Thinking about a Mac?

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Not entirely. I still think that with the whole "Macs don't get viruses" thing (which people have been saying for years), someone should have been successful by now. I'm not saying it won't happen. I just don't really think it's because people haven't been trying.





I don't hate Windows computers. I've had a Dell Latitude laptop for 3 years and it's still running fine, aside from slowing down a little. I use my computer constantly and brought it to class everyday. I was just careful about not downloading random things. I also never did the defragment thing in all that time or made any repairs, aside from new power cords, battery, and keyboard. I was very happy with Dell's customer service. I got the laptop as part of my scholarship and I never even had to put any money into it since the warranty covered it
Nice Ninja Edit by the way :)

I'm sure there's been some people trying to figure out how to make a virus for Macs, I honestly don't know why they haven't had a good one yet. I'm no hacker and I don't even know C++ (my 'coding' is limited to Matlab), so don't expect me to try to do it myself :p
 

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Nice Ninja Edit by the way :)

I'm sure there's been some people trying to figure out how to make a virus for Macs, I honestly don't know why they haven't had a good one yet. I'm no hacker and I don't even know C++ (my 'coding' is limited to Matlab), so don't expect me to try to do it myself :p
:D I'm just trying to say that I am not at all a Mac "fangirl" or anything. I never even had an Ipod before I bought this. I had a Zune.
I do like this better than any previous laptops I've had, though.
 

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:D I'm just trying to say that I am not at all a Mac "fangirl" or anything. I never even had an Ipod before I bought this. I had a Zune.
I do like this better than any previous laptops I've had, though.
I'm not a microsoft fanboy either... I just think that it's a better choice than apple.

I don't even have an mp3 player aside from my laptop and my desktop... I'm old school that way:D
 
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Real world boils down to what is the easiest and most trouble free for someone who ISN'T versed in the eccentrities of computers and ISN'T looking to sit down and build their own computer. What will give you the best service with the fewest amount of headaches and is the most intuitive to use is the best machine.

I've spent way too many years having to screw around with Windows in the law offices I've worked in. Thankfully no decent law office uses Windows word processing programs, so at least I was spared that trauma, but from my experience . . . well the Mac is incomparably more intuitive and rational. And I haven't had any headaches from my Mac.
 

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Hm.

I've always had Windows machines, since I was about five years old. :p I can count three times in 13 years that I've had serious computer issues (and surprisingly, I was easier on computers as a five year old than I am now) and weirdly enough, every single one of my computers has been an OLD hand-me-down from my father when he got tired of it and decided he wanted the latest and greatest.

My lastest machine that died was my laptop, an old Sony Vaio (formerly my dad's) that finally conked out after about 8 years. None of my PCs ever had major issues, though I replaced one hard drive on an old, old machine. The computer I'm using right now is probably 5 years old and still runs great. It's not a hardcore gaming machine like I've been lusting over, but I can play Warcraft and run browsers and IM, and that's practically all I use the computer for anyway.

Buuut... While I think I'll be sticking to windows/linux PCs for my desktops, I'm really considering blowing a ton of money on a Macbook. I just love some of the features and I really like how awesome they are with wireless connections.
 

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I'm so glad newspaper offices and designers use macs. Every office I've worked in was all macs. And it's cool to go to the big dailies and see wall to wall macs. And as for the prices...well I get the teacher discount because my parents are teachers :p
 

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I get irritaed when people proclaim something that is quite obviously wrong; PC = Personal Computer. Nothing about what OS they run, what they look like, etc. Macs are PC's. Windows machines are PC's. The Commodore 64 was a PC.
In this context, you're wrong. the current context is mac vs pc. I thought i was pretty clear earlier in addressing this that you can by various definitions stretch "pc" to mean anything. can we get back to the real issues and stop fussing over nomenclature?

Well, in addition to everything apple doing being proprietary
hardware wise, not software wise. Besides... http://www.psystar.com/index.php

, windows is the better machine for the exact reasons you just stated: They have to keep in mind that there are others out there, and that there is no possible way that one company could make every type of component out there on par that companies that specialize them can do. So you know what? They didn't try, and they let people pick and choose the components they want to.
Right... so windows gives you an OS which they have no possible way of assuring works well with whatever Frankensteins machine you've cobbled together. And Apple gives you an entire experience, and a good one at that. They give you the whole kit-and-kaboodle in one neat, well tested, pretty, usable, package. I'm glad we agree here.

And with you throwing in some apple marketing, I'll respond to the same: Think Different. Isn't using your own, personalized setup that you picked to exactly suit your needs thinking more differently than using the exact same computer as everyone else? Or perhaps I'm wrong and 'think different' really means to conform to what one company wants your computing experience to be.
Apple does think different. They never said you have to agree with them. Actually I dont think Steve Jobs cares what you think. He's gonna give you his idea of what a good computing experience should be, and you know what? He's onto something. But you're always free to think whatever the heck you want.

Mac is also a random company putting together parts to make a computer you bring home in a box.
They're manufacturing the machines, the core os, and the software. And engineering a clean, reliable experience. They're not choosing inferior products based on whether they can shave off 12 cents per machine.

Also, things do work together, adhering to standards set by industry. Believe it or not, manufacturers are good at what they do.
riiight.

Higher quality? Better programmers care about it? I honestly have no idea how you would come to that conclusion.
In my experience

Reformatting every 3-4 months is only something that needs to be done if you go out and actively try to get a virus. Really, that's insane! I went 6 YEARS without a format, and that's with me being a retarded 13 year old and doing some horrible things as far as security practices go. The only reason you have to 'deal with the computer rather than doing the tasks you bought it to do' is if you have no idea what the hell you're doing.
Obviously I push my machine to much more difficult limits than do most people... However you superimpose your experiences over those that the average person sees...

I'm not saying they're better because I use one. I'm saying they're better because you don't need to spend a fortune to get a machine to check your email, and they have greater functionality.
I used to have that same philosophy... I liked the "freedom" of the pc... But it always nagged at me that the experience should be better... The fact is that for me (and most people who give apple a real go) the entire experience of owning a mac is better than owning a "windows machine"
 

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I prefer this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
I have to laugh at how they portray compatibility (not to mention the Japanese girl isn't bad looking ;))
I just got Rickrolled

:(

Oh, BTW. Windows today doesn't contain a shred of DOS. Windows XP and Vista are both built of Windows NT. NT in it's various versions was produced alongside Windows 3.1/95/98/ME, and was coded basically from the ground up.
 

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I just got Rickrolled

:(

Oh, BTW. Windows today doesn't contain a shred of DOS. Windows XP and Vista are both built of Windows NT. NT was run alongside Windows 3.1/95/98/ME, and was coded basically from the ground up.
Dude, being rick rolled sucks. Glad I didn't click on it.
 

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I have to admit.... I am pretty sure I will go Mac, now the choice becomes which one?? LOL I have lots of time to shop, the program is only offered every few months and I just missed the last run...

So I am going to start "window" shopping..... LMAO (No pun intended) I want to start by going to a few places locally that sell them and trying them out, also seeing what kind of service they offer. We are allowed to purchase the computer anywhere we wish, get them to do a Purchase Order that my employer will then issue payment for.
 

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Right... so windows gives you an OS which they have no possible way of assuring works well with whatever Frankensteins machine you've cobbled together. And Apple gives you an entire experience, and a good one at that. They give you the whole kit-and-kaboodle in one neat, well tested, pretty, usable, package. I'm glad we agree here.
With the exception of the precedence they have set for themselves, I agree with you. It sounds bad in theory. Too bad it actually works in reality, or else your argument might hold some water :(


Apple does think different. They never said you have to agree with them. Actually I dont think Steve Jobs cares what you think. He's gonna give you his idea of what a good computing experience should be, and you know what? He's onto something. But you're always free to think whatever the heck you want.
I never said that apple doesn't think different. They do; they've somehow convinced a lot of people to spend far more than a product is worth on it.


They're manufacturing the machines, the core os, and the software. And engineering a clean, reliable experience. They're not choosing inferior products based on whether they can shave off 12 cents per machine.
That's still a random company putting together parts to make a computer you bring home in a box. It just happens to be an expensive box with a stylized apple on the side.

riiight.


That's nice. I still have no idea how you would be able to say that every piece of software made for the mac is written by a superior coder than any program written for windows.

Obviously I push my machine to much more difficult limits than do most people... However you superimpose your experiences over those that the average person sees...
Obviously, I don't push my machine to any limits once so ever. Never mind that I built it so that it can handle Crysis on high with the only hiccups being in large, screen filling explosions. Never mind that, nope.

Also nevermind that for a long time, I wasn't pushing my old computer to it's limits because I knew it couldn't handle anything. And I still would never switch.

I used to have that same philosophy... I liked the "freedom" of the pc... But it always nagged at me that the experience should be better... The fact is that for me (and most people who give apple a real go) the entire experience of owning a mac is better than owning a "windows machine"
So you would rather have a pretty interface over being able to control what your computer does and what hardware it runs? I can't possibly see any way I could make that same decision.
 
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That's nice. I still have no idea how you would be able to say that every piece of software made for the mac is written by a superior coder than any program written for windows.
Pssst . . . Mit probably knows more about coding than any combination of any knowledgeable experts on the board ;)
 
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I just got Rickrolled

:(

Oh, BTW. Windows today doesn't contain a shred of DOS. Windows XP and Vista are both built of Windows NT. NT in it's various versions was produced alongside Windows 3.1/95/98/ME, and was coded basically from the ground up.
Good to know . . . even though I will only be using Windows when I'm on someone else's machine ;)

Probably shouldn't admit this, but I learned on a DOS machine . . .

Nik . . . . LMAO! Really, though, we should cut him some slack . . . he IS Zoomer's brother :D
 

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Pssst . . . Mit probably knows more about coding than any combination of any knowledgeable experts on the board ;)
That doesn't change my stance at all. I don't care who you are; there is NO way to say that every piece of windows software is written by inferior coders, just as it is impossible to say that every piece of mac software is written by superior coders.
 

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Dude, being rick rolled sucks. Glad I didn't click on it.
The Mets got rick rolled. It was greatness.

And someone's personal knowledge of coding has no influence on whether a company has good coders unless they actually work for that company. I doubt he has Apple's source codes lying around somewhere.
 
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GO, knowing Mit, and the little that he's explained to me (and, by the way, he's VERY good at explaining so that even an end-user like me can grasp what he's talking about - a rare talent), it wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't dissected some of those codes already :eek:
 

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