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Hey guys, I searched and I didn't find it. And I read The Culture Clash and even though she specifically mentions it there doesn't seem to be the section on not jumping up that she mentioned.

So here I am asking for help again. My puppy, Java the adorable Cairo Street Dog Rescue, tends to jump up. I want to nip this one while its still relatively nippable. So what do I do? And what do I tell people to do when they meet him?

Thanks a bunch. You guys are the greatest. Yep. The greatest.
 
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1) YOU control the situation, and prevent the dog from jumping up.

2) teach a conflicting behavior. He can't jump up if he's sitting or lying down.

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Controlling the situation is hard because he usually only meets seriously non-dog smart high school kids. Right, teach a conflicting behavior. I'll do my best.
 

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What I do is if a pup looks like he's about to jump, at the first sign of intention, the first muscle contraction, I tell him, "sit," (assuming your pup knows sit) Then I give a little treat and quiet praise. While he's beginning to learn this, I'll even squat down to his level, turn him broadside across my chest and hug him close to me while I give him attention so he doesn't feel the need to leap up to greet me. If he manages to jump up before I notice in order to give him an alternative, I'll turn sideways and ignore him....not speak, look at, do anything. Just absolutely ignore him. He will then, since it's not working, get back on all fours, at which time, I'll immediately turn to him, squat down and love him up, scratch behind his ears, give him a little treat. EVERYONE who interacts with him must be instructed to do the same. Tell your friends before they come over that you're trying to train your pup and will they help you by.........If you're consistant and keep it up, he will eventually learn what behavior gives him what he wants and what behavior does not. Remember to always think what is it the dog wants? In this case, it's your attention. That's the reinforcer. A treat is a bonus to further make the desireable behavior reinforced. The more reinforcements he gets for a behavior, the more likely that behavior will be repeated. You don't need to punish the jumping up because if he does not get anything good from jumping up, that behavior will extinguish on it's own. Keep at it. This behavior has been working for him up to now or it wouldn't exist. So, he's going to keep trying for a while. Consistancy and showing a real contrast to him (jumping up gets him nothing. Staying on all fours gets him everything he wants) will solve your problems with jumping.
 

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I missed the post about high school kids. Before he is allowed to get within jumping up range, you'll have to explain to them that you're trying to teach him not to jump and will they please ignore him if he does and when he sits or is on all fours (whatever you like) then they can look at him, speak to him, pat him. The second he bounces back up on them, again, please ignore him immediately. If they can't or won't follow your request, then keep them away from him until this behavior of greeting while on all fours is solid....from practice with you and a few friends or family who WILL assist you.
 

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LOL re the high school kids!

Bailey's a jumper when people come into the house which isn't all that often. He's fine when we go TO the people but coming inside our house is another thing. He doesn't jump on ME so no chance to practice. BUT what does work for him is to turn your back on him and cross the arms, he automatically sits.
Now if I can just get my mother and daughter to do this right off the bat we might not have any jumping! LOL One of my RB Collie's jumped but around the time he had his first birthday he all of a sudden just stopped.
 

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Yes, it would help if everyone helps out. And that's so true....maturity helps a lot too. Good luck wiht him.
 

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Bah! I wrote a big long reply about teaching a default sit (not a cued sit) for everything and basically doing what Carrie suggested only I don't just wait and reward for 4 paws on the floor I wait for a sit. It's generally the first behavior a dog will try since it's the first thing they learn and has the longest history and the most reinforcement. Anyway, I lost it so I'll just add when you can't count on the people to do as you ask-( which is most of the time with most people), just stand on the dog's leash. You can hold the end in your hand but place your foot on the part that touches the ground. Give him enough to stand and sit comfortably but that if he goes to jump up he'll only get his front feet an inch off the ground. That let's him sort of correct himself, you don't have to even think about it and you can just ask the people to only pat him if he is sitting, ignore him if he's not. It also means he won't be undoing his training by getting reinforced for jumping up. When I had a big jumper I kept a leash near the door for this purpose.
The dog just needs to learn that sitting politely is the greeting that works, jumping doesn't. If you're consistent and have good timing he'll get it. Just resist the urge to blab at him. The worst is people who say " Fluffy off" "FlUFFFY! OFF" "OFF!!!" and their dogs are getting reinforced for it (negative attention is better than no attention for most exuberant your dogs) and the dogs never really quit doing it, they just learn to jump up, then get off :rolleyes:
 

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I too have been having a bit of a problem like this...I do the whole thing of ignoring Cheyenne when she does it, only problem is, when I go down to pet her once she's back down, she tried jumping or crawling up on me again. She wants me to pick her up and hold her... So, when I go down to pet her, and she tries jumping up again should I stand back up and ignore her again? Or try something different? I have never delt with a pup quite like her, so I'm not sure what to do.
 
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You guys are the greatest. I reward him for being calm or sitting or laying down when he meets new people.

I'm not in North America. I'm in Egypt. There is quite a rampant fear of dogs here, and those that aren't afraid of dogs want to play the "bite my pant legs" game. So here I am trying to go against a whole flood. But he doesn't jump up on me.

Thanks again for the advice. We'll keep working on it. You guys are great.
 

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I'm in the same boat as you. My bernese mountain dog puppy LOVES to jump on people when she greets them. I tell the people we are staying with to ignore her and turn their back on her if she jumps but they don't listen and I have to end up crating her because they turn her into a hyper, horrible, little puppy. They tell me "oh I don't mind if she jumps on me" which is all well and good for them but I do mind and she's not their puppy so they should listen to the owner. I would suggest giving people treats and having them ask for a sit, or maneuver her into a sit and then treating and praising.
 

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I'm in the same boat as you. My bernese mountain dog puppy LOVES to jump on people when she greets them. I tell the people we are staying with to ignore her and turn their back on her if she jumps but they don't listen and I have to end up crating her because they turn her into a hyper, horrible, little puppy. They tell me "oh I don't mind if she jumps on me" which is all well and good for them but I do mind and she's not their puppy so they should listen to the owner.
I'm having the same problem. People say, "oh, I don't mind" well I DO!!
I guess I'm going to have to resort to telling them, "well, it's bothersome to me so we'll just go on our way" or if in my house, "well, I guess then you will have to leave." That's what I feel like saying.

Bailey doesn't jump that bad and in 2 minutes he's off laying down somewhere or if we're on a walk he'll lay down if I'm standing there talking to a neighbor. But I hate jumping. He doesn't jump on me though. But some of the people ask, "well, what am I supposed to do, he's jumping", I tell them, just DON"T look at him. But what do they do???? They look at him and talk to him...........sheesh! {throws up hands in defeat!!}}
 

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Same here !!! Ollie's terrible with visitors !! I really need more to correct him . When the door bell rings , I should put a leash on him and step on it ! Problem is we weigh the same and he wins . !! I've GOT to take him to obedience !! He's soooooo good one and one with me .
 

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Same here !!! Ollie's terrible with visitors !! I really need more to correct him . When the door bell rings , I should put a leash on him and step on it ! Problem is we weigh the same and he wins . !! I've GOT to take him to obedience !! He's soooooo good one and one with me .
Yeah, I know what 'cha mean.
I practice him (and the baby Chloe) by ringing my own doorbell...LOL
They sit, they stay, they get treats. That's with me ringing the stupid doorbell. You let someone else ring it then it's like a Midnight Madness sale at the Mall. But I must say, today someone rang the bell and Bailey was pretty good. Not bad, but not perfect. heeheeheehee
 

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