Martin Richling Q&A
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Well, that's the bottom line, then we know MR methods wouldn't work. 
Plus every Fila I have ever met holds a grudge, lol!
I guess maybe I've met some of the lesser traditional trainers, I trained under a few different traditional trainers when I was younger and they all approached every single dog the same exact way. And I don't mean just correction wise, I mean they were expecting a sighthound to respond the same way as a golden would. It was like every dog was the same, there was no trying any different methods, if you just upped the level/force of a correction then at some point the dog would listen. I think that is just pure stupidity.
There's one dog that I always remember, it was a border collie and he was all over the place, extremely over-stimulated in the training area with all the other dogs, people, butterflies, etc. and the only advice the trainer ever gave the owner was to yank harder on the leash/yell louder. The dog wasn't trying to disobey, he was too freakin overstimulated to concentrate! Why wouldn't they tell the owner to keep the dog to the side and work on come focus techniques or something like that?!?!
To me that's like taking a kid with ADHD to a playground, sitting him/her in the middle of it and expecting them to work on homework. And every time he/she looks up at something hitting them. It just doesn't seem logical to me.
Like I said before, I am not totally against corrections, but I do not physically correct my dogs. Besides the fact that my dogs don't need them, I honestly don't know if I could correct my dogs, I would feel horrible about doing it. If that makes me a person who's ribs are made of french fries and backbone is made of something that I can't remember but was meant as an insult, so be it guess that's just who I am. All I know is that I have 2 happy, healthy dogs who have never felt a stern leash correction and are non the worse for wear. The way I see it, it's kinda like training with an e-collar (never used one just going from what people tell me and common sense), you start at the very lowest level and work your way up. I started at the lowest level and have never had to move it up a notch.
I actually enjoy the time I spend desensitizing my dog, I find it an extremely good way to further the bond with your dog. Plus the results are great. Izzy was DA, and now I can let her go play off-leash with 20+ dogs and she has the time of her life. Granted she's not best buds with every dog she ever meets, but most people who've used corrections to fix aggression cannot do that. They can have their dog in a down/stay or standing by their side in a large group like that but they can't let the dogs interact. Maybe letting the dog off-leash with a bunch of other dogs isn't important to them, but it is to me and I consider it a great accomplishment.
Plus, Izzy is a therapy dog, taking her to a facility where she has to be in close quarters and possibly interact peacefully with another dog is just part of the gig. I can't have her growling and snapping if a dog gets too close, many times she's sitting next to child who's dying or a person who's scared of dogs, that kind of behavior is just not acceptable in that sort of situation and could lead to disasterous consequences.
Sorry for rambling, the NyQuil's kicking in
There's one dog that I always remember, it was a border collie and he was all over the place, extremely over-stimulated in the training area with all the other dogs, people, butterflies, etc. and the only advice the trainer ever gave the owner was to yank harder on the leash/yell louder. The dog wasn't trying to disobey, he was too freakin overstimulated to concentrate! Why wouldn't they tell the owner to keep the dog to the side and work on come focus techniques or something like that?!?!
To me that's like taking a kid with ADHD to a playground, sitting him/her in the middle of it and expecting them to work on homework. And every time he/she looks up at something hitting them. It just doesn't seem logical to me.
Like I said before, I am not totally against corrections, but I do not physically correct my dogs. Besides the fact that my dogs don't need them, I honestly don't know if I could correct my dogs, I would feel horrible about doing it. If that makes me a person who's ribs are made of french fries and backbone is made of something that I can't remember but was meant as an insult, so be it guess that's just who I am. All I know is that I have 2 happy, healthy dogs who have never felt a stern leash correction and are non the worse for wear. The way I see it, it's kinda like training with an e-collar (never used one just going from what people tell me and common sense), you start at the very lowest level and work your way up. I started at the lowest level and have never had to move it up a notch.
I actually enjoy the time I spend desensitizing my dog, I find it an extremely good way to further the bond with your dog. Plus the results are great. Izzy was DA, and now I can let her go play off-leash with 20+ dogs and she has the time of her life. Granted she's not best buds with every dog she ever meets, but most people who've used corrections to fix aggression cannot do that. They can have their dog in a down/stay or standing by their side in a large group like that but they can't let the dogs interact. Maybe letting the dog off-leash with a bunch of other dogs isn't important to them, but it is to me and I consider it a great accomplishment.
Plus, Izzy is a therapy dog, taking her to a facility where she has to be in close quarters and possibly interact peacefully with another dog is just part of the gig. I can't have her growling and snapping if a dog gets too close, many times she's sitting next to child who's dying or a person who's scared of dogs, that kind of behavior is just not acceptable in that sort of situation and could lead to disasterous consequences.
Sorry for rambling, the NyQuil's kicking in
J
I am one of Martin students, and have been for about 6 years, on, and off, and have nothing but good things to say about his training methods.
You people can complain, but while other trainers are turning away aggressive dogs, Martin is glad to have them.
People with dogs that have been thrown out of multiple other training schools are welcome at Martins, and the best part is the dogs are "repaired".
SB Wilson may not have realized that many of the dogs in the class were formerly aggressive to dogs, or humans, or both
The techniques employed by Martin work, it is that simple. No dog is abused, or mistreated. The dogs are happy. I don't see any dogs in the class that are skittish, frightened, or submissively peeing themselves.
I would not attend if that was the case, as I like my dogs stable, and happy
These dogs are stable, confident, and self assured. They trust their master, and love their master.
I had one of my pups become dog aggressive. This dog weighs over 125 pounds, and that behavior is unacceptable. A few weeks in training and the problem was solved.
He is not scared, or submissive, indeed he is confident, and outgoing now.
He is a baby kissing politician.
Instead of eating other dogs, he is meeting them on neutral terms.
At a local dog event he had a dog growl at him, and paw him in the face. At one time that would have been a bad thing. My dog merely growled a warning, and jumped upon the picnic table to sit by me, not behind me. Not out of fear, but because my dog sees me as his master, and protector, he defers decisions of protection to me.
The dog my wife could not control on a leash now walks with her off lead through Petsmart.
My dogs have been threatened, and attacked several times by other strange dogs, and every time my dogs did not respond, but instead, deferred decisions, and protection to me.
Tonight I left both of my dogs in a down stay at a Petsmart, and went down a couple of isles, my dogs were right where I left them when I got back.
We are complimented constantly by PetsMart staff, and other places of business about the high level of good behavior they exhibit, along with the friendly outgoing personalities.
I walk thorough Lowes building centers with my dog off lead.
I walk though festivals, and dog events with the lead dragging the ground
I take my dog to the airport, inside the fence, around running planes, off leash, and she is not killed by propellers. I can walk with her in buildings with fork lifts running around, off lead
Now you people can lynch Martin with a mob mentality and fervor of Mississippi Klan meeting, but the methods work, and it really is that simple.
Our dogs are not afraid of their master, it is the exact opposite, they bond to us like nothing you have ever experienced from a dog.
I have seen new students start Martin's class with scabs on the arms, and hands from their dog. These people had tried everything, and their vet, and other so called trainers recommended the dog be put down. Instead these owners kept trying, and found Martin. Their dogs became stable, good citizens.
Yes some correction is involved in the obedience training, but it is not to the degree some of you more dramatic people seem to imagine.
What SBWilson is not telling is the number of times Martin commands his student to praise and love on their dog, or the times he has chewed us out for not praising enough, or with enough vigor.
Had she actually stayed around the class long enough she would have seen that also.
In the classes I have attended, I notice many dogs never get corrected at all.
Those dogs just seem to not need anything but a strong voice, and that is all they get.
I have had many classes where I never corrected my dogs, and other classes that I made quite a few corrections as they were needed.
Many people are simply pet owners, and need nothing more than to have their dogs come when called.
Others have varying degrees of needs from our dogs.
I happen to take my dog, or dogs everywhere with me, and I can't have them running amuck, getting run over by a car because they decided that squirrel was cool to chase, and I am too lazy to hang on to a leash constantly in fear of my dog getting away. Or have them trying to eat children, and other animals
I really do not get what so many of you are mad about.
None of you can truthfully say the methods do not work.
I doubt many of you have dogs that are trained to the level the average dog in our class is trained to, and perhaps you do not need that level.
I do need that high level of training. I live near busy streets, and am a runner/walker, so I don't want my dog hit by a car. I don't want my dog leaving my yard if I, or some meter reader leaves a gate open when the dogs are unsupervised, I want those dogs to treat the open gate as if it was closed.
If I need to pull something down off a shelf in a store, I want my dog to stay where I tell him, or near me.
If I am out at a festival, and I need both hands to carry something, I want to know my dogs will be at a heel beside me, no matter what is going on.
I had a dog disregard a stop command once, and get hit by a car, while in pursuit of a squirrel, and although the dog survived, I will never have it happen again.
If you guys can prove another type of training is as good, or better, prove it to me, and I will sign right up, the problem is there is no better style of training.
The training takes into account exactly how a dog thinks, and disregards all the Anthropomorphism we humans apply to dogs
.
They are dogs, not furry little people, and we as humans have to learn how they think to properly train them for what we need from them.
We live in a high density population society, and simply cannot have dogs running amuck doing whatever a dogs wants to do, the liability is too high.
I have been to seminars, and taken the various training classes, and nothing even comes close to the level of success this German style training achieves.
It truly creates the best trained dogs in the world. That is not some brain washed nonsense, it is fact.
We humans do not have to like it, or prefer it, but the training works, and it merely treats a dog like a dog, with the mind of a dog, instead of a little furry human that we humans tend to want to treat them like.
You people can complain, but while other trainers are turning away aggressive dogs, Martin is glad to have them.
People with dogs that have been thrown out of multiple other training schools are welcome at Martins, and the best part is the dogs are "repaired".
SB Wilson may not have realized that many of the dogs in the class were formerly aggressive to dogs, or humans, or both
The techniques employed by Martin work, it is that simple. No dog is abused, or mistreated. The dogs are happy. I don't see any dogs in the class that are skittish, frightened, or submissively peeing themselves.
I would not attend if that was the case, as I like my dogs stable, and happy
These dogs are stable, confident, and self assured. They trust their master, and love their master.
I had one of my pups become dog aggressive. This dog weighs over 125 pounds, and that behavior is unacceptable. A few weeks in training and the problem was solved.
He is not scared, or submissive, indeed he is confident, and outgoing now.
He is a baby kissing politician.
Instead of eating other dogs, he is meeting them on neutral terms.
At a local dog event he had a dog growl at him, and paw him in the face. At one time that would have been a bad thing. My dog merely growled a warning, and jumped upon the picnic table to sit by me, not behind me. Not out of fear, but because my dog sees me as his master, and protector, he defers decisions of protection to me.
The dog my wife could not control on a leash now walks with her off lead through Petsmart.
My dogs have been threatened, and attacked several times by other strange dogs, and every time my dogs did not respond, but instead, deferred decisions, and protection to me.
Tonight I left both of my dogs in a down stay at a Petsmart, and went down a couple of isles, my dogs were right where I left them when I got back.
We are complimented constantly by PetsMart staff, and other places of business about the high level of good behavior they exhibit, along with the friendly outgoing personalities.
I walk thorough Lowes building centers with my dog off lead.
I walk though festivals, and dog events with the lead dragging the ground
I take my dog to the airport, inside the fence, around running planes, off leash, and she is not killed by propellers. I can walk with her in buildings with fork lifts running around, off lead
Now you people can lynch Martin with a mob mentality and fervor of Mississippi Klan meeting, but the methods work, and it really is that simple.
Our dogs are not afraid of their master, it is the exact opposite, they bond to us like nothing you have ever experienced from a dog.
I have seen new students start Martin's class with scabs on the arms, and hands from their dog. These people had tried everything, and their vet, and other so called trainers recommended the dog be put down. Instead these owners kept trying, and found Martin. Their dogs became stable, good citizens.
Yes some correction is involved in the obedience training, but it is not to the degree some of you more dramatic people seem to imagine.
What SBWilson is not telling is the number of times Martin commands his student to praise and love on their dog, or the times he has chewed us out for not praising enough, or with enough vigor.
Had she actually stayed around the class long enough she would have seen that also.
In the classes I have attended, I notice many dogs never get corrected at all.
Those dogs just seem to not need anything but a strong voice, and that is all they get.
I have had many classes where I never corrected my dogs, and other classes that I made quite a few corrections as they were needed.
Many people are simply pet owners, and need nothing more than to have their dogs come when called.
Others have varying degrees of needs from our dogs.
I happen to take my dog, or dogs everywhere with me, and I can't have them running amuck, getting run over by a car because they decided that squirrel was cool to chase, and I am too lazy to hang on to a leash constantly in fear of my dog getting away. Or have them trying to eat children, and other animals
I really do not get what so many of you are mad about.
None of you can truthfully say the methods do not work.
I doubt many of you have dogs that are trained to the level the average dog in our class is trained to, and perhaps you do not need that level.
I do need that high level of training. I live near busy streets, and am a runner/walker, so I don't want my dog hit by a car. I don't want my dog leaving my yard if I, or some meter reader leaves a gate open when the dogs are unsupervised, I want those dogs to treat the open gate as if it was closed.
If I need to pull something down off a shelf in a store, I want my dog to stay where I tell him, or near me.
If I am out at a festival, and I need both hands to carry something, I want to know my dogs will be at a heel beside me, no matter what is going on.
I had a dog disregard a stop command once, and get hit by a car, while in pursuit of a squirrel, and although the dog survived, I will never have it happen again.
If you guys can prove another type of training is as good, or better, prove it to me, and I will sign right up, the problem is there is no better style of training.
The training takes into account exactly how a dog thinks, and disregards all the Anthropomorphism we humans apply to dogs
.
They are dogs, not furry little people, and we as humans have to learn how they think to properly train them for what we need from them.
We live in a high density population society, and simply cannot have dogs running amuck doing whatever a dogs wants to do, the liability is too high.
I have been to seminars, and taken the various training classes, and nothing even comes close to the level of success this German style training achieves.
It truly creates the best trained dogs in the world. That is not some brain washed nonsense, it is fact.
We humans do not have to like it, or prefer it, but the training works, and it merely treats a dog like a dog, with the mind of a dog, instead of a little furry human that we humans tend to want to treat them like.
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