people who dress up their dogs could be prosecuted

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RSPCA says people who dress up their dogs could be prosecuted

The RSPCA in Britain is threatening legal action against people who dress up their dogs.

The animal welfare charity claims that forcing pets to wear clothing could be harmful, and in some cases there may even be grounds to prosecute.

Canine couture has become fashionable in recent years and there is a dizzying array of products on sale, from bootees, pyjamas, all-in-one trousers and even hoodies for dogs.

Top fashion designers, including Vivienne Westwood and Ben de Lisi, have also created dog designs, while the London store Harrods has an annual fashion show called Pet-a-Porter.

Experts believe there are occasions where dog clothing is acceptable, such as with small dogs and short-haired varieties, and during cold weather.

Jess Bland, a professional dog walker and pet sitter, says: "Dog clothing certainly serves its purpose when it's cold and wet, but it has to fit properly.

"Although dogs would survive in the wild, they're generally used to being indoors. So there is a case that they need coats in the winter, especially shorter haired dogs and smaller dogs."

But the fashion for pet clothes angers Lynn Williams, founder of dog charity Happy Dogs. She said: "People love their pets and the retail trade has latched on to that.

"To see a little dog dressed up in boots, I think, is a little over the top.

"You can buy anything fashion wise for your dog. I have an extreme love of the dog, but I don't like to see them dressed up as little human beings. I don't think they like it either. It's unnatural."

Earlier this week animal welfare officers also warned that dog clothing could cause the animals to overheat.

Jo Barr, RSPCA spokeswoman, said: "Dog owners should be aware that under the Animal Welfare Act that came into force in April 2007 they have a duty of care to ensure that all of their pets' needs are met.

"One of those needs is to express normal behaviour and it could mean that with restrictive clothing they are not able to do that properly.

"We're concerned that any pet should be viewed as a fashion accessory. Taking on an animal is a long-term commitment. It's quite humiliating and sends out the wrong message about pet care.

"We've seen trends in recent years brought about by the rise in celebrities with 'handbag dogs'.

"This usually leads to people taking on pets because they are 'fashionable' and sadly that means many are neglected.

"We've had similar problems with popular films like Harry Potter, with parents wanting to buy owls as pets for their children.

"Going back further to the 1990s, we saw people unable to cope with turtles and terrapins that they'd bought due to the popularity of the film Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle."

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For goodness sakes. Don't they have anything better to do with their time/money/energy? What a bunch of losers.
 

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If it ain't hurting the dog I don't care if you dress him up in drag and make him do the hoola.
 

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I can see where they might have gotten grounds for this...I once spent 3 hours grooming a Yorkie who's owners liked to dress her up. Sadly for the dog, they didn't like to brush her and she ended up with horrendous mats...I felt so bad for that dog. I would have been nicer to just shave her down a bit, but I couldn't get the permission and so I had to use every trick I've ever heard of or encountered in order to get the tangles combed out.

On the other hand...this will be another ban that had good intentions and quickly spun into lunacy land.
 

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My dogs want to take their own lives away from the cruelty...


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My dogs wear clothes, doesn't harm nor bother them one bit. Hats and stuff on their heads, those do bother them, so I've stop from buying those, but I only made them wear it for pictures only, its not like they're on them 24/7. I did dress them up everytime we went out, but I stopped only because they would get it dirty and ended up taking it off by the end of the day. But they associated clothes like seeing a leash or harness, fun time outside.

The clothes aren't tight or anything so it doesn't restrict their movements, they still do zoomies, jump in dirty puddles, all that good stuff....it depends on the dog really. If they didn't like it I wouln't put it on them, like those booties since there's no snow over here, I know they would HATE those [seeing almost every dogs reaction to it] so I wouldn't even bother with those, but clothes....they don't seem to mind so why not? The clothes I make them wear are good for the sunny weather outside, I won't put it on if its too hot outside. Its not like I'm putting sweaters on them in the middle of July though.

And if it does get too hot for them, they jump in the kiddy pool, go figure. Lesson learned here, don't put clothes on them when they're going to end up soaking them in dirty pool water lol. And yes I did take the clothes off after they got it wet.



I mean some people put fancy collars on their dogs...to me I don't like the neckline it gives so my dogs don't use them. Also having had a dog with glaucoma, reading how collars can give dogs stress in the eyes, I gave up in collars entirely...but I don't shun people who choose to put collars on their dogs.

Dogs are beautiful without collars and with fancy collars on them, which seem now to be all the rage. Dogs could careless for them, or clothes....as long as it isn't harming them, I don't see why we cannot do as we please with our dogs? So we use them as 'fashion statements' from time to time, no harm in that, unless you think that is ALL your dog is.

I do see problems though with people who use their dogs as fashion statements with the 'gangsta image' in mind, with the chain collars, collars with spikes, heavy padlocks, ect......but no one ever talks about that...they go after the owners who dress their dogs in cute clothes?

As far as 'restriction' goes....



Whenever I get a new camera I can video tape their reaction to me putting out clothes for them and the wagging tails, the 'paw dance', and the over excitement from the 'clothes bag' where their clothes are. Same reaction as their harness/leashes and when they see food. They like it, as far as their reactions go....if they ran across the room and it was a struggle to put it on, I wouldn't even bother.

Like with nail clipping the dogs have had good experiences with them so they don't seem mind, but Princess the doxie I guess never had it done or had bad experiences with it and its a hassle all the time...so I don't bother clipping her nails, I take that up to the vet to do it. If it was that much of an issue with my dogs and clothes, I would not even bother. Its nothing to have clothes on to them really, I'm not putting them through anything.

I also dye by dogs, and people seem to think its cruel too. Its not harming him nor his skin, health, ect...and he lurves the extra limelight/attention he gets from the non-peta freaks.

People do things to their babies like make them wear onesies with political stuff, team jerseys, curse words, ect. They give their babies hair-do's like mohawks, ect. Does anyone find that cruel that they 'use' their babies as fashion statements? They can't walk yet, but they have Jordan shoes on? Its that wrong? NO.

Like with babies....its not harming* them, it doesn't phase them, its not abuse*, nor CRUEL*, so who cares?

*cruel
1. willfully or knowingly causing pain or distress to others.
2. enjoying the pain or distress of others: the cruel spectators of the gladiatorial contests.
3. causing or marked by great pain or distress: a cruel remark; a cruel affliction.
4. rigid; stern; strict; unrelentingly severe.


*abuse:
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.

*harm:
1. physical injury or mental damage; hurt: to do him bodily harm.
2. moral injury; evil; wrong.
–verb (used with object) 3. to do or cause harm to; injure; damage; hurt: to harm one's reputation.

Dressing up a dog does NONE of these things.


So people that spoil their dogs and spend money on them and not have them neglected in their backyard or something of that sort will cause this their beloved pet by dressing them up?

Over-spoiling is bad too, but we're not talking, dogs who are carried all the time in carriers/strollers, have no muscle mass, are over-dressed in hot weather, ect... ludacris things....plain dressing up a dog ever once in awhile is cruel?

Some dogs actually tolerate even things like hoodies, booties, bows, ect....others do not. If it doesn't cause great distress to the dog....how is it wrong?
 

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I can see where they might have gotten grounds for this...I once spent 3 hours grooming a Yorkie who's owners liked to dress her up. Sadly for the dog, they didn't like to brush her and she ended up with horrendous mats...I felt so bad for that dog. I would have been nicer to just shave her down a bit, but I couldn't get the permission and so I had to use every trick I've ever heard of or encountered in order to get the tangles combed out.

On the other hand...this will be another ban that had good intentions and quickly spun into lunacy land.
Yeah I can see how in certain situations it could become problematic but the vast majority of people aren't like that. And the majority of people who dress up their pets at least are *usually* giving them basic necessities like food and water. Or maybe I'm overestimating human beings again.

**Begin rant** (Zoom this isn't directed at you :) )

Why don't they concentrate their time/money/energy on a cause that will actually make a difference to an animal whose life in on the line? What a stupid, weird little issue to nitpick at.

And they claim dogs could survive in the wild. Ummm, what breeds are they talking about here? Because I haven't seen any hairless cresteds roaming feral. People usually don't bother dressing the hardy breeds like GSDs and huskies, they don't need it. Why ban something that *could* be a problem, when there hasn't been any cases? The didn't mention any specific cases where dogs died of heat exhaustion due to wearing clothes. From the sound of the article it is strictly a comfort issue. :rolleyes:

Oh I know! Let's just ban everything right now! Everything except nerf. Everything will be nerf. We will have nerf cars, nerf trains, nerf knives, nerf garage doors, our animals will have nerf teeth and claws....wait a minute, that won't stop allergies so might as well make the whole dog nerf. Everybody will be perfectly safe and happy. Until someone suffocates in their nerf bedding anyway.
 

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And I fail to see how standard doggie clothes are more restrictive on their bodies than a service dog's vest, or a therapy dog wearing a uniform during a visit, or a police/bomb/sar dog wearing a cape or vest. They are probably more comfortable since the working gear tends to be canvasy fabric and novelty clothes are lighter breathable cotton.
 

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RSPCA says people who dress up their dogs could be prosecuted

that's stupid.... why cant just do something right or something people will be happy about like giving away free treats to people's pets...
 

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I would seriously like them to come and explain to my two in the middle of winter when they wear their jerseys at night. They are LITTLE dogs and they get cold!

Besides, my dogs, I will dress them up if I want. Lilly doesn't like it but Ben does. So Lills does not get dressed up.
 

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oh boy! Im in trouble. I have shelties and I still dress them up in hoodies, rain coats, and sometimes t-shirts.
However if I actually put the hood on Ruckus... it IS dog abuse and animal cruelty. you should see how that poor dog looks and acts if you put the hood on him! LOL
 

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Just when I was starting to like the RSPCA...

I'm not a fan of dressing up dogs. I do think it tends to cause many people to humanize the dogs. But this is ridiculous.

I think they're talking more along the lines of this kind of dressing up. They do say that wearing coats for cold weather is OK.

:rolleyes:
 

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These are the same people who are behind the changes to the various standards because of that documentary including the ones where a Chow Chow should now be bred to NOT have a coat that cause it to be bothered in hot weather. Seriously...what's next over there?


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you mean Victor isn't human? joke..i think there are way worse things in the world to sorry about. I had a man make fun of the fact that VIctor had a sweatshirt on. I tried to explain to him that he loses weight so fast and is not a big eater. I have to keep him from shivering off ..i mean for pete sake Horses wear blankets for the same reason don't they? ANd even if they think clothes are silly...what is the harm? Victor likes his sweaters and coats. I sure wish his new one would have arrived before this cold hit.
 

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These are the same people who are behind the changes to the various standards because of that documentary including the ones where a Chow Chow should now be bred to NOT have a coat that cause it to be bothered in hot weather.
Hmmm...haven't heard that. The RSPCA is also calling for an end to BSL. I guess you can't have everything.
 

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*sigh* and who is to decide what is cruel?

lets take hairless dogs...
in the summer they need protection or they will burn, in the winter they need layers so they dont freeze, today it is -10 with the windchill, when ruby goes out she gets her pjs a sweater AND her coat, if shes going out for more than a pee she gets boots too (i dont want to deal with frostbitten toes) she looks like a little eskimo all bundled up and it LOOKS restrictive, btu she can still run around like a lunatic in the full get up...however that COULD be abusive? what? youd rather i either NOT let her out at all or let her out nekkid and let her freeze her arse off?!
 

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I think and this is just my opinion they rather be 'fashion statements' from time to time than live the lives they did before with neglectful, even abusive dog owners........and yet I'm 'abusing' my dog for actually caring two cents about it. I guess I should bring them back to the shetler, back to homes where they're outside 24/7 on a small concrete area, and abused with mops and brooms...because according to this I'm a terrible dog owner and don't deserve to own dogs.
 

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