. Lol Mafiaprincess and Brattina are the only two people I know close...ish to my age that own Cocker Spaniels. So I tend not to fit in on breed specific forums for Cocker Spaniels.

Oh well. All I know is I plan to always have both breeds in my life.

Sheltie owners are weeeeiiirrdddd. I tried a sheltie forum a while but its not for me. A lot of bc owners are similarly weird too. (Not the ones here Beanie or Allie, etc) But I meet a lot of crazies both on other forums and in real life.

Papillon people... most are older ladies who are honestly kind of snooty. There's some new blood coming in with new ideas but the crowd is an older one and they're kind of... sticks in the mud. A lot of them. The online pap crowd tends to be obsessive and kind of wacky but I like them.

I have noticed I'm getting quite the collection of papillon stuff and butterfly stuff. Every time you walk into a papillon person's house you're assaulted by butterflies lol. I hope I don't get THAT bad.

Oh and I agree with Fran on the chi/toy owners. I tried lurking a chi forum (there's no pap forum) and I couldn't take it. Same with the toy dog forum. Definitely NOT for me. :rofl1:

^^^ THISX100. Drives me up the wall!!

A lot of dog owners in general make me go "wtf?". Last year at the Super Pet Expo, I saw a yorkie who couldn't have been more than two or three lbs being dragged behind its owner on leash. She wasn't paying attention to it at all, and it wasn't even trying to walk, just laying there while she dragged it smoothly across the tiled floor. Why do you take a tiny dog out and not even pay attention to it? It could get stepped on and broken!

And there were people who had brought a GSD, and she was stress panting and shaking with her tail tucked, and they weren't paying one bit of attention to their poor terrified dog. I bet one day their GSD will "just snap" and bite somebody.

And one year at Old Town Manassas' fireworks display I was walking between some people to get to where my friends were, and all of a sudden this Chihuahua FLIES at me barking and snarling, and the owner pulls it back just before it would have reached me. It would have bit me in the ankle if it hadn't been on a leash. Why bring a dog like that out to a public event with a gigantic crowd?

I also saw a guy there with an APBT who was stressing out pretty bad. Some people are just stupid.

these people are the ones who scare me the most when it comes to the future of this breed. they're the "it's all in how you raise them" people who have young pit bulls who love the dogpark and then one day they "turn" and they're monsters and there is crying and hand-wringing and the dog is back at the shelter or dead, because how could their BABY turn into such a MONSTER!!!

they tend to be the people for whom dog aggression is absolutely unacceptable, period. they are against the breeding of pits with any kind of dog aggression. they insist that because there is no gene for dog aggression that it can't possibly be genetic in any way. they want a golden retriever in a pit bull suit because it's trendy to rescue pit bulls but they don't actually want to live with one.


yuck yuck yuck. while i really do much prefer the ADBA-type dog, man, that whole world is so scary to me. i know there are plenty of ADBA people who are smart, responsible, respectful people who love their dogs for what they are, but it seems like stupidity gets rewarded an awful lot. it's a different mindset for a lot of people, and i get that, but i don't like it. there's a difference between respecting the dog fighting history of the breed and glorifying it.

i'm a middle-grounder, too. i love my dogs and respect them for what they are. i love the pit bull breed, and while i don't love dog-aggression, i'll put up with it for the things that come with it.

it worries me how few like-minded pit bull people i actually run into in real life.

And this is why I love you.
Really, we should do lunch some time, you and I.
I was beginning to think people like us no longer existed anymore!

I love the look of the ADBA dog, too, and I agree, there ARE smart, responsible ADBA owners out there (I went to a show almost 2 years ago with a group of them), but when you visit, ahem, certain sites, you'd think they really WANT the dogs to be ballistic over other dogs.

And, like you, I don't LOVE dog aggression, but my dog is dog aggressive. And if I have to put up with it to get everything else she is, then I will. I know what she is, and I'll always keep that in mind, but she's not a prisoner in her own home because of it.

Hey Pix ... agree with all you've said on the stereotypes about Labs!! AND you can take all the above and substitute "Golden Retriever" everywhere you've typed "Lab" and it's all true as well.

Another thing I've heard from owners of both breeds is that they don't really "need" training because everyone knows either breed is bound to be "the perfect family dog" by virtue of their breed alone.

So they get a cute and cuddly Lab or Golden pup and it gets little or nothing in the way of training ... they housebreak it but that's about it. Then they wonder WHY they end up with a big adolescent dog who counter surfs, raids the garbage anytime it smells like food, and jumps up on the kids and knocks them down.
Like duh ... train your dog and he/she won't do those things.

Beagles-

Although bailey is currently a little over what I'd like her to be, I have seen SOO many fat beagles. And owners think its cute, or, "Hes just always hungry!" He is a BEAGLE! Of course he is hungry!