Neutered or not ?

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oriondw said:
I guess this turned into another pro-neuter toter thread... big surprise.
Spaying and neutering DOES lower health risks and IS a responsible choice. I think it's dumb when people say, "I don't want him to get less manly." Please. It's a dog. He doesn't care if he's neutered.
 

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not only is it silly to think it's cruel...for goodness sakes, people also have sterilization done. nothing changes, and it's really not a big deal. and no, I'm not going to attempt to argue with anyone. :) I'm sure you'll make the right choice for you. if it is a financial hardship right now, then just be careful. I actually wanted to tell you that your dog is soooo pretty.
 

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All of us are bound to the grave. A dog may die of other causes, not just cancer. Its also not true that dogs will eventually get cancer if they say unspayed or un-neutered. Experts say that there is only a higher percentage, its not really a certainty. Taking away someone or somethings "gift" is cruel and inhumane. I don't think anyone of us will like to get his "things" cut off, disabled, or removed. Same with dogs. If they could only talk do you think they would agree to have their "things" taken away from them? We could regulate our dogs behaviour if we really don't want to mate. We could fence our yard, we could make a wide open kennel for them, and much, much more. If people does not have enough time to watch over their dogs, I don't think our poor mutts should suffer for it. They are their owners responsiblity after all.
 
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Yes i dun have time like some of us here do that stays home or like yourself running your own farm wif 30 helpers. I have to work to provide for myself and give all I can to make my dog a happy one. I love and care alot for my dog to work myself like mad to buy a new apartment so she can have more space when the walking service brings her home during the day.
It may seem inhumane to take away a "gift" from god but I rather not have a "higher percentage" then risk having to lose them young and not able to enjoy their company for a few more years.
Do we really have to only regret when they are diagnosed wif a incurable disease many years down the road and that can be prevented now?
 
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no there are pros and cons of freaking nuetering it is your decision. you can think aobut this. it can prevent cancer but can cause other problems dont worry if you dont want to breed and you dont have a intact male then dnt do i lived on a fam and well we never did that lOl and they lived years longer than those that we did spay...
 
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Well, yes its my decision to spay or not. But well I do not have time to look after her the whole day and when she is out with the walking service, you'll never know when she will be mated when in heat. And I can't keep her in the hse for 2-3 weeks and not letting her out for 10 hrs a day nor can i afford to take leave from work to stay at home during that period.
So spaying is my choice
 

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Taking away someone or somethings "gift" is cruel and inhumane.
all other considerations aside, i think it is far more inhumane to let dogs suffer through the stress and sexual frustration over and over again. add to that the stress and frustration over being confined and not able to satisfy that urge. i don't want to be overly dramatic, but under the influence of hormones a bitch in season or an intact male within scent range of one feel like drug addicts on withdrawal.

depending on temperament, dogs go through great trouble to mate and that leaves them very vulnerable to accidents. nobody is a "perfect" owner and unless you keep a dog confined in a kennel or locked away in a safe room, accidents do happen and the dogs can run off and contribute to more pet overpopulation

humane is to take the urge to procreate away if you aren't going to breed the dog. humane is to prevent "oops" litters that bring puppies into this world which are likely to end up at shelters because nobody wants them.

don't tell me this is humane:
 

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gaddylovesdogs said:
Spaying and neutering DOES lower health risks and IS a responsible choice. I think it's dumb when people say, "I don't want him to get less manly." Please. It's a dog. He doesn't care if he's neutered.
Why do people always choose THAT as a reason for not wanting to neuter?

:confused:
 

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You when a ear and tail cropping thread pops up, people are up in arms about cruelty... when neutering thread pops up... you know the deal.

Why is that ?
 

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oriondw said:
You when a ear and tail cropping thread pops up, people are up in arms about cruelty... when neutering thread pops up... you know the deal.

Why is that ?
You know why. You've read the threads
 

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comparing docking/cropping to spaying/neutering is like comparing breast augmentation surgery to vasectomy or tubal ligation.

docking and cropping does nothing to prevent pet overpopulation and in 90% of the cases it serves only a purely cosmetic purpose that doesn't really include any health advantages for the dog.
 

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There are products which can help prevent mating. I use anti-mating spray repellants on my female dogs when they're not ready to be bred yet. It works. Keeps away the males. You should try that.
 
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Well if you consider having a brood unwanted puppies with bad temperment, you will maybe finally be able to see the light. And yes, i'm a working adult striving hard to make ends meet. Sorry I'm not like you who has brothers n sisters and helpers to help you look after your dogs. So yes I can't be sure she is 100% safe, and NO she is NOT a poor dog. I'm sure she is well loved by my bf and me and she is given the best care we can afford !!
 

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#58
Bowowee said:
Poor dog....tsk tsk tsk...
So it's so sad that the dog is going to be sterilized. But, how much more sad would it be if Mango had puppies and they ended up like the dogs and cats in the picture Mordy supplied? Also, Mango is not going to care if she is fixed/spayed. My dog, Precious, actually seemed more laid back and happy once she was spayed. She won't know the difference, and all of her attention will be focused on you, never on sexual urges.
 
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All of us are bound to the grave. A dog may die of other causes, not just cancer. Its also not true that dogs will eventually get cancer if they say unspayed or un-neutered. Experts say that there is only a higher percentage, its not really a certainty. Taking away someone or somethings "gift" is cruel and inhumane. I don't think anyone of us will like to get his "things" cut off, disabled, or removed. Same with dogs. If they could only talk do you think they would agree to have their "things" taken away from them? We could regulate our dogs behaviour if we really don't want to mate. We could fence our yard, we could make a wide open kennel for them, and much, much more. If people does not have enough time to watch over their dogs, I don't think our poor mutts should suffer for it. They are their owners responsiblity after all.
I just have to chime in on this one... First off, I'm a big advocate of spaying/neutering. The reduced risk of cancer is reason enough for me. But also as a woman who is done having kids, I've got to tell you, I envy my spayed dog. I would cut my arm off to have the same surgery and not have to worry about mood swings and pain and all the crap that I have to deal with for 2 weeks out of every month.
 

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I would cut my arm off to have the same surgery and not have to worry about mood swings and pain and all the crap that I have to deal with for 2 weeks out of every month.
isn't that the truth!!! :D :D :D :D
 

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