Retriever Hi Protien Dog Food

[Brattina88]

First off I do not believe there are euthed animals in dog food, thats a peta thing imo. Yes I have seen the court cases ect. It screams Peta to me.

Here is a link from the FDA. It is a little outdated for my liking, but it is an actual, truthful study by the Federal Drug Administration center for veterinary medicine. No PETA crap, here.

I don't know about you, but that is a lot of yes's. TOO much for my liking! I would never have anything to do with any of these brand names or companies, but that is JMHO.
My aunt lives near a dog food plant. She said she has witnessed vans picking up roadkill, to put in the dog food. That is DISGUSTING !!




When people at work or whatever ask my opinion on Dog Food I don't say "Brand X is the best, its what I feed my dogs, its what you should feed yours too!" Instead, I like to give them the easiest/best information I've found and let them educate themselves. I help, but when they make a good decision on their own, its so much better ! Linky: Ingredients to Avoid

In that being said - I'm glad you came here for advise! Sounds like your getting some good tips!

 

[Dekka]

ITs not from PETA. (hate peta and the HSUS) Its from a studies a vet did. Others have done it too, and noticed levels of the drug used to euth pets in food. Pentobarbitol is the drug that is used to euthanize does not break down during the rendering process. The following dog foods have tested positive for pentobarbitol...

Nutro
Ol'Roy
Trailblazer
Dad's
Weis Value
Super G
Richfood
Pet Essentials
America's Choice
Ken-L-Ration
Heinz
Kibble Select
Champ Chunx
ProPlan
Reward
PetGold

Again, not all brands of foods were tested, and not all products in the lines of each manufacturer contained residue. The study also went on to say that pentobarbital residue is capable of surviving the rendering process.

"Meat meal can contain the boiled down flesh of animals we would find unacceptable for consumption. This can include zoo animals, road kill, and 4-D (dead, diseased, disabled, dying) livestock. Most shockingly, this also can include dogs and cats"


some linkies.. http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html

http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

http://www.petcaretips.net/euthanized_pets.html

 

[Claybuster]

Protein can be a tricky area with plenty of deception. To a dog, there are proteins that have value, and there are proteins with a biological-value of zero. In comparing two foods, one with 27% protein and the other hypothetically say 42%, it can be difficult to determine which is actually the better food without careful examination of the ingredients. If the protein core of the 27% food is comprised with better than 87% animal source proteins, and the 42% food only has 50% of that 42% animal source, IMO the 27% food would be clearly superior to the other. The relationship between animal source proteins and the protein core is going to determine
which food delivers more for the dog and delivers more bang for the buck.

Charlie

 

[Dekka]

The ones I was mentioning are pretty much all from animal protien. And its the digestibility not the source that is improtant, and that the food contains all the essential amino acids.

 

[showpug]

The ones I was mentioning are pretty much all from animal protien. And its the digestibility not the source that is improtant, and that the food contains all the essential amino acids.

I could be off base here but isn't it true that the protein that comes from plants/grains is not complete protein? In other words, isn't it lacking certain amino acids? I thought that animal protein was the only complete protein source and if you ate plant or grain based proteins then they would have to be paired up with other things to make a "complete" protein, for example, rice and beans eaten together at the same meal make a complete protein and complete the amino acid profile. Eaten alone, they are neither. So, wouldn't that indeed make the source of the protein very important? Lots of foods contain barley which is extremely high in gluten (protein found in grain) but that doesn't mean the protein derived from that barley is good for and biologically available to the dog. So, even if something is very digestable doesn't mean the dog will be able to utilize and absorb the protein.

 

[okiegirl]

I got it from Tractor Supply, I was in looking at lawn care stuff and shimmied on over to the dog food selections and figured it wouldn't hurt to try it. It's a 50lb bag of dog food.

Abstrax

If you're shopping at Tractor supply you should be able to get Diamond Naturals - loads better ingredients than the other foods you mentioned and usually about $19.99/40 lbs.

 

[Fran27]

Seems to me that that food isn't good... and Iams cans are not great either Most of it is meat broth...

As usual, I'll just say that low quality foods often end up being more expensive or equivalent because you have to feed so much more of it. Just checking Iam's site I would have to feed twice the amount of Iam's every day than I feed of Innova. Doesn't seem like such a good deal to me.

Wondering though, if you're feeding partly raw anyway, why not switch completely to raw? I think my main concerns with your diet is that it might not be as balanced as it should... You might want to add some organ meat in that diet.

Anyway, Innova EVO has the most protein I know of dry-food wise with about 43% (http://www.evopet.com/products/default.asp?id=1485). It's about 520kcal/cup also, compared to the 300ish of most of supermarket foods.

 

[OutlineACDs]

If you are going to buy dog food at Tractor Supply, buy the Diamond Natural line of food. It's the best thing they sell there and Diamond Naturals is not expensive dog food, $20-$25 around here for a 40 lb bag and the ingredients are much better than the Retriever brand food. Diamond Naturals is still not a top of the line food, but it's middle of the road. Better than a lot of foods out there.

 

[Wimble Woof]

Just a quick little tidbit about meat being the first ingredient...
Sure its great to see a named meat listed first, but what follows it is equally if not more important, as the meat is listed with the water content included. Once it is dried out ( to become a kibble) in reality the meat is moved further down on the list.

 

[Fran27]

Yep. The list gives the main ingredients first before processing.. hen the first ingredient is meat, you're going to lose 70% of its weight once it's processed... that's not too much meat in the end.

Foods with meal in the first ingredients are usually better (specific meat meal that is, not 'bone meal', 'by-products meal' or 'meat meal').