Should women have to register for Selective Service too?

Should women have to register for the selective service at 18 like men have to?

  • Yes, women should have to register.

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • No, women should not have to register.

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • No one should have to register

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • Total voters
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I was watching Dress My Nest and a sorority was getting their common room redone. Their sorority colors were brown and that pinkish beige color . . . they called it mode/maud (sp????)

But, doing the white print in that color would make it moot, since you'd be able to see it on the white background of the original post.
 

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I get paid less than the females I work with...course in veterinary medicine that's not surprising as the field is dominated by women but still, I get $7 an hour and the new girl gets $7.25 an hour and I've three years experience on her.

Granted I"m just working there for the experience and plan to quit soon as I get in vet school, but men making more than women isn't an across the board thing.

Really? I've never heard of this before. That's good, then.
Yah, which is why I can't be drafted (under the current rules, that is. It wouldn't surprise me if congress just went '**** it' and tossed them out one day). Last male of the family to carry on the name.




As for the background color, just call it Chazenta.
 

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Another thing about the last male rule: If the dad is gone, and all of the sons in the family are deployed (say there's 3 of them) and two are killed, the third remaining son gets shipped back home.
 
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I'd honestly like to be earning a dollar for every dollar a man makes first - THEN I'd discuss this. :D (And I'd agree that yes, we should also be required if men are, too...)
I read this thread through a while ago...and have been thinking a bit about it. There are different issues at work here, and a lot of these are also somewhat individualized.

To answer the first part, I really don't know if I agree with the SS for anyone, but, maybe since I live in a country where I don't (didn't) have to sign up, I can't say for sure how I would feel about it.

As far as equal rights....I suspect a lot of the 'polls' are looking at jobs like are mentioned in this thread, administration, education, and other fields along those lines. As some of you know, I'm a toolmaker by trade, and worked in machine shops, toolrooms, and factories all along. I've worked with a couple women machinists...both were as good as the guys, but realized that they didn't always have the same strengths (talking physically here). I never gave either of them a hard time about it, nor downplayed it at all.....since I'm a bigger guy, I often got asked to give a lift, and so what? They know how to run the machine, make the parts, make calculations as needed, same as the rest of us.....if I didn't give a lift, they could have used a lift platform or forklift whatever, it was just quicker and easier to have an extra set of hands.

Over the years, we've had lots of girls hanging out here, between the horses, dogs, and just friends etc in general. A few (ok, very few) have expressed mild interest in some of the work I do. A couple have tried running my excavator a time or two, and a couple have tried a bit of welding. I have told a few of them that if they are interested, to look into it, in the trades, often women turn out to be as good, or better, than the guys. (And yea, everywhere I worked they got paid the exact same money too!)

I've often heard that women welders are VERY good at tig welding, due to the extra dexterity and 'nimbleness' (is that a word) that they have. As of yet, I don't know any in person, but from other things that I have seen, see no reason why it couldn't be so. Just yesterday, I was talking to a fellow chazzer that wants to try some welding next time she's here to visit.

In the other field that I'm familiar with, heavy equipment, any women that I've known or heard about were always highly regarded. Often they are easier on equipment, but still make it work. (Don't rev engines quite as high, easy on clutches for example, etc.) Just last week we had a lady driver delivering gravel in a tri-axle dump truck, she did a great job, placed it right where we asked, was easy to talk to, and did a good job on the truck. (It was a brand new truck too!) I don't know how her pay was, but from what I do know, I hope it was equal.

Sorry for the lengthy post.....
 

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#47
No way in HELL would I ever join up or leave my children because the Gov't thinks I should. My place is mothering them...and being there for them.

So again...no way would I want to serve, or enjoy being TOLD to do so...ever. No way would I leave my children for months or years...ever. No way.

Nor would I quietly allow them to claim my ONLY son. Frickin Rumplestiltskins.
 

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Oh, yes, registering is entirely forced. If it wasn't, no one would sign up. No one WANTS to suddenly be called away to a foreign land to get shot at while their family is back home worrying about them, but every guy in this country knows that if the time comes, he'll have to do his duty and serve if called.
 

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I think women should be registered for the selective service. They do everything men do in the Army nowadays, including frontline combat positions. Granted, the machismo aspects of some old generals makes them keep women out of "combat" mos's like infantry, but they can still do "combat support" mos's like Military Police, who, like it or not, may as well be a combat MOS.

I can also tell you from my experience that in the field the Army is very much coed, down to not having separate male/female hooches. Nearly all of the females don't look at themselves as females, they see themselves as soldiers. How to the males look at that? They respect them and look at them as sisters.

The military is probably the most equal thing in American culture. Because women do get paid the same for every job a man can do.

ps- made my reply before reading the thread.



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I think that you honestly just run into too much complication if women are made to sign up for the SS.

Men, in my opinion, are more useful in the military. In general, men are bigger and stronger.
And many of the best officers that I've served under have been women. Yeah men have the whole big bad stinky man-bear-pig alpha male I'makiller thing going on, but women can think. I'd like to think I'm fairly intellectual as far as a man goes, but I'm still blown away by the ratio of women with high GT's as opposed to men with high GT's.


Oh, yes, registering is entirely forced. If it wasn't, no one would sign up. No one WANTS to suddenly be called away to a foreign land to get shot at while their family is back home worrying about them, but every guy in this country knows that if the time comes, he'll have to do his duty and serve if called.
Honestly, I think most of the kids in my generation have no clue what SS is. I'm still in touch with alot of my friends from high school and they are clueless. Kids nowadays (and I'm barely grown up from one, so I speak from experience) lead very sheltered lives.
 
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there's already provisions in place for this. The last surviving male of the family can't get drafted, the only one with a job can't get drafted, single fathers can't get drafted, etc.
IF they kept that the same for women YES! But if not NO. Being a single mother who would take care of Beverly if I got drafted? ANd in all reality I think if the woman has a child period single or not they should be exempt. To many guys in the main draft age range are to immature to handle a child and MOST of the children would still be infant age which means they are breastfeeding age. And im sorry but I shouldnt have to stop breastfeeding my child becuase Im drafted and the military doesnt think the same as I do (relativly speaking since some women breastfeed later then others.) That is a main aspect of drafting women though.
 

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IF they kept that the same for women YES! But if not NO. Being a single mother who would take care of Beverly if I got drafted? ANd in all reality I think if the woman has a child period single or not they should be exempt. To many guys in the main draft age range are to immature to handle a child and MOST of the children would still be infant age which means they are breastfeeding age. And im sorry but I shouldnt have to stop breastfeeding my child becuase Im drafted and the military doesnt think the same as I do (relativly speaking since some women breastfeed later then others.) That is a main aspect of drafting women though.
I doubt it would ever happen to tell you the truth, but I agree with your points about new and single moms not getting drafted. I know it would destroy my wife if she would have to go through that (granted it wouldn't because I'm in, but hypothetically).

I've also seen some moms get treated really badly by the army. I've seen some be treated wonderfully though, so I really can't decide.

I think the system we have now works fairly well.
 
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Oh, yes, registering is entirely forced. If it wasn't, no one would sign up. No one WANTS to suddenly be called away to a foreign land to get shot at while their family is back home worrying about them, but every guy in this country knows that if the time comes, he'll have to do his duty and serve if called.
I heard a commercial on the radio advertising it to get people to sign up. The way they explained it you only have to if you want to join certain organizations or for certain jobs. There was some sort of incentive to sign up. I dont remember what it was.
 

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I doubt it would ever happen to tell you the truth, but I agree with your points about new and single moms not getting drafted. I know it would destroy my wife if she would have to go through that (granted it wouldn't because I'm in, but hypothetically).

I've also seen some moms get treated really badly by the army. I've seen some be treated wonderfully though, so I really can't decide.

I think the system we have now works fairly well.
I doubt it will too but we all know how well the higher ups think about the real aspects of life :rolleyes: THe only reason truthfully it would bother me is having to raise my child. if I didnt have her and walker I wouldnt. I actually considered going into the military for K9 work. I have never directly dealt with teh military as a mom though. Most of my friends are in or going in but none of them are parents or female so yea.
 

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I am so confused. How did I not know this? When and where do you go to register?
You're mailed something that you have to return
If you don't, you cannot get financial aid for college and all the other things that were mentioned in this thread
 

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I doubt it will too but we all know how well the higher ups think about the real aspects of life :rolleyes: THe only reason truthfully it would bother me is having to raise my child. if I didnt have her and walker I wouldnt. I actually considered going into the military for K9 work. I have never directly dealt with teh military as a mom though. Most of my friends are in or going in but none of them are parents or female so yea.


Pvt Murphy's Law ftmfw LOL


Anyway, I am an MP. Trust me, if you want to actually be involved with raising your daughter, you would need to make roughly e6 and land a day job to do it. That will take at least four years.

MP's work shift most of the time, the only time you get a dayjob automatically is when you're pregnant. I've seen a few single moms have their lives pretty much ruined by the army.

Sad, but true. I can talk to you more offline about it if you'd like. Don't listen to those **** recruiters, they'll do anything to make numbers.
 

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