Proin--Killer of Dogs!! (Incontinence Drug)

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I am trying to bring this to the attention of all dog (cat) owners. There is a very long thread on this killer crap--about 165 posts---many because the dog owner found out too late/after the fact and their dog died or had to be put to sleep because of the damage from this drug for incontinence. Most of them died before having to be put down! And sometimes just 1 or 2 pills can do it. Please click on this link--read the entire thread--It is well worth it if will save a dog's life!! Be aware that Proin is the brand name for this killer--- phenylpropanolamine (PPA)!! This drug use to be for women until they started having strokes and dying. So the greedy pharmaceutical company dumped it on our pets to make their buck off of it!!!
Here is the link: http://www.i-love-dogs.com/forums/do...roin-read.html

I have never had a dog with incontinence but if I ever do---I will find a better natural way or if nothing works--I will put up with the incontinence (Maybe use diapers). I would rather have a 'wet' dog then a dead one!!! And believe me I know what it is like to mourn the death of a dog--I just had to put down my Corky because of kidney failure due to heart disease. (Nothing to do with this crap though-Proin/phenylpropanolamine)
 

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The OP is biased (just a tich...) and I think this is more of an advertisement for his/her site than an actual problem. Many many MANY animals (and people) do just fine on PPA. Very few have issues though the risk is increased by having previous cardiac problems (who would've thought...). Edit: Just to clarify the 'risk' is stroke in this case.

There's one study of it possibly showing a problem in dogs (with a very small sample size of 4...sooo yeh). A few more in human med and it was recalled at one time by the FDA (though apparently has been re-introduced since). Anyhow, with ANY medication, even the coveted 'natural' stuff, there's risks.

You don't hear about the success stories and all that jazz.

Besides, there's other options than just Proin. It's not like that's your ONLY option, just the most widely used.
 

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your link didn't work for me.

my dog has taken proin for years, and in truth, i'm not that concerned about it. reactionary "X KILLS!!!1one!" posts just don't do it for me. penicillin kills people every year too, but i'm still darned glad to have it around when i need it.
 

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The OP is biased (just a tich...) and I think this is more of an advertisement for his/her site than an actual problem.You couldn't be more wrong!! Just because I am a member of this other site --Why would I care about advertising it?!! I love dogs period and only want to save as many as I can!! AND PROIN IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM----If you had bothered to read the thread--you would have to know this!!! Many many MANY animals (and people) do just fine on PPA.Many many Many dogs are dying from this crap--If you would read all the posts of people that come to that forum to say --after the fact--I wish I had known about Proin before I gave it to my dog and it died!!! Very few have issuesI dare you to read the thread to the end and then say that!! though the risk is increased by having previous cardiac problems (who would've thought...). Edit: Just to clarify the 'risk' is stroke in this case.

There's one study of it possibly showing a problem in dogs (with a very small sample size of 4...sooo yeh).Oh Boy!! Who does these tests---The company selling the crap are behind it---greedy and could care less about your dog!! A few more in human med and it was recalled at one time by the FDA (though apparently has been re-introduced since). You are telling me this has been reintroduced for humans!!!! I do not believe that!!! Anyhow, with ANY medication, even the coveted 'natural' stuff, there's risks.

You don't hear about the success stories and all that jazz.I don't see how percentages have anything to do with this--If there were 100 that did okay and only 1 that died--would you still want to use the crap! And it isn't like this crap is given for a life/death situation in the 1st place!! How many dogs have to die before this crap gets seen for what it is---a killer! Using it is like playing Russian Roulette with your dog's life. My dog is like my child---No way am I taking a chance. Dogs are so innocent and dependent on you to take care of them. I actually felt a little sick to my stomach when I read this post because some dog owners are going to read your post and ignore this warning and it may be the death of their dog!

Besides, there's other options than just Proin. It's not like that's your ONLY option, just the most widely used.
Please go read the thread! It is a very convincing read and important!!
 

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I am trying to bring this to the attention of all dog (cat) owners. There is a very long thread on this killer crap--about 165 posts---many because the dog owner found out too late/after the fact and their dog died or had to be put to sleep because of the damage from this drug for incontinence. Most of them died before having to be put down! And sometimes just 1 or 2 pills can do it. Please click on this link--read the entire thread--It is well worth it if will save a dog's life!! Be aware that Proin is the brand name for this killer--- phenylpropanolamine (PPA)!! This drug use to be for women until they started having strokes and dying. So the greedy pharmaceutical company dumped it on our pets to make their buck off of it!!!
Here is the link: Is your dog on PROIN? READ THIS! - Dog Health & Nutrition - Dog Forums - I-Love-Dogs.com

I have never had a dog with incontinence but if I ever do---I will find a better natural way or if nothing works--I will put up with the incontinence (Maybe use diapers). I would rather have a 'wet' dog then a dead one!!! And believe me I know what it is like to mourn the death of a dog--I just had to put down my Corky because of kidney failure due to heart disease. (Nothing to do with this crap though-Proin/phenylpropanolamine)
Note that I fixed the link above. Should work now!
 

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Ungh...I refuse to get sucked into this beyond this post, so here we go:

AND PROIN IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM----If you had bothered to read the thread--you would have to know this!!!
Many many Many dogs are dying from this crap--If you would read all the posts of people that come to that forum to say --after the fact--I wish I had known about Proin before I gave it to my dog and it died!!!
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence and no amount of exclamation marks will change that.

Oh Boy!! Who does these tests---The company selling the crap are behind it---greedy and could care less about your dog!!
Right, because the people who peer review such articles are also in on the conspiracy of killing your dog.


I don't see how percentages have anything to do with this--If there were 100 that did okay and only 1 that died--would you still want to use the crap!
Yes...because people/animals die on all sorts of meds. No med is 100% perfect.

And it isn't like this crap is given for a life/death situation in the 1st place!!
Does something have to be life/death to be treated?

How many dogs have to die before this crap gets seen for what it is---a killer! Using it is like playing Russian Roulette with your dog's life. My dog is like my child---No way am I taking a chance. Dogs are so innocent and dependent on you to take care of them. I actually felt a little sick to my stomach when I read this post because some dog owners are going to read your post and ignore this warning and it may be the death of their dog!
Sensationalistic much?
 

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you know, it's not precisely true that leaking is not a life/death situation. medically, no. but there are a lot of owners in this world who have zero tolerance for that kind of thing and would put a dog down over it.

i've yet to see a dog have a bad reaction to proin, and we have quite a few dogs on it at the clinic where i work (we also use DES for some dogs, but that has risks too). not saying it doesn't happen- i'm sure it does. any time you introduce a drug into the body, there's the chance that something could go wrong. but i suspect the statement that "many many many dogs are dying" from proin is simply false.
 

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Ungh...I refuse to get sucked into this beyond this post, so here we go: Then you are sticking your head in the sand and are what you accused me of--BEING BIASED! You have no idea how many people have posted about the death of their dog because of Proin.





Anecdotal evidence is not evidence and no amount of exclamation marks will change that. Not sure what you mean here? I'm sure the people who have dogs die because of this would really disagree with you!



Right, because the people who peer review such articles are also in on the conspiracy of killing your dog. This doesn't even warrant an answer.




Yes...because people/animals die on all sorts of meds. No med is 100% perfect.



Does something have to be life/death to be treated? Do you really care about your dog(s)?! If the dog is not going to die because of incontinence, I sure am not going to give it a drug that has a BIG chance of killing it!:doh:



Sensationalistic much?
To me this is a life or death possibility and I think your attitude stinks! If a person's beloved dog dies from this Proin because you influenced their decision to use it--Will that affect you at all?!
 

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Poor Mr. Merc

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I just lost my 3 year old Greyhound to Proin.

He was prescribed Proin because we had been having recurring problems with him urinating extremely slowly, and also constantly leaking. Other than these two issues, he was as healthy as could be. We had a couple urinary analysis done, one with a catheter and neither of them came back as having an issue. We also had x-rays done to see if there was any sort of blockage such as kidney stones, but nothing was found either. They gave us some anti-inflammatory drugs to try out, but these did not help. So, after a couple months of dealing with him leaking everywhere we asked if there was anything else that could help, so they gave us the Proin.

We came home after the vet visit and gave him 1 Proin and took him on a short walk. After that I fed him his dinner and watched tv with him on the couch. He got up it looked like he was having hiccups. I came over to him and he was a little bit cold. I then decided to take him to the vet we got our prescription from to have him checked out. They were closed by the time we got there. He seemed to be doing ok at that point, no more hiccups and he felt warmer too. So we took him home and declared he was under observation. I kept him on the couch with me and he was comfortable for about an hour. He repositioned a couple times, but nothing out of the ordinary. He then started to pant, but it was a very odd looking pant, a lot more exaggeration with his mouth, and at times it looked like he was trying to throw up but couldn't. We then decided he had to be taken to the vet again to be checked out. I grabbed the leash, but this time he didn't get up. I thought maybe he was tired and so I picked him up and tried setting him on his feet. Nothing but dead weight. I then carried him down to my car and sped him to the nearest emegency vet as it was now around 11:00pm. The closest one to us was 20 minutes away. We made it there and had him rushed into the emegency room. They had to place him on a ventilator because he was not able to push air with his diaphragm, he was strictly pushing air with his mouth. They took x-rays from 3 angles to see if there was any sort of blockage and there wasn't. We told them the only thing out of the ordinary was the Proin. They went through the side effects and called poison control and said they had never heard of a dog losing control of their respiratory system. The company who makes Proin actually picked up the bill for the call to poison control, is this normal or are they just trying to get on my good side? They kept him sedated and on a vent until early the next morning. They removed the tube after he woke up to see if he would start breathing on his own. He didn't, and he still didn't have any control of anything past his neck either. They attempted this one more time in the afternoon, but he still couldn't breath on his own. We had to have him put down to end his suffering.

They told us they could not tell what had caused such a rapid decline. They said it could have been caused by a tick, but they could not find any bites or ticks on him. They said it could have been from some kind of trauma to the neck. They defended Proin as much as they could though. They said by now the effects of Proin should be out of his system. The only thing that points to Proin are his increased blood pressure and heart rate. To me, it had to be Proin, we did nothing out of the ordinary besides giving him that one pill. I've lost my Mr. Mercury and I'll always miss him.
 

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Another senseless death-when will vets wake-up??

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Dear FranticFritz-

I just read your post about the death of your greyhound Mercury, to Proin. I was in your shoes just a week ago when our grey Twiggy died after having 2 doses of Proin. Please know that you truly are not alone.

I have found since Twiggy's death due to Proin that vets easily make excuses and generalizations when it comes to Proin--in fact the very vet who prescribed the drug to Twiggy called me the other day to tell me how sorry he was for our famiy's loss and that he doubted very much if Proin contributed to it! An example of this is right here in this thread - there is a post by a dr.dan1960, who I assume is a vet and refers in his post that the other posts in this thread are nothing more then anecdotal (not necessarily true because not backed by facts.) This arrogant attitude that they know better because they have not seen with their own eye's a dog dying from Proin is frustrating and inexcuseable.

I have relayed to my new vet who cared for Twiggy in the end what my old vet who prescribed the Proin said to me about doubting it had anything to do with her death and he told me he was not surprised at the vets attitude--he also told me that Proin did indeed kill Twiggy - he witnessed the inhumane death that she suffered--thankfully my new vet is willing to research Proin and what happened to Twiggy and try and get the word out to Veterinarians. I told him I don't think that many vets truly care that Proin has this adverse reaction in many dogs and he told me, "They better care, if they are treating dogs they better care about what they give them."

I realize that many vets use this drug and have never seen the adverse reactions that are happening, many of them give it to their own dogs and it works fine, but if vets truly were made aware of the horrific death that this drug can and does cause in many dogs then I would hope they would stop using it.

One would hope that vets are as ethical as any doctor in any profession and that they would, "FIRST DO NO HARM!"

Please go to the site that I paste below-it is a thread I posted in GreyTalk when Twiggy was in the throes of dying from Proin. The posts from other greyhound owners with similar stories is enlightening.

Help! Any Info On The Drug Proin Reaction Needed - Greytalk - Adopted Greyhound Forum. A discussion forum for greyhound dog owners.
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Yes another death!
Yes, ProIn is a killer drug but you are not made aware of these facts until it happens to you.Yes, it helps 70% who take it, but the other 30% DIE from it, like Jasmine, Twiggy and Mr. Merc and others. Our vets should advise US of alll and any adverse reactions, our vets should be knowledgable enough to know NOT to give it if certain pre existing conditions are there-but some don't or even refuse to acknowledge the fact that adverse reactions exist or can occur. And that is wrong! Manufacters of this drug, Pegasus Laboratories, should be made aware of this and since they quoted to me, they are pet owners and would never injure or harm any animal, need to stop making this. If this drug, according to FDA, is not fit for human consumption (Dexatrim) for it caused stroked in humans, then it should it is not fit for our pets to consume and must be taken off the market.

Cheryl and Angel Jasmine

 

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This is a post done by CadburysMum

Wow, I just looked Proin up as my 15 year old Choc lab was peeing all over the place and was just prescribed it, this site was one of the first to come up on Google.
He has been on it for two days and wont stop panting and pacing. I called the vet, they said to lower the pills from 3 a day to two a day, I think after reading these posts that he wont be taking any more at all. I am so sorry to those who have lost your dogs, how terrible I feel awful, I could have perhaps killed my best friend of 15 years....thanks for all the info.
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I hope you have stopped it in time. Pegasus Lab wrote me that there was NO proof that ProIn caused the death of Jasmine. All I can say to that is I KNOW how she was before she took it-I KNOW how she acted when she took it-I KNOW what happened to her. The FDA states on its website that THEY WANT to know of any and all adverse reactions to drugs to animals. I am going to let them know what I observed in my Jasmine. You can report this annonismously. I hope all those who have been effected by ProIn will do the same. One voice is not enough to let the FDA know-one voice is not enough!
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He had his last pill yesterday and panted and paced into the evening, this morning he seems fine, he only took 5 pills in all, and although my Vet said to reduce the dosage, I have decided to discontinue giving it to him, I have had this dog for a 1/3 of my life, he has seen me through many life changes and has been my constant friend. I would rather put him in doggie diapers and use extra blankets than to see him in distress, I am so grateful to the people that posted on here so I could make a somewhat informed decision and maybe saved the life of my dog.
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Thank you for taking your dog off that killer!! I just wish this message on Proin was seen by all dog lovers! Let everyone you know about this crap get the message.
 

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Jasmine's Mom-ProIn WARNING
Do No-Do Not-Do Not-Give Your pet ProIn!! We have to put down our beloved Jasmine, a 13 yr old peek-a-poo, today because of this dreadful medicine. After her first dose back in July (and I only gave her 2 doses before I stopped), she went from a healthy (except for a slight heart murmur), active 'puppy' who lived to eat to one suffering from kidney failure and not eating and I truly believe ProIn was the cause. After her very first dose, her appetite dwindled and by week's end, after taking her off, she developed pancreatitis, even though she was not eating very much and spent 8 miserable days at the Vets til I brought her home. Then we developed severe diareha and her kidneys began to fail. Then those meds didn't work so I changed vets-he gave her pepto-bismol and stopped it immediately. One of the prescriptions stated not be to given to dogs in kidney failure!! Please before you give your beloved pet meds, research-the Vets do not.
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Proin is a BAD drug...Don't use it. Too many dogs have lost their lives to this drug!
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Jasmine is gone due to ProIn
I also wished I had researched this medicine before I made her take this-it is horrible! I truly believe that she would still be with us if it were not for me craming it down her throat! It makes any underlying problem fester and errupt. One dose and Jasmine had a pancreatitis attack, which she had not had in 5 yrs-one dose and her kidneys were failing, one dose and she was no longer up at 5:30 AM waiting for breakfast-she lived to eat even though she was only 13 lbs. One dose and she spent 45 days of living h___. not eating, but wanting to (I could hear her stomach growl),eating eating people food which I am against, having fluid treatments at home twice a day, diarehha. So I changed vets. I went back to her original vet who had moved too far away but I also regret changing vets 5 yrs ago. He proabably would have kept her alive for many more years. Please all of you head this as a serious warning: READ EVERYTHING YOU PUT IN YOUR PETS MOUTH AS IF IT WERE GOING INTO YOURS. This med needs to be off the market for pets as it is off the market for humasns.

 

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It's information, folks, to examine on your own and make your own decision. Thank you for not 'knocking me out of the water!' Another member in here I think has blinders on among other problems:wall:

But hey, I won't let the vet give my dogs prednisone unless it's life or death.
And I agree totally with that statement---I have it noted in the files my vet has: Never give rimadyl or prednisone without talking to me first. I've had a little experience with the rimadyl and my mother's dog died because of the prednisone. My vet gave automatically the rimadyl while dog was under for his neutering--no asking! Then gave me 3 rimadyl pills to give for pain while dog was recovering from the operation. My dog did not look like he was in pain that night but I gave him 1 pill as prescribed----I was up all night with him pacing , panting and looking at me as if saying Help Me! The other 2 pills went in the garbage!

So if anyone else feels about rimadyl (or any other med.) the way I do and don't want your dog to have it---Best leave those words for your vet to put in his records because otherwise it may be given without your permission when dog is being operated on, etc. I wouldn't have even known it was given if I hadn't seen the itemized bill afterwards!

Just a side note here--I always ask for a copy of all the paperwork of blood tests and other things too. You are entitled to this and is good to have so you can compare if there are any (even subtle) tests that are changing and may give you early clues to problems that may be developing. Also good to have if you have an emergency and your vet is not open and you need to go to an emergency clinic--Can help them decide what may be wrong--give clues, etc. Also if you decide to see another vet--you have the dog's records.
 

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I had a 11 year old female choclate lab, Cocoa, my best friend!!!
She was diagnosed with incontinence just this Friday night, My vet said all blood work and urine test all checked out negative..My Cocoa was fit as a fiddle. So the vet said to put her on Proin 50, start with 2 tablets, 50mgs each. Went home, gave her the pills, and within 2 hours, she started showing adverse effects,,,panting, breathing heavier than normal, lathargic, she vomited 1 time over night, and could hardly get up to go outside. So I called the vet, and he said to just wait about 24 hours or so, and the Proin should leave her system. The poor gal suffered right in front of me and I just trusted the vet. I rushed her to the vet after I called him again around 7 pm saturday night, and this time he said to bring her in and he would check her out and do whatever he could to stabilize her. She died around 12:30 am this morning, from heart failure, about 30 hours after me giving her the pills. I thought I would be going to pick her up sometime today, since I got her to the vet b4 she was real bad. She was such a trooper, she hung in there for 30 something hours, but that is what hurts the most, is that I was watching her suffer and die a slow death right b4 my eyes, and didn't even know it. I am sorry for your loss Kaandu, and any others out there. I too wish I had read up on this Proin b4 I gave her the pills. I also am having a problem with this because I feel like I played a part in her death as well. I too would of rather dealt with the couple times a week urine issue than signing her death certificate. Rest in Peace girl[/QUOT

I am stunned. I cannot believe another beloved pet has died because of this drug. PLEASE report this drug to PRN Pharmacal. I listed the link in my previous post. The women I spoke to called my vet the next day to get a report and was very interested in what happend to my Bailey. She actually almost started crying when I told her Bailey had died within 6 hours of getting Proin. We really need to do something to get this drug off the market. Again, I feel for you. I am so sorry.
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I had a dog of mine on Proin for 6 years before she finally passed away and I never had any sort of trouble with it...

I have to say that with all the research I have done about Proin, most dogs tolerate the drug well. I have called vets, spoken to veterinary schools in the area etc. However, there is a small population of older female dogs who seem to have a reaction to this drug that is deadly. Maybe all these dogs had pre-existing conditions, however, there needs to be way more precautions taken by the vets and drug company in prescribing it. We need to know it can be fatal in certain situations. I firmly believe that if my vet had told me my dog could die from this drug, I would not have given it to her.
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I place a great deal of trust in my veterinarian. However, I also recognise that he's only human and can't possibly know everything. Nobody can. That is where I believe it falls to me to bring any prescription home and research it, after which I call the Doctor back, quote my sources and have a very frank discussion as to the pros vs. the cons of any given medication. Any vet "worth his or her salt" will take your concerns seriously, do some research themselves and get back to you. If this doesn't happen, it is time to look for another vet. The care of our pets has to be a partnership between the pet parent and the vet.

Glad you posted the above for all members to see--A very good idea. Just wanted to add that when I find adverse 'things' I am concerned about (or even if I come across a good article) on the net--I do a lot of forwarding that info to my vet(s). Lol, They all know me really well too!
BUT I am determined to try and get the info across to them--and no denying that they weren't 'aware' of it!!
 

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This is the last post I will paste here---If you want to read much more--Please go to the link I gave in my 1st post.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------Two days ago we lost our beloved Basset Peanut to a deadly seizure. He had been on Proin for about a month. Ever since he started taking it, his spark was dimmer. He was lethargic and didn't have his usual appetite. We took him on vacation and noticed he was eating less so we didn't give him the Proin for two days. His appetitie increased slightly. We called the vet and was assured that the medication was safe. We decided that we would take him in to see the vet when we returned home in two days. We gave him a pill because his incontenence had returned and we didn't want him to leak on himself on the trip home. At 3:30 that morning our sweet boy died. I feel so guilty that I didn't listen to my instincts and take him off that medication! There is a hole in our hearts that can never be filled because of the loss of our beloved friend. Please explore other avenues for incontinence so you don't suffer like we are.
 

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On evening of April 16, 2009 our awesome 14 yr. old girl Chelsea had a good checkup at the vets, except for a little urinary leaking...a few drops mind you..a minor inconvenience as we have wood floors..we were not really concerned, but mentioned it....our vet suggested PROIN...ok we'll try it...one dose...she wagged her tail, gobbled it up in a piece of bread, went to bed as usual, woke up staggering, panting, panicky, disoriented, then seizures...dead a few hours later...........(vet says meds not involved, they've never had problem)but I knew she was dying..it was horrific for her and for us

WELL, AFTER THE FACT, (here's where the IGNORANCE lies...) I researched and found out all the history of that horrible drug...we were so saddened and guilt ridden anyway and now it was even worse, because had we just LOOKED UP THIS DRUG THAT WE GAVE OUR PET as we do for ourselves, this may not have happened.....OUR VET didn't know the bottom line side effects either...they've promised to read all the literature on the drug, then offer doggie diapers first, then fully disclose the worst side effects...

DOGGIE DIAPERS if you love your pet....look up everything...inoculations....everything!
Some of commonly used medications can be just as bad as PROIN...Thanks
chelsea1
07-18-2009 #32
Corky/Max
You are so right!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------DOGGIE DIAPERS if you love your pet....look up everything...inoculations....everything!
Some of commonly used medications can be just as bad as PROIN...Thanks

You are so right. Thanks for adding that statement---I have been 'practically preaching that to everyone I can and it sure 'adds' to it when someone else makes the same 'noises' (good ones) Sorry about your baby. Maybe with your comments being read--It will save more innocent dogs from this happening to them. I love all dogs and want to help them as much as I can--as do you evidently--Thank you again!
Corky/Max
07-18-2009 #33
Lara's mom
--------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks to everybody for their information and experiences. You've performed an amazing service to those of us who haven't been faced with that yet. I know none of my dogs will EVER get this drug. Again, thank you SO much!!!
Lara's mom
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07-18-2009 #35
Corky/Max
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Originally Posted by Bailey24
Can I ask where you found the information about seizures? I researched the drug also AFTER our dog died and could not find any conclusive research about seizures. The only place I found cases was on the Doggie chat boards. We too are devestated that we were responsible in part for our dogs death. It breaks our heart everyday. All the vets I have spoken with insist the Proin had nothing to do with her dying, so I would love to know where you found the information that I can share with them.

I just looked on net to see if I could find more info on seizures--Not many places mention seizures except this one (and they are selling Proin!!) Here is the address: Proin (Phenylpropanolamine) is for treating urinary incontinences in dogs and cats. Read more about usage and dosage in our Medications Guide at PetCareRx.

Proin (Phenylpropanolamine) is for treating urinary incontinences in dogs and cats. Read more about usage and dosage in our Medications Guide at PetCareRx.

Would also alert everyone to be careful because you may end up with Proin if you don't realize that Proin and/or Propalin are the brand names for this crap called: phenylpropanolamine---So be aware of these 3 interchangeable words!!!

 
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