Neutered or not ?

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I know alot of people here support the idea of neuturing their dogs at 6 mths before her first heat. I have a female who is coming of age (nearly 6 mths now) I have no intention of breeding her 'cos I know nothing about breeding and she certainly has not the best temprement for a GSD (she is very shy)
I would like to keep her whole and just want to know what health problems I might face if I do that.
This is a touchy subject judging from reading other posts, but rest assured even if I keep her whole, she will NOT be bred.
 

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I'm not to good with all the health problems but the biggest pain is the mess it makes. And you cna't walk her anywere because every male dog in town is running to you.
 
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Some females have a period when they are in heat so that is the mess.

Male dogs can smell from 2-5 miles so they will all come a calling and you will need to beat them away with a stick

Ovarian cancer is at risk for her

Sometimes the female has temperment issues during their heat.


Personally if I was not breeding I would spay, or neuter. It is just alot less hassels and much easier. Good Luck I am sure there are others who can provide better answers then me.
 

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Are you aware that female dogs that are left intact will bleed vaginally for up to 2 weeks? You will have to purchase bitch britches for her to prevent the mess from getting all over your house.

The biggest reason I am against leaving a non-breeding female intact is for her extreme risk of pyometra as she ages. Pyometra is an extreme and life threatening uterine infection and it's not pretty. The only cure for the infection is to spay the dog and then hope for the best. Sometimes even when the life saving surgery is done, the dog still dies from how toxic she has become internally. Females that are left intact and never bred are especially prone to developing pyometra. I witnessed this first hand at the vet clinic I worked for and let me tell you, it's not rare, it's very expensive and the dog becomes very ill. In my opinion it's better to prevent it by spaying early on.

The other thing we saw a ton of in intact females was mammary cancer. This one was so common, spread quickly and killed many. If the owners would have spayed before the first heat cycle, these dogs would have had a tiny, tiny chance of getting this cancer.

Well, those are my biggest reasons! Spaying saves lives...literally.

Please take the time to read this article. It starts near the bottom of the page I think. It's called "Pyometra in the Dog."
http://www.thepetcenter.com/sur/pyo.html
 
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Thank you showpug, i will certainly think seriously abt this. Just that now i'm in the midst of purchasing a new place with a nice roof terrace for her to run around n not worry about her dirtying the landlord's furnitures and aprt. So in short i'm really poor now :(
But I'll really try to make some cash for it.
 
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female, yes, definetly have her spayed and very soon. its best to get it before the first heat cycle
now my male dog on the other hand i left intact. i had his neuter day all scheduled and the day before his surgery he got very sick so i had to cancell his appointment. the next appointment for him wasnt until 6 weeks later, so i said forget it. hes 2 years old now and ive never had any issues or problems with him. he doesnt seem to go into heat at all, and if he does he's quiet about it lol
my female beagle is spayed, she had it done almost a month ago. she never had a chance to go into heat
if your not going to breed her then id schedule an appointment right away.
youll be glad you did. ive known a female cocker spaniel that was never spayed and she was aweful. she would make a bloody mess everywhere and she would howl and cry when she was in heat, she was 9 and her family regreted not having her spayed. in fact thats how i met her, they were finding her a new home, they just couldnt bare to be with her any longer
 

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female, yes, definetly have her spayed and very soon. its best to get it before the first heat cycle
now my male dog on the other hand i left intact. i had his neuter day all scheduled and the day before his surgery he got very sick so i had to cancell his appointment. the next appointment for him wasnt until 6 weeks later, so i said forget it. hes 2 years old now and ive never had any issues or problems with him. he doesnt seem to go into heat at all, and if he does he's quiet about it lol
my female beagle is spayed, she had it done almost a month ago. she never had a chance to go into heat
if your not going to breed her then id schedule an appointment right away.
youll be glad you did. ive known a female cocker spaniel that was never spayed and she was aweful. she would make a bloody mess everywhere and she would howl and cry when she was in heat, she was 9 and her family regreted not having her spayed. in fact thats how i met her, they were finding her a new home, they just couldnt bare to be with her any longer
Male dogs don't go into heat. Just like male humans don't have menstrual cycles. It's the same thing.
 

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Thank you showpug, i will certainly think seriously abt this. Just that now i'm in the midst of purchasing a new place with a nice roof terrace for her to run around n not worry about her dirtying the landlord's furnitures and aprt. So in short i'm really poor now :(
But I'll really try to make some cash for it.
I am glad you have an open mind. It sounds like you really love your dog and I know you will do what's best for her. If you can't afford it now, then you can't afford it. Just get it done as soon as you can, the sooner the better when it comes to health benefits.
 
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This might sound like a stupid question...but...when a dog is spayed, do they take everything out all of the time...ovaries...ect? Also, do dogs suffer from hormonal changes like a human...menopause....etc?
 
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I love her enough to purchase a place of myself so she can have more space to run about :p Just I forgot abt the neuturing cost, been with my calculator alot lately and its really stressful.
She has been acting really strange lately that I have to keep her on leash 'cos she doesn't respond to my calls anymore and heads for poo (well any poo and devour them like some delicious treat) My trainer says she is reaching puberty and might take awhile for her to settle down. 6 mths already puberty??
 

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Denaluvscorgis said:
This might sound like a stupid question...but...when a dog is spayed, do they take everything out all of the time...ovaries...ect? Also, do dogs suffer from hormonal changes like a human...menopause....etc?
A spay is indeed a complete OHE (Ovarian Hysterectomy) where both the uterus and ovaries are removed. This way, it prevents both ovarian and uterine cancer. As far as the hormonal part of it...that's a tough one. They don't seem to suffer from any hormonal changes at least any that we can see on the outside. But, it would be naive to assume that they don't have any hormonal changes etc. I have witnessed and assisted in probably well over 1000 k9 spays and all of the patients did spectacular afterwards. All of my females who have been spayed have done very well and showed no hormonal symptoms whatsoever.
 

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Wings said:
I love her enough to purchase a place of myself so she can have more space to run about :p Just I forgot abt the neuturing cost, been with my calculator alot lately and its really stressful.
She has been acting really strange lately that I have to keep her on leash 'cos she doesn't respond to my calls anymore and heads for poo (well any poo and devour them like some delicious treat) My trainer says she is reaching puberty and might take awhile for her to settle down. 6 mths already puberty??
She is at 6 months reaching sexual maturity, i.e. pueberty. Eating poop is a very natural (but gross:eek: ) instinct for dogs. They do it in the wild to survive through the winter and that is why a lot of people witness this in their dogs as the winter months approach. I have one female that thinks poop is the most delicious treat on earth. She is also my most dominant and food driven dog. I have no doubt she does it instinctively, but I still stop her as it's is very disgusting!
 
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yea extremely disgusting and she likes those that is already mouldy and all. Her mouth really smells after :(
 
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A female dog spayed before her first heat will have a near zero chance of developing
mammary cancer. After the first heat, this incidence climbs to 7% and after the second
heat the risk is 25% (one in four!). It is easy to see that an early spay can completely
prevent what is frequently a very difficult and potentially fatal form of cancer "Pyometra" is the life-threatening infection of the uterus which generally occurs in
middle-aged to older female dogs in the six weeks following heat. The hormone
"progesterone," which primes the uterus for potential pregnancy, does so by causing
proliferation of the blood-filled uterine lining and suppression of uterine immune
function. It is thus easy during heat for bacteria in the vagina to ascend to the uterus to
cause infection. The uterus with pyometra swells dramatically and is filled with pus,
bacteria, dying tissue, and toxins. Without treatment, the pet is expected to die. Despite
her serious medical state, she must be spayed quickly if her life is to be saved. http://www.gsdhelpline.com/spay2.htm In the United States, most dogs are spayed between 5 and 8 months of age. Many humane shelters and veterinarians are starting to spay female animals at a younger age, even at 2 months. This early spaying does not affect the growth rate, and there are no appreciable differences in skeletal, physical, or behavioral development between those animals spayed early than those spayed at a more traditional age. It must be remembered that younger animals may need different anesthetics and are more prone to hypothermia (lower than normal body temperature) during surgery. As long as procedures are modified to account for these differences, early neutering is very safe. In fact, animals spayed at a younger age often have faster recoveries than those spayed when they are older.
 
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Trust me, you do not want to go through a heat with your dog! It is very messy and it stains everything. Do you have any other dogs? There is no reason why you shouldnt spay. You could be saving your dogs life!
 

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Hmm, if money's a problem, try checking your local animal shelter or rescue. Most of them offer coupons for spaying/neutering.
 
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I only have 1 dog, and well after reading all the scary stuff that may develop for not neuturing, i will try to find some money for the operation. Not sure if the animal shelter in Amsterdam offers coupon tho' I'll check.
Thanks everyone :)
 

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wings, i don't want to scare you, but i lost my 14 year old dachshund to breast cancer this year. she could have easily lived to 18 years or older, but she was never spayed and went through false pregnancies a few times.

she was very healthy her entire life but developed cancer in her right mammary line in mid-june, had surgery, the cancer came back in the left mammary line but it was too soon after the first surgery to have another right away. she died on september 18th.

not only is it very stressful for the animal to first go through the heat and then through a pregnancy (false or real), it's also annoying for you to deal with, and for any owners of intact male dogs who live near you.

being german, i understand the different viewpoints on spaying/neutering prevalent in different cultures, but i for one will not keep an intact dog anymore unless i have intentions of breeding. it's simply not worth the risk.
 
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awww....sorry mordy, you lost her, ill try my best to get it done but I checked my acc today and I only have EUR 100/- :(
 

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