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But people tend to coo, and coddle, and REINFORCE the person's belief that they don't have a choice, even though they aren't doing it consciously.
Please quote someone here who has told her she doesn't have a choice. Other than You and Barbara that is.
 

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Or maybe you're just so insecure and biased that you choose to take it that way. :rolleyes: Women do exactly the same thing, openly, every day. Nobody bats an eye. Mostly, it's because the women are talking about men...to other women.



Really? Because it sure as hell seems like an easy choice when some days it feels half of what I read in the "OT" section of every forum is some variant of man-bashing; "Men are pigs"; "ugh, typical man"; "my husband is sick, men are such whiny babies"; "men are dirty and disgusting";



Congrats for you, but the title of the thread was "HONEST OPINIONS." If you don't want HONEST opinions, or opinions from someone you consider an "outsider," I know there's a PM function somewhere on this forum. Feel free to use it.



And you think repeating "oh honey, I'm sorry you're going through this, your husband is an evil asshole that doesn't deserve you" for the ten millionth time is more helpful than me telling the person that they can CHOOSE to remove themselves from a situation they don't like, and that they're wrong for staying in a relationship because they're afraid that THEY would have to make sacrifices? So far I've learned from this thread, 1) that the OP has stated herself that she's staying with this person she doesn't want to be with because she's afraid she won't be able to support herself if she leaves, and 2) that her friends have offered for give her a place to stay until she's back on her feet, which would negate point #1, but she is choosing to stay there. Which goes back to what I said...if you don't want to be there, PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND LEAVE.

Could I be more "nice?" Sure, I guess I could coo like everyone else, but that wouldn't be my "honest opinion" now would it?



"Tact" is subjective. :rolleyes:
Wow... Again it all goes back to your anger at women. You really do have a lot of pent up rage when it comes to women.

I never complain about my husband because I honestly have nothing to complain about. He is wonderful. He supports us financially, emotionally, etc. he is an amazing husband and father. I can't stress that enough.

But hardly anyone in this thread has said "oh i am sorry...keep where you are for money".

Most everyone has said to not let that be the deciding factor. Being scared to make it on your own is NORMAL.

But really it seems to all come dow. To a deep seeded anger you have with women in general. You have a lOt of resentment and anger towards females and I hope you are able to find some peace with it because it really seems to be all consuming for you. So much anger
 
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I'll say it again. It's not that easy.
I never said it was easy. I said it was a CHOICE. It was, still is, and always will be a CHOICE.

Statements like that scream that you know nothing about emotional abuse.
If you only knew the half of it.

And seriously with the gianormous chip on your shoulder on this subject I question if it was you who was wronged or if your wife just got away.
Aaaand there it is. Right on cue.
 

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Okay, okay, this has gone WAY past where it ever should have.
Don't make me derail the thread with more Best in Show clips.
 

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No, I really don't. I have an anger toward the general mentality of most (not all) women in our culture when it comes to men.



I made the choice to take very...very harsh sacrifices and remove myself from the situation. Same as I suggest to the OP. I understand that, emotionally, women tend to have a harder time leaving bad relationships. I DO understand that. But people tend to coo, and coddle, and REINFORCE the person's belief that they don't have a choice, even though they aren't doing it consciously.

Alright... I can accept this. Not that it matters lol. But really i agree that we shouldn't just coddle and coo but I think
Most here are telling her to leave. I have to cOmmend ambers desire to work
It out. She isn't just giving up at the first sign of trouble. There was a time in this series of events where i thought everyone was telling her to give up too quickly. With time i have changed my opinion and I am not one to say " just leave him... He is a man jerk".
 

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Or maybe you're just so insecure and biased that you choose to take it that way. :rolleyes: Women do exactly the same thing, openly, every day. Nobody bats an eye. Mostly, it's because the women are talking about men...to other women.


Really? Because it sure as hell seems like an easy choice when some days it feels half of what I read in the "OT" section of every forum is some variant of man-bashing; "Men are pigs"; "ugh, typical man"; "my husband is sick, men are such whiny babies"; "men are dirty and disgusting";
Funny thing is, that you are sooooo upset about women generalizing men... and you come on here and do exactly the same. What's your point? Actually, nevermind, I don't care to know.



Congrats for you, but the title of the thread was "HONEST OPINIONS." If you don't want HONEST opinions, or opinions from someone you consider an "outsider," I know there's a PM function somewhere on this forum. Feel free to use it.



And you think repeating "oh honey, I'm sorry you're going through this, your husband is an evil asshole that doesn't deserve you" for the ten millionth time is more helpful than me telling the person that they can CHOOSE to remove themselves from a situation they don't like, and that they're wrong for staying in a relationship because they're afraid that THEY would have to make sacrifices? So far I've learned from this thread, 1) that the OP has stated herself that she's staying with this person she doesn't want to be with because she's afraid she won't be able to support herself if she leaves, and 2) that her friends have offered for give her a place to stay until she's back on her feet, which would negate point #1, but she is choosing to stay there. Which goes back to what I said...if you don't want to be there, PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND LEAVE.

Could I be more "nice?" Sure, I guess I could coo like everyone else, but that wouldn't be my "honest opinion" now would it?



"Tact" is subjective. :rolleyes:
Sure, you can be honest, but you don't have to be an @sshat to do so. But then we are at having tact again... and some have it, some don't.
 
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