Serious trainers and dog sport events (or at least agility trials, which is about all I can speak to with any real authority)?
Those are in fact the kinds of people and places I'm referring to (with the exception of agility trials, which I've never been to). Not community pet events, not pet store training, etc. And yes, I have still seen accidents happen. Not the norm, brief and quickly corrected, but there... and again, I doubt I have a sixth sense for picking places where dogs occasionally get close to one another. Reactive dogs are given more space, but it is frequently a deliberate accommodation on the part of people running classes and events and on the part of other participants.
It is possible that I'm just on high alert for potential dog crossover situations because my dog gets loud when other dogs get too close (4-6 feet and he will start to get more excitable). The potential for dogs getting near one another is less rare than the actuality of it.
Putting the blame on the owner of Dog 2 because Dog 2 will snap and snapping will make Dog 1 turn it into a fight when Dog 1 was the one being rude in the first place is ridiculous.
Okay, although no one was doing that anyway.
I mean, I don't think it's cool for someone to laugh if their dog snarks at someone else's dog. But I don't think it's cool for someone to allow their dog to get in another dog's face, either, especially a dog who doesn't tolerate snark. It just feels like saying "I can't believe how rude people are!" while... being rude.
Unfortunately it's not a complaint about "rudeness" - it's what the sentiment could lead to. It's not that the dog doing the correcting is being "rude", it's not (only) that it's "rude" to laugh at your dog biting another dog... definitely not that I personally allow my dog to be rude and then complain about the result.
You can read that into it if you want, by all means, but when I'm making direct statements to the contrary... well.
The problem is that if you take the position that it's a good thing if your dog bites the other dog and then allow a fight to be triggered when you could see a bite coming and could have intervened instead, you're putting both dogs at risk of an actual fight that could do actual damage. Yeah, the other owner did that too, I know. Stand there blaming them if you want, or do something about it and keep the dogs safe.
The problem is people who think the best solution to a dog invading their dog's space is to stand back and let their dog go after it.
Bottom line, I don't find it any more appropriate to freely allow a dog under my care to physically correct another dog that is annoying them than I would to freely allow a child under my care to physically correct another kid that was annoying them. Even if the other dog/kid is being a gigantic brat. Especially if I don't know the other dog/kid and how they will react. I'm not going to get too mad at them if it happens, but I will be upset at myself. When these things happen, I
should be trying to get in there and stop the situation from deteriorating, because I am a responsible party, even if the brat is not mine to herd by right and it's really their
person's fault that the overall situation is happening to begin with.
Leaving a situation generating tension in your dog to two impulsive, unreasoning critters to sort out themselves is prematurely self-absolving and frankly risky if you have a vested interest in keeping your dog (if not the other) puncture wound free.
your dog is unusually
easy to annoy (I am not talking about tolerant dogs that will snark occasionally, or arthritic dogs that don't want things jumping on them, blah blah), then sure, it's not at all a bad idea to ask yourself why that might be, and try and work on that with them for their own sake rather than chalking it up to how annoying soooo many other dogs are. Not because it's better for people with bratty dogs, but because the more adaptable and tolerant your dog can learn to be, the easier things are going to be for them under whatever circumstances may arise for them.
It's not your dog's responsibility, or your responsibility, to teach other dogs their manners. By all means, yell at the owner. Nothing I've said should be giving you indication that I care even a little about that.
Won a hero disc USA contest for some free plastic- we have a few comps coming up so I am super excited! The pups are going to be very happy. I never win contests!
Putting this here because it's dog job related.
I found a couple listings that sound like hard work but promising. One is a position as a grooming apprentice/bather and the other as a dog daycare attendant. Not sure I know which one would suit me better - a groomer did let me shadow her for a few weeks before though - but it can't hurt to apply to them both.
Aaaaand.... to you two I want to say congrats, good luck and sorry that a debate is currently hogging the thread.