Global Warming!! Opinions?

[Renee750il]

Aw give the guy a break. Unless you are running your computer on solar panels or wind mills you are contributing to the planets polution. If you are like me, you are using public service provided electricity which comes from the mining and burning of coal which is absolutly destructive and filthy for the enviroment.

You should see what the extraction of coal does, firsthand. When I was spending a lot of time working up in the northeastern counties of Tennessee and eastern Kentucky, it was desolately clear to me. There are very few days in Campbell County when the mountain isn't on fire in at least one location because of coal mining. The topping, the stripping, water is polluted, valleys are filled . . .

 

[Dizzy]

:lol-sign:

You laugh now, what till I get there with my big beating stick :lol-sign:

 

[keyodie]

Actually, it is very possible that it will change in our lifetime (as in MY lifetime, but...). It's happening faster than we think it is. I had that same attitude myself- that global warming was just a natural process that we're speeding up, though it won't happen for quite a long time.

If you havn't seen it yet, see "An Inconvenient Truth". I can't believe I thought I knew about global warming before I watched that movie.

 

[Red_ACD_for_me]

I want to see that movie, we are getting it sometime this week. Al gore either is the narrator or the producer.... People need to wake up and stop thinking that its not happening now and start seeing that it is already has . And just a note...one way to help the enviroment is to stop driving those big gas guzzling 8 cylinder SUV's

 

[blue]

If the global temp trends had stayed more or less the same over the centuries Ild be worried.

The global climate has shifted many times and with or with out us and our preventive measures will continue to shift.

We should have had a global cooling in the 80s and 90s do to our polution and emision outputs.

 

[Renee750il]

Just don't be fooled into thinking that Al Gore is really all that environmentally sensitive. The reason he couldn't carry his home state - Tennessee - when he ran for president is because when HIS CONSTITUENTS in east Tennessee called on him to help get Champion paper mills in North Carolina to halt the dumping of dioxin and other toxins directly into the Pigeon River he turned a deaf ear. When called upon by HIS CONSTITUENTS to stop the pollutants Eastman Kodak was dumping directly into the Holston River in upper east Tennessee he turned his back. When begged by HIS CONSTITUENTS to at least investigate the horrific instances of brain, pancreatic and other deadly cancers not only in employees of American Enka/BASF in Hamblen County but also of surrounding residents, Al Gore walked away.

Yeah. He wrote a book about the environment. Yeah. He was involved in an environmental documentary. But what did he DO?

 

[blue]

Was it before or after Al Gore invented the internet, that he invented the environment?

 

[Renee750il]

Well, in the interests of fairness, this was a well researched article into that particular spate of media imbroglios http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5920188/the_press_vs_al_gore

 

[Denaluvscorgis]

I have to say that I'm very jealous of the warm weather the east coast is getting. It was 50 degrees here yesterday, and compared to the temps we've had, it seemed like summer! It's getting cold again in the next day or so. I guess winter is staying for a bit longer.

 

[Gempress]

Interesting website, Aussie.

But I'm still not quite convinced. First of all, the temperature change data it uses---keeping records from ancient trees, lakebeds, etc.---compares temperate changes within the last 2,000 years. That is basically nothing compared to the billions of years the earth has lasted. The Cretaceous Period alone, which was the last era of the dinosaurus, was over more than 65 million years ago.

The website does make refrence to us having the highest carbon levels in over 650,000 years. But once again, that is scarcely an eyeblink in Earth terms. For all we know, changes like this could be what caused the massive extinctions that happened periodically throughout earth's history.

That's not exactly a comforting thought either. But that doesn't mean that people are causing this change.

I do think that we need to stop spewing pollutants into the air. Smog, acid rain...those are all definate results of air pollution. But I just don't think there's enough info available yet to blame global climate change on air pollution.

 

[MelissaCato]

I have to say that I'm very jealous of the warm weather the east coast is getting. It was 50 degrees here yesterday, and compared to the temps we've had, it seemed like summer! It's getting cold again in the next day or so. I guess winter is staying for a bit longer.

I know the weather is nutzed up in Pennsylvania. I live near Hershey and no snow yet this year. I seen a few scattered flurries one day that was about it.
I remember my Geology teacher Mr. Gerber back in the early 90's, would tell us stories of what would happen during war and or big natural tragedies on earth. He would go on to say different parts of the world going to war how it would change other parts of the world with weather and disease. He drilled his theories into his classes. He was a German teacher here in the USA for 4 years, lucky me I had him 4 years. He was very serious about his class teachings and feedback.
And I can honestly say, of everything he tought me in 4 years ... has come true with the weather, science, diseases, global warming, war. He was like a book read years before the facts. Amazing.
He didn't predict September 11, 2001. But he did predict what would happen to the weather, seasons, mother nature in general ... after a tragedy like that day rising to our Atmosphere. He also lectured us on war in the East and how it would effect our part of the world with weather, gravity and directions with ocean movements. Which part of the world would be most at risk and who would win the war in the end. He said America would kill herself through nature if we ever went to war with the East acording to gravity, science and nature. He was always against "what we don't know, can't harm us". I guess I'll just wait and see what happens. He was one of my favorite teachers.

 

[Renee750il]

Wow, Melissa . . . you're making me jealous - I'd love to have sat in his classes!

 

[sparks19]

LOL you all demand someone do something about it. Who should be responsible for stopping it?

We all should. if you want global warming to slow back down, stop driving, stop using aerosols, basically stop everything you do these days becuase it all contributes to it. People want to scream and yell that the government isn't doing enough. It is OUR fault. not the governments fault, why should they have to clean up the mess WE made. It is YOUR fault, it is MY fault, it is my NEIGHBOURS fault. WE are responsible for it, we should be responsible for finding a solution.

Of course I don't see any of us selling our cars, or using only vinegar to clean our houses, etc etc.

This makes me think of a Simpsons episode LOL "Can't somebody ELSE do it" We want clean air but are unwilling to give up the luxuries we have become accustomed to.

it's not the Governments fault. it is OUR fault.

 

[Fran27]

Well, it's a bit the governement fault for not giving more subsidies to research to find other solutions. Or to develop busses, metros etc so that people don't need to use their car so much. But who are we kidding, they wouldn't get as much money that way.

It's just all about money, as always. Although I believe it could be normal for the weather to just warm up naturally, I believe it's a bit unrealistic to think that the stuff we've been sending in the air for the last 100 years hasn't changed anything.

 

[bubbatd]

Blue .... I was wondering that too !!! Why does Gore remind me of Forest Gump ??

 

[keyodie]

Yeah, I do agree that Al Gore didn't do much. But educating people is doing something. A lot of people don't know about global warming and how much trouble we're in, so creating a movie was a very good idea IMO.

It seems the only way to convince people to do something is to scare them witless these days...

 

[sparks19]

Well, it's a bit the governement fault for not giving more subsidies to research to find other solutions. Or to develop busses, metros etc so that people don't need to use their car so much. But who are we kidding, they wouldn't get as much money that way.

It's just all about money, as always. Although I believe it could be normal for the weather to just warm up naturally, I believe it's a bit unrealistic to think that the stuff we've been sending in the air for the last 100 years hasn't changed anything.

The thing is.... We have a perfectly good bus system here. Does anyone use it? NO because they want to drive their own cars instead of using public transportation. the most people I have ever seen on a bus here at a time is about 10. We are vain people, having a fancy car or SUV and driving it everywhere seems to say something about our social status (at least we like to think it does). it's wonderful to think that if we had more public transportation that everyone would use it but it's just not so.

 

[Red_ACD_for_me]

Yeah, I do agree that Al Gore didn't do much. But educating people is doing something. A lot of people don't know about global warming and how much trouble we're in, so creating a movie was a very good idea IMO.

It seems the only way to convince people to do something is to scare them witless these days...

I agree with you Keyodie! Though I don't care much for Al Gore at least he is "Trying" to educate people on the problem.

 

[bubbatd]

Then where does the theory that our clean ozone area is added to the earth's warming ???

 

[blue]

This makes me think of a Simpsons episode LOL "Can't somebody ELSE do it" We want clean air but are unwilling to give up the luxuries we have become accustomed to.

it's not the Governments fault. it is OUR fault.

Above all stop farting.

Blue .... I was wondering that too !!! Why does Gore remind me of Forest Gump ??

I allmost spit my beverage on my moniter.

The thing is.... We have a perfectly good bus system here. Does anyone use it? NO because they want to drive their own cars instead of using public transportation. the most people I have ever seen on a bus here at a time is about 10. We are vain people, having a fancy car or SUV and driving it everywhere seems to say something about our social status (at least we like to think it does). it's wonderful to think that if we had more public transportation that everyone would use it but it's just not so.

No bus system here and the population is to spread out to be viable without gov money.

I agree with you Keyodie! Though I don't care much for Al Gore at least he is "Trying" to educate people on the problem.

He is "trying" to panic people to keep himself in the public eye, possibly for political reasons MHO.