Melie..they both came on to cause trouble. That is just so very obvious. Why in the world would anyone follow someone to another forum...posts these opinions..if NOT to try and cause some grief? This isn't life or death...it starts being silly. They said their opinion...and why in the world do we even care what transpires on another forum anyway???? We simply don't. So..they have issues.......then take it back where it belongs. They did not join this forum for any reason other than to post this nonsense. So..GREAT..if it is obvious to them that we don't care, and they post their regrets....then it's over. GREAT again! If they want to sound so very sad for joining a forum that doesn't wish to recognize their wish to harrass a member of ours...then GREAT! Goodness...move on. Don't bother to state regrets...or anything else....just simply move on. I never recognize the dribble of posters that follow to harrass someone. They can handle it any way they like on their forum, we are more loving here.
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Melie..they both came on to cause trouble. That is just so very obvious. Why in the world would anyone follow someone to another forum...posts these opinions..if NOT to try and cause some grief? This isn't life or death...it starts being silly. They said their opinion...and why in the world do we even care what transpires on another forum anyway???? We simply don't. So..they have issues.......then take it back where it belongs. They did not join this forum for any reason other than to post this nonsense. So..GREAT..if it is obvious to them that we don't care, and they post their regrets....then it's over. GREAT again! If they want to sound so very sad for joining a forum that doesn't wish to recognize their wish to harrass a member of ours...then GREAT! Goodness...move on. Don't bother to state regrets...or anything else....just simply move on. I never recognize the dribble of posters that follow to harrass someone. They can handle it any way they like on their forum, we are more loving here.
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I know I am a new member here, but I am a long standing member of Today's Parent (although pretty much new to the Pets forum there--mostly I am in childcare issues). I don't really know anything about all this fighting that is going on there--I stay out of stuff like that, and pretty much ignored it when it happened. But I would like to say that in general, TP is a wonderful site, and I have always had a great experience there. The ladies (and men!) at the Family Pets forum have been very helpful (yuck included, and MyBest too) with all my puppy questions.
I really don't want to get into any hoopla that has gone on there or here, but I didn't want all you guys to think that TP is not a great place to visit! It seems to be making a bad impression here the past few days :-(
I know I am a new member here, but I am a long standing member of Today's Parent (although pretty much new to the Pets forum there--mostly I am in childcare issues). I don't really know anything about all this fighting that is going on there--I stay out of stuff like that, and pretty much ignored it when it happened. But I would like to say that in general, TP is a wonderful site, and I have always had a great experience there. The ladies (and men!) at the Family Pets forum have been very helpful (yuck included, and MyBest too) with all my puppy questions.
I really don't want to get into any hoopla that has gone on there or here, but I didn't want all you guys to think that TP is not a great place to visit! It seems to be making a bad impression here the past few days :-(
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Thank you...
You wouldn't find many of the cons as they are deleted by the mods, and we have no cache system. We also don't have an archive so posts older than a certain time simply disappear.
We have had posters make up entire families, post about them constantly and their woes and travails - people have sent gifts and cards - only to discover that it is all bogus, and none of this actually exists.
We've had trolls who have repeatedly attacked the site, and who send anonymous cruel e-mails and visit member's home websites to leave terribly unkind messages.
It's a parenting site, so much of what happens doesn't even involve the "dog world", but children. It's hard to explain some of the games that have occurred with people misrepresenting themselves, but some have deeply damaged the fabric of the community. One incident in particular involved a woman who supposedly lost a baby at birth and subsequently committed suicide, which threw the whole community into disarray - except that there were serious concerns that none of that was real, either.
You wouldn't find many of the cons as they are deleted by the mods, and we have no cache system. We also don't have an archive so posts older than a certain time simply disappear.
We have had posters make up entire families, post about them constantly and their woes and travails - people have sent gifts and cards - only to discover that it is all bogus, and none of this actually exists.
We've had trolls who have repeatedly attacked the site, and who send anonymous cruel e-mails and visit member's home websites to leave terribly unkind messages.
It's a parenting site, so much of what happens doesn't even involve the "dog world", but children. It's hard to explain some of the games that have occurred with people misrepresenting themselves, but some have deeply damaged the fabric of the community. One incident in particular involved a woman who supposedly lost a baby at birth and subsequently committed suicide, which threw the whole community into disarray - except that there were serious concerns that none of that was real, either.
All right I will jump in here. I went to the other site last night and read the posts supposedly made by our Yuck, they certainly seem like the same person and some of the info was contradictory to what we know here. Regardless of what Yuck has posted on this other forum she came here for help from us for her dog Yukon and we have provided what help we can and things are better for her because of it. She may have seemed to be misleading in the other forum as she passed on information she learned from other sources, in one post she explained that she was training a five month old puppy for someone and that he had peeing in the crate problems. This was obvioulsly about Yukon, she shared her experiences with others on that forum about what she did to help out the problem. She did suggest that she was a trainer and had been training for awhile..she gives her email addy to have people email her about help with training problems. So to me that means that she is trying to be a helpful person to others that are having problems. Maybe she went about it in the wrong way but she did it with good intentions at heart I believe.
Lets just let all this go now...we know and love the Yuck that posts here regardless of her past mistakes or choices. I hope that we can all just get over this...TP people included. There was no actual harm done until she stated her opinion on this forum about breeding two different breeds of dogs. This is something our board is passionatley against for the most part and we are entitled to feel how we do about it. Yuck never posted any info about where this information was coming from so there was no harm there either. It someone comes to us about breeding in that fashion we tend to point out the flaws in breeding that way. All of us love dogs, want to learn more about dogs, want to talk about our dogs, etc. Isn't that enough of a common thread?
Lets just let all this go now...we know and love the Yuck that posts here regardless of her past mistakes or choices. I hope that we can all just get over this...TP people included. There was no actual harm done until she stated her opinion on this forum about breeding two different breeds of dogs. This is something our board is passionatley against for the most part and we are entitled to feel how we do about it. Yuck never posted any info about where this information was coming from so there was no harm there either. It someone comes to us about breeding in that fashion we tend to point out the flaws in breeding that way. All of us love dogs, want to learn more about dogs, want to talk about our dogs, etc. Isn't that enough of a common thread?
Thank you Melissa. I too know MyBestFriendIsADog, and yes, I'm lurking from the other site. I do apologize for that.
MyBestFriendIsADog is a very honourable person who feels a little taken. I'd suggest reading the posts in question and come to your own conclusions, but due to moderator deletions, they are no longer on the server.
Nobody would have happened onto this site at all if things added up and they didn't. We have had some very terrible things happen and tend to want a little verification when things go south.
I have scanned through your site, it seems like a pretty good place filled with sensible advice and, for the most part, decent people. If the balance of posters here feel prejudiced against MyBestFriendIsADog and I, well, we can safely mosey on elsewhere.
Thanks to those who take these posts as they're meant, simply as a warning that the internet is as small or as big a place as you want it to be. Not everybody has the clearest of motives.
MyBestFriendIsADog is a very honourable person who feels a little taken. I'd suggest reading the posts in question and come to your own conclusions, but due to moderator deletions, they are no longer on the server.
Nobody would have happened onto this site at all if things added up and they didn't. We have had some very terrible things happen and tend to want a little verification when things go south.
I have scanned through your site, it seems like a pretty good place filled with sensible advice and, for the most part, decent people. If the balance of posters here feel prejudiced against MyBestFriendIsADog and I, well, we can safely mosey on elsewhere.
Thanks to those who take these posts as they're meant, simply as a warning that the internet is as small or as big a place as you want it to be. Not everybody has the clearest of motives.
Well, if I can put my .02 in, I would say that even amongst one forum, there are a lot of people and posts...a lot of interaction and sometimes complicated. I think it complicates things a whole lot more to cross over, back and forth between this and other forums. I think it's a conflict of interest to get involved with other forums in that close type of proximity. If you have a problem with someone on your forum, then deal with it within your forum. And we'll deal with our problems within this forum.
I'm so sorry Debi, I seem to always tick you off for some reason. I thought my post made it clear that we should move on and that everything I read on the other forum (I happen to like to investigate things, always been in my nature) did not seem like it was a person giving false information. Did you even read my post or just jump on me?
Edit to add: Debi your hostility toward me is uncalled for, I don't deserve it. I am sorry that you don't see me as a valued member of this forum, I guess maybe I should just move on as well.
Edit to add: Debi your hostility toward me is uncalled for, I don't deserve it. I am sorry that you don't see me as a valued member of this forum, I guess maybe I should just move on as well.
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And as I said earlier I don't think it will be possible for me to continue to post here as a result of this episode. I am sorry that it evolved this way, and I truly do continue to wish you and your community the best. You seem to have a great bunch of people here who share a common interest, and that's awesome. Any attempt I made to join this community would be tainted by this episode, and I accept that and my role in it. Regards to all.
Well thats too bad. It's unfortunate that someone made up an entire family and entire life that was not real and it hurt someone but please oh PLEASE tell me how yuck saying she is a dog trainer hurts you? I understand what you are saying about some of the deception, threatening emails and such. Did yuck do any of that? because from what you have all said all she did was say she was a trainer and that she was a breeder. OH MY GOD someone call the police AND you should also sue her for pain and suffering. Do you see how stupid this sounds. Honestly, you are not justified in what you are doing. Also how do we know that YOU aren't the people who are truly lying. Such is the internet. Anyone can say anything they want. Take it at face value or take it for more than that. What yuckaduck said in those other forums is not enough to cause anyone any kind of pain.
for goodness sakes, Adrienne...this isn't anything personal to you. I just don't see any reason to investigate any postings or rantings from people jumping on here from another forum with their own agenda. I don't think it is necessary to prove Yuck's posts there one way or the other...that's all. Please stop being so sensitive. 
My gripe is with people that cross over with some gripe that isn't relative to our forum...they simply should keep it there...deal with it as they wish. So, we gave them their say....and what ticks me is that they still linger here. For what?? Nothing but trouble. Now...stop thinking I am picking on you...it's just not my intention.
My gripe is with people that cross over with some gripe that isn't relative to our forum...they simply should keep it there...deal with it as they wish. So, we gave them their say....and what ticks me is that they still linger here. For what?? Nothing but trouble. Now...stop thinking I am picking on you...it's just not my intention.geesh I cant believe that these new members keep coming after karen was banned.Get over it people you dont see us coming there and causing grief for karen on your forum.So why do it here.Dont get me wrong I like all new members but there is no need to come start a war with the already existing members.I am glad everyone is supporting yuck,she really needs it right now.She has been dealing with a lot of crap in the past 2 weeks Thanks everyone Lisa.
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You need to remember too that my user name was hijacked over at TP for quite some time. I actually had my email banned by the moderator and used my husband's email to prevent false things being posted. Like someone said I had four kids on the parent section. I quickly straighten that up [2 toddlers that is it] and I tried to help because there was a lady who was advising people to just PTS their dogs rather than try and solve the problem. As I said there if I don't know I will happily forward the email to someone who does. I never ever gave advice on anything that I new nothing about. Period. I did not post the fire over there because I felt it was none of their business and they were already causing trouble so why share such horrors for Karen to attack me with again. Which she did. When one of the lurkers asked me about it I told the truth, why because I don't lie. Of course instantly Karen stepped in and started her attacking yet again. I have left PT completely so those who hate me so much, it is all yours have fun. I never ever said anything to hurt anyone, I never lead anybody astray. So sorry for being helpful, I sure have learned from this and I can guarantee I will help no one with anything again in my lifetime. I will stick to myself and mind my own business. So the byb and the others can have fun on TP trashing me, I really don't care anymore. I will just deal with my own things my own way. I won't share anything again, people attacking and being so heartless make problems worse than the event themselves.
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Well, now.......I am sorry but I would have trouble having any respect for someone who deliberately breeds mutts strictly for money. Such a person might be tolerated, but not beloved.
What you don't seem to realize is we personally got to see exactly what a bottom feeder Karen101 is. She showed all of us just what kind of person she is. And I am sorry, she ain't nobody that I would wish to associate with. I prefer people who are at least as intelligent and classy as my DOGS are!
There ARE no acceptable excuses for what was done. Period. I think we have another Forrest Gump situation here.
Well, now.......I am sorry but I would have trouble having any respect for someone who deliberately breeds mutts strictly for money. Such a person might be tolerated, but not beloved.
What you don't seem to realize is we personally got to see exactly what a bottom feeder Karen101 is. She showed all of us just what kind of person she is. And I am sorry, she ain't nobody that I would wish to associate with. I prefer people who are at least as intelligent and classy as my DOGS are!
There ARE no acceptable excuses for what was done. Period. I think we have another Forrest Gump situation here.
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