This is probably a loaded question...but.....

[mmcduffie1]

I watched Michael Moores movie 2 nights ago. Scary stuff, I think I agree with Buckshot.

Micheal Moore is a moron with an agenda. His candidate for president lost so he goes on some silly childish tantrum to debunk the current administration. Sure you may have seen his movie , but appareantly you didn't listen to it. Even the most delusional conspiracy theorist would laugh at his insane accusations. The mere fact that he said "there is no terrorist threat" makes him a complete fraud. Try reading a book and a watching less fiction on TV.

 

[mmcduffie1]

I don't think there was ever a reason to go to Iraq, and we shouldn't have even started the whole thing. The Bush administration was so arrogant to think they could walk in there and crush them and be out of there in 6 months...If they even believed that. The whole thing is just stirring the pot, creating more anti-american sentiment, and putting the American people in danger, imo.

Your IMO is wrong. We had every reaosn to go to Iraq. Do you want a missle or some dirty bomb blowing up in your neighborhood? I doubt it. The price of freedom is high. anyone who denounces our JUSTIFIED invasions and causes should find a new country. I hear real estate in Iraq is cheap now.

It takes blood and tears to keep our freedom the way it is. The mere notion if disagreement says "so what". It's direspectful to our fallen troops that gave their lives for YOUR freedom that you would say such a thing. I know - let's get together with some of the families that have lost loved ones in Iraq and see how they feel about you saying that their child or spouse died for no reason.

This is the dumbest thing I think I have heard and I watch CNN. IMO

 

[mmcduffie1]

I totally agree with Melissa. I think what irks me the most is the whole 'we're doing it to save the people' thing, when it was really just for economical reasons.

so you like the price of gas being so high? We're fighting for freedom and our way of life. Our way of life INCLUDES economics.

 

[Melissa_W]

lol... thanks for the insults.

If you watched the news (besides Fox), you would know, there were no WMD in Iraq.

 

[mmcduffie1]

I think the plan was to bomb them into total submission. That tactic wouldnt work on me unless I was killed from it. So unless we want to commit ourselves to genocide, this plan wont work. <<see through the eyes of your enemy>>The more of my countrymen that were hurt the harder I would fight the people who created this. I am a peaceful guy but sending a tomahawk missile into my neighborhood would make a "terrorist" out of a normally peacefull fellow.

sounds like treason to me hier hitler

 

[mmcduffie1]

I'm sure that other countries get really tired of the US government butting in to their issues. My daughters boyfriend was in Canada about a month ago, playing in a baseball tournament, and he had a Texas baseball hat on, and he was harrassed my people because he was an American and was wearing a hat from Bush's home state. They didn't like Bush at all. I asked my daughters b/f if he said " alot of us don't like him either"? He said "yes" he did...they had a pretty nice discussion after that.

so because some loser in Kanada harassed your boyfriend - that makes Bush stupid. That's intelligent. People get harassed daily because of the color of their skin, the way they dress, the size of their body, or for what they believe in. There will always be stupid people, but there will always be more people that believe in a just cause like our fight for liberation and the end of terrorism. IMO

 

[mmcduffie1]

First off, those who do the declaring of war should have to do the actual fighting. That would put a damper on a lot of this stuff.

Second, the first rule of war should be that you have to eat what you kill. That would definitely stop a lot of this nonsense.

do you honestly think that making a decision that would put us at war and possibly cause the loss of American lives is an easy decision? How arrogant. The reason that the policy makes and decision makers don't go to war is because then this country would have to be run by people that think like you do. Anarchy is a foul friend.

find a loved one - blindfold them - take them out to a bust interstate - then decide if you want to try to guide them acorss blindfolded. Then maybe you'll have a clue.

 

[mmcduffie1]

I just don't trust American leaders one bit... You've ever seen that video that was on the Internet showing that it was totally impossible that the 'plane' that landed on the pentagon on 9/11 was really a plane? You've ever heard the rumors that the only reason the towers collapsed is because there were secret experiments done in the basement, and it's the stuff that spread through the pipes that made it collapse? And what about JFK's assassination?

I'm not going to say that there aren't weird things in other countries too... but the American government is really fishy. Plus, Bush uses people's religions beliefs to get them on their sides, and it makes me sick.

WHAT????!!!!!!!! Did you bump your head? JFK was killed by Lee Oswald. End of discussion. How could there be secret experiments in a building that was in the middle of millions of people. Our government has made some errors, but I think they are smart enough to keep any "secret expirements" in a SECRET location.

 

[mmcduffie1]

regardless of how I feel about the war,I want our people out. Have you heard how many people have died in Ohio lately?! Every time I turn on the news I am afraid I will hear some one I know is dead again. I don't even know tha tmany people in the military yet I know more than enough people that have been killed or seriouesly injured. I just saw one of the kids I grew up with the other day and I didn't even know what to say to him. His leg is basically gone nad he just looked so just blah. It just wasn't him. My friend who was in my clinical last january -may or sos husband got killed this summer. They just got married in november. I didn't know what to say to her eitheir. She firmly believied he would be coming home and I cry just thinking about it. Some of our friends came back,they are a group of three brothers,when one of them got their eye injured really bad. All I heard from them was how to kill someone silently. I'm scared for them when they come home for good to

And at this point i think we eitheir have to blow them all up or just get out. It won't work any other way. You can't change people who have lived like that for hundreds of years in a couple years.

Not saying I want them blown up,I have no suggestions.

Peace and our way of life can only be preserved by the blood of heros and through superior firepower. Sure let's pull all the troops out. Leave the country tipping on it's heels. That way Osama can have an entire country to train new suicide bombers. That's a dandy idea.

 

[mmcduffie1]

Does anyone find it ironic that Iraq's a democracy now - and didn't have a choice in the matter?

Iraq had a choice and they made it. When the Iraqi people came in droves to tell American soldiers where the insurgent hide-outs were or where to look for arms caches. If they didn't want us there they would have fought back.

 

[mmcduffie1]

There is no sense in fighting for freedom in a place that you dont live. The people wont be able to hold it if you leave. The result is they now live under our laws. The idea for fighting for freedom in this country is lost at the voting booth. Thousands upon thousands have died in our wars for freedom only to have the freedom they died for chisled away by voters. I hope the soldiers dont get smart and turn on the voters. Although if they live up to their oath, they would have to.

That makes no sense. Voting is why we are free. They live under our laws while they draft their own constitution which we are staying out of. Islamic ways are strong in their constitution according to the first draft. If that's true then there can't be much if any American influence. Try reading the facts before opening your big mouth.

 

[mmcduffie1]

Yeah...like they even had a choice in that matter.

They had a choice. If you don't want to fight in any wars DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY! That is so stupid. That's like saying you didn't have a choice when you shot the neighbor - he was just in front of the gun.

 

[mmcduffie1]

I don't know...on one hand, we are protecting our country and have caught one of the major terrorists, Saddam Hussein, but on the other, we've got all these US soldiers and soldiers from other countries and regular innocent people dying all the time.

God will sort the good from the bad.

 

[Melissa_W]

Have you seen the gas prices go down? NO. The oil companies are making record profits.

They have been fighting back. Since March 20, 2002.

 

[mmcduffie1]

I believe we should have never been involved in the whole thing. I think we should just mine our **** business. But now because we "want to help" people are trying to bomb our buildings

we do mind our business and bombing our buildings is our business. so it is a fine line.

 

[mmcduffie1]

This is a pretty relevant link. These people are crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. IMO

 

[Melissa_W]

lol... would you like to come back with something besides an insult?

They have their OWN website.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

 

[mmcduffie1]

But Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.

NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11? What country do you think was the gateway to American? They were trained in the phillipines and afganistan - Iraq hardbored them for a time till they cooled off on our lists - then they flew to Kanada. Then they walked in a blew up TWO building full of people. This isn't counting hundreds of attacks on American embassies and the like. Irag was a major camp ground for terrorist.

 

[mmcduffie1]

Sorry, I thought you were refering to Iraq, since that is the main focus of this thread.

Of course, what did we really accomplish in Afganistan?

OMG!!! We ran the taliban out and cut many of osoma's supply lines. Did you know that women in afganistan weren't considered to be much more than dogs? They couldn't go to school and they had to cover their faces all the time. Entire families were slaughtered in afganistan by the taliban and tribal warlords because of their desire to leave afganistan to seek American or western lives. The ones that were allowed to leave were the ones that BLEW UP THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!

 

[Melissa_W]

Ok.... first of all... it's Canada. I can't take you seriously when you can't spell.

The terrorists were mostly Saudi.

Osama Bin Laden and Saddam were not allies.

Show me a credible source to back up your ridiculous claims, and I will take you seriously.