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And also (there are 100's more)...

why do you think there are SO many other religions.

If there is only ONE true god, why do you think different parts of the world believe different things??

Why would god favour one area over another - as religions are more often than not geographical?
I think of it as this way. In math, you have some answers that are closer to the correct answer than others. For example, 2 + 2 = 5 is obviously closer to the right answer than 2 + 2 = 20. Right? So, some other religions are closer to the Truth than others.
 
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Oh, oh, oh!!

And other stuff that baffles me - I hope someone can shed some light.

Creationism vs evolution.

Also - dinosaurs.

I remember our old RE teacher didn't believe in dinosaurs. She didn't believe in them!! Never mind all the fossils etc etc..

Sorry - I know this is a tangent, but it FASCINATES me.
LOL! Dizzy. these are points I've had 'discussions' on with several people who believed dinosaurs didn't exist and Creation was the only way because the bible said so. And my points to them were as follows :D

1) Creation vs. Evolution: Who cares.....isn't who started it all the important point?

2) Dinosaurs existed.....deal or don't....I've got my own fossils to prove it.

In all honesty, I'd say the vast minority of christians try to deny the existance of dinosaurs and it's only because the bible doesn't say they existed. Funny thing about that is the bible doesn't say North America exists...and yet it's North America where my butt is parked ;) ('I think, therefore I am')

And these are my 'deep thoughts'. I need a nap now :D
 
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Oh, oh, oh!!

And other stuff that baffles me - I hope someone can shed some light.

Creationism vs evolution.

Also - dinosaurs.

I remember our old RE teacher didn't believe in dinosaurs. She didn't believe in them!! Never mind all the fossils etc etc..

Sorry - I know this is a tangent, but it FASCINATES me.
I wish I could find the site again, but dinosaurs did exist, and the bible does actually suggest this.
 

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Someone told me once that there were never any dinosaurs, God just put the fossils in the ground for people to play with and get excited over, like some really morbid Easter egg hunt.
 

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Someone told me once that there were never any dinosaurs, God just put the fossils in the ground for people to play with and get excited over, like some really morbid Easter egg hunt.
You really should watch some Bill Hicks ;)
 

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I think of it as this way. In math, you have some answers that are closer to the correct answer than others. For example, 2 + 2 = 5 is obviously closer to the right answer than 2 + 2 = 20. Right? So, some other religions are closer to the Truth than others.
I really don't understand what you mean by that answer to my question.
 

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Tessa, I have no idea what you meant in you answer to me now. Are you saying it is ok that a very religious Jewish family is cast to hell for not believing in Jesus? I really don't get you?
 
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I really don't understand what you mean by that answer to my question.
Some religions are closer to the truth than others. Not all are completely wrong. But obviously not all are completely right. Some have a long way to go to be closer to being right, while others are pretty much close to the truth.
 
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Tessa, I have no idea what you meant in you answer to me now. Are you saying it is ok that a very religious Jewish family is cast to hell for not believing in Jesus? I really don't get you?
Although there are different denominations in Christianity, they all believe in Jesus Christ, because that is what makes you a Christian.

Not one person will ever lead a sinless life. God is merciful, but he is also just. You must pay for those sins. That, or accept that Jesus was sent to pay your fine and give you eternal life.

Of course I'm not happy that nonbelievers are sent to Hell. I'll never be happy that people choose to go... but in order for God to be a just God, he must punish sin.

And that is why it is our jobs as Christians to spread God's word, to get more people to know and accept Jesus Christ into their hearts..
 

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Some religions are closer to the truth than others. Not all are completely wrong. But obviously not all are completely right. Some have a long way to go to be closer to being right, while others are pretty much close to the truth.

Yes - I understood that, but I have no idea how that relates to my question :D

About the geography of religions, and why there are so many religions.

And why would a god, who loves everyone, be happy to pick and choose or allow, which areas of the world worship him.

ie - favouring someparts of the world over others. Some areas of the world have NEVER EVER had christianity?

Why is that?
 

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I also wonder WHY god MUST punish sin?

For what reason?

What is his aim/goal in all this?

Really.... what is his motive? Does he have no motive? And whats the point in punishing sin AFTER it has happened? It won't make the world any better - noone is SURE we are punished - so we can behave how we like now and pay later (maybe) - which all in all doesn't amount to good leadership.. in my opinion.
 
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Yes - I understood that, but I have no idea how that relates to my question :D

About the geography of religions, and why there are so many religions.

And why would a god, who loves everyone, be happy to pick and choose or allow, which areas of the world worship him.

ie - favouring someparts of the world over others. Some areas of the world have NEVER EVER had christianity?

Why is that?
Other religions came about as a rebellion from God. Not knowing God, and deciding to make up their own religion.

It isn't about favoring parts of the world, it is about where His believers are located. And just because those people do not believe in God doesn't mean God doesn't look after them and care for them. Before I knew God, He still did some wonderful things for me.

If they don't have Christianity, it simply means we as Christians need to work harder to spread His word in those places.
 
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And that is why it is our jobs as Christians to spread God's word, to get more people to know and accept Jesus Christ into their hearts..
But spreading the "word" surely wouldn't make a *None believer* start beleiving.....anymore than a *None believer* saying that it doesn't exist to a Christian, would stop them for beleiving?
 
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I also wonder WHY god MUST punish sin?

For what reason?

What is his aim/goal in all this?

Really.... what is his motive? Does he have no motive? And whats the point in punishing sin AFTER it has happened? It won't make the world any better - noone is SURE we are punished - so we can behave how we like now and pay later (maybe) - which all in all doesn't amount to good leadership.. in my opinion.
I believe I have already explained this in this thread, but I will go ahead and do it again.

Imagine there is this murderer. Lets just say he murdered your own mother. It is time for the trial and it has been a few years. This murderer tells the judge he is sorry. But does that mean the judge should just let him go? Or should the murderer serve out his punishment for his crime. Surely, if the judge would be to just let him go, he would not be a fair and just judge. Same with God. God doesn't like to punish sin, but in order to be a fair and just God, he must.
 

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Other religions came about as a rebellion from God. Not knowing God, and deciding to make up their own religion.
But most of these civilisations existed WAAAAAAAYYY before christianity, as did their own religions?

Are you suggesting they just "made them up" on the spot one day? Even BEFORE the story of jesus, god and the bible ever existed in a humans mind?

I'm not having a go - I am questioning.
 
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But spreading the "word" surely wouldn't make a *None believer* start beleiving.....anymore than a *None believer* saying that it doesn't exist to a Christian, would stop them for beleiving?
People are saved every day because of those wonderful Christians working to spread God's word and lead other's to find Jesus. I know I was saved all becuase of one wonderful friend who talked and talked to me.. and never gave up. And was there for me through my struggles with believing.. People can and will be saved..it just takes some honest caring, just being there for people through their struggles, and leading them to God.
 
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But most of these civilisations existed WAAAAAAAYYY before christianity, as did their own religions?

Are you suggesting they just "made them up" on the spot one day? Even BEFORE the story of jesus, god and the bible ever existed in a humans mind?
Christianity wasn't the first religion. Christianity only came after God sent Jesus to die on the cross. Before that it was Judiasm.

Yes. People took the best guess they could to figure out why/how we got here and who they should be worshiping. They guessed according to their own human understanding, and they guessed wrong.
 

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Christianity wasn't the first religion. Christianity only came after God sent Jesus to die on the cross. Before that it was Judiasm.

Yes. People took the best guess they could to figure out why/how we got here and who they should be worshiping. They guessed according to their own human understanding, and they guessed wrong.

And before Judiasm? There were religions then to?

What make christians so sure that they aren't following one of these "made up" religions?

It's a bit of a gamble is it not?
 

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I don't believe quite the way Tessa does even though I'm also of the Christian faith.

I don't believe that you can spread the word to non-believers and get them to believe. Only God can change a heart. And only God truly knows what's in one's heart. God has all the power and reaches anybody, anywhere.

This is, not only my personal belief, but that of the church that I attended.
 

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