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I agree, Red, that is a requirement I wish more breeders had.

Honesty is the most important thing to me when it comes to buying from a breeder. I want to know if there are any abnormalities as far as health goes. I want to know the weak points of the dogs as well as the strong points.

I think a lot of breeders cover up health issues because most buyers expect perfection. They want a puppy from an impeccably healthy pedigree full of dual champions. They want the parents to be perfect and don't think anything less should be bred. Unfortunately, if the buyers had their way, the gene pool for their breed would be painfully small because there are very few, if any, dogs that are (more or less) flawless. If people culled the dogs that weren't the picture of perfection, the breed would rapidly fall apart or disappear entirely. I'm certainly not making excuses for these breeders that decieve people, but I think sometimes buyers need to be educated as well. Often times their expectations are unrealistic.

Eve's pedigree is about as squeaky clean as they come - the only known health issue was a granddam's hearing loss in her old age. As a buyer, I really liked that, but if I were to look at it from a breeder's perspective, it would be detrimental to the breed if only dogs with such clean pedigrees health-wise were bred. I'm not condoning careless breeding, mind you, but I have no problem with people who are fully aware and understanding of a health abnormality and breed their dog to a suitable mate, keeping that abnormality in mind. In my breed, a dog that is a good worker is a good worker. One little flaw in a superb working dog should not be the end-all for breeding decisions. Breeds will disappear if everyone holds everything about their dogs to a standard of perfection, and they'll go to ruin if nobody cares at all. It needs to rest somewhere in the middle.
 

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Honesty I guess is the reason i really like my aussie breeder.

I have always lived with GSD's. When I decided to "defect" *vbg*..there were a couple of other herding breeds that I looked at but there weren't breeders of those dogs in my area that impressed me, since it was a going to be a "new" breed for me. I didn't want to ship a dog.

So I turned to aussies, which are pretty abundant in my area. I found Jynx's breeder off ASCNE's breeder referral site (along with several others), and checked a few out. Jynx's breeder immediately impressed me, with her knowledge and her total honesty of health problems she had encountered, what she was doing to eradicate them (remove dogs from lines etc)..Her health testing, her dogs, etc.

So I took a leap of faith and let HER pick a puppy for me (which I had never done before either!) I must say, she had me pretty nervous there for awhile, telling me she had her eye on this "spitfire" of a puppy, who at 4 weeks of age was the first one to climb a 4ft babygate, trot thru the house looking for her "people",,yada yada,,I thought I was going to be in BIG trouble with some little squirt from down under...I have never been happier with the results. She pegged that puppy perfectly. She's always been there for us , with health crisis's, and sharing our triumph's..

It doesn't hurt that we get 150$ per title either *vbg*.

So I'd say she has been the "best" breeder I've dealt with, even tho my last GSD, Dodge, I've had nothing but good things to say about as well.
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I must point out that there is one health test that Penny did not pass. According to OFA, she has Grade 1 DJD in her left elbow, with the right being normal.
I have the same issue with one of my Dobermans although it's in opposite elbows (left is normal, right is grade 1 DJD).

I don't know how prevalent a problem it is in rottweilers. It's not really prevalent in Dobermans, but that said, there aren't really a lot of Doberman breeders testing for it. It is becoming a little more the norm to test for it in Dobes but a slow go ...

Anyway, as I said, Wish was graded with DJD in her right elbow when she was 2. I never would have known without OFAing - there was no physical indication to my eye. She's 9 years old now, and there still isn't. I mean, maybe she couldn't have been an agility dog or done well in advanced obedience but those weren't goals I had *with her*.

I agonized over whether to breed Wish or not (she is a Ch. CD, CGC, OFA excellent hips, vWD carrier, thyroid normal, CERF normal, cardiac ultrasound and Holter normal). I eventually did decide to breed her once and I specifically asked the owners of the stud that I was interested in to get his elbows done, which they did. There were only 2 puppies born - the one is a spayed pet who has owners with no interest in testing her elbows, the other's elbows are OFA normal. Hopefully, I moved past the problem successfully. All of my breeding dogs do get tested for elbows but it can be difficult to find stud dogs that have been (in Dobermans).
 

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I'm glad someone mentioned the Redcloud Chow Chows, I really love the dogs from that line and wish I found more breeders with dogs like them.

My personal favourite kennel is Bluevine Akitas. I've fallen in love with so many of the breeder's dogs, watched many grow up through videos and pictures, and really hope to one day personally own an Akita from them. They are the only breeder that I have found to be just as awesome a person out of the dog world as they are in the dog world. The woman is very easy to relate to as well, as she is so easy going with most people she talks to.
I like seeing that in a breeder; someone who can talk as a friend, and not just someone selling you a puppy. That, to me, is important.

I also really love the Melodor Akitas as well, but haven't been able to speak with the breeders.
 

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Zoom, I got my aussie from Harmonyhill Aussies, www.harmonyhillaussies.com
in harwinton CT,

Jynx is out of a female of hers and a Propwash dog. Breeder has alot of old Bayshore lines, lately she's been using some Stormridge dogs..

Her website doesn't do her justice, she is more into the conformation end of things, (altho she tells me she has started herding, she needs one more title to HOF her kennel) I'd say 95% of her dogs (that she sells) are out competing in all avenues not just conformation.

Another thing I like about her, is she is involved in resuce, will always and insists on returning a dog she has produced to her for whatever reason. She keeps them until she can find a suitable home for them (if ever) and then will place them for free/no adoption fee.

In fact, a friend of mine just took a "nephew" of mine, at 18mths of age. Was raised with kids (who tormented him with a flash of camera :(() had obed training,,his "flaw"? He was playing with all the kids, and scratched a neighborhood kid,,the parents took the kid to the ER (for a scratch!) cops involved, people insisted the dog was viscious (while the dog was sitting on the cops laps:)) She took him back immediately,,he's living like a king with a friend of mine,,a really nice dog..

Her dogs aren't cheap, but she stands behind everything 100%..
Diane
 

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my favorite breeder is the lady that bred our Bailey and Willow Snowolf Alaskan Malamutes, not only is she a mine of information she breeds ethically, has the breed formost in her mind, is my mentor and friend,

MO
 

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I'm glad someone mentioned the Redcloud Chow Chows, I really love the dogs from that line and wish I found more breeders with dogs like them.
Glad to hear you know the Redcloud lines! I am so impressed with them overall. My young girl, Khana, has 21 Redcloud dogs in her four generation pedigree. I was looking for a bitch to work in performance events and found Khana. I feel so lucky to have her.

I really like Akitas too .. my good friend has Akitas and shows her male in conformation and has a rally title on him too. I don't know the lines of her dog, though. He's a handsome boy but pretty sharp in temperament and downright obnoxious as a young dog .. *L* .. he's mellowed as he's gotten older though. I'm hoping she will put obedience titles on him as well as rally.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 

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Zoom, I got my aussie from Harmonyhill Aussies, www.harmonyhillaussies.com
in harwinton CT,

Jynx is out of a female of hers and a Propwash dog. Breeder has alot of old Bayshore lines, lately she's been using some Stormridge dogs..

Her website doesn't do her justice, she is more into the conformation end of things, (altho she tells me she has started herding, she needs one more title to HOF her kennel) I'd say 95% of her dogs (that she sells) are out competing in all avenues not just conformation.

Another thing I like about her, is she is involved in resuce, will always and insists on returning a dog she has produced to her for whatever reason. She keeps them until she can find a suitable home for them (if ever) and then will place them for free/no adoption fee.

In fact, a friend of mine just took a "nephew" of mine, at 18mths of age. Was raised with kids (who tormented him with a flash of camera :(() had obed training,,his "flaw"? He was playing with all the kids, and scratched a neighborhood kid,,the parents took the kid to the ER (for a scratch!) cops involved, people insisted the dog was viscious (while the dog was sitting on the cops laps:)) She took him back immediately,,he's living like a king with a friend of mine,,a really nice dog..

Her dogs aren't cheap, but she stands behind everything 100%..
Diane
Sounds pretty good. I'm glad she's using the old Bayshore lines and not the newer ones. The Bayshore kennel is a local name around here and the owner doesn't have a terribly good reputation with the local Aussie crowd, even the ones more into the conf/comp. obedience side of things.
 

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Why Fox Fire Farms is my favourite breeder

Jeannine De Palma of Fox Fire Farms is the breeder of Fox Fire Kim Possible; my Central Asian Shepherd puppy, and I will absolutely recommend her dogs, her philosophies and her general dog knowledge to anyone interested in this fascinating breed.

She passes muster with regards to;
health tests and unconditional guarantees, breed specific and general dog information, rescue (her breed and others), breeding practices, conformation showing (UKC Gr Ch - first for the breed, and #1 Top Ten - Premier here we come), Livestock Guardian duties, temperament tests, puppy buyer support for all questions, puppy selection, sold puppy contact (has her own yahoo group for puppy owners).
http://centralasianshepherd.com

Two things that really cemented our friendship and my desire to own a Fox Fire dog; were; 1; she never stops learning, she has never been a know-it-all; she will keep reading, researching, uses the information that suits her breed and her personal dogs; assists buyers in using the information; but acknowledges that each person is going to do it slightly different and she understands; is willing to help you try new things.
2. People who weren't in the breed; but owned performance (APBT breeders and Schutzhund trainers as well as others) dogs of other breeds; were recommending her to me; were happy and excited for me that she had agreed to get me a pup.

I waited just over 8 mos. to get Kim (who I've had for almost 1 year now), and I couldn't be happier with Jeannine, her dogs, her help and of course my Kimmaroo.
 
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ok, nevermind, scratch off Hershey's breeder. :( Sadly, they were backyard breeders.. :( I asked my mom if his parents were in or out, and they were out. I know, he only bites when there is trash around/something he gets that he is not supposed to have, I know, that breeder, nevermind. He is a great dog, but, not a breeder I would reccomend. like you guys said. Sadly, he only bites me.. :confused: Because I am the horrible person, who always takes things away from him.. but I know what you guys are saying. :)
 
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This lady is super nice. She not only breeds good quality Dalmatians, she also does tons of rescue, if I were to buy a show Dal, I would come to her first:
http://www.melodykennels.com/

I also really like this lady too: http://www.dalawaydalmatians.com/

If I were buying a show Dal (only way I would buy a pure bred dog from a breeder) I would choose one of those two...

Another criteria for me buying a dal from a breeder would be that the breeder doesnt euthanize deaf Dalmatian puppies (which most "responsible" Dalmatian breeders do, it's quite sad).
 
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My mom and dad are fabulous breeders, obviously. I ****ing rock!

My DNA is tight yo.

Stacked, you know, Stacked?
 
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I'm a teen! I hate that language! Its annoying. I only say it, when I am really mad. But, ug, my friends do it all the time, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it! My English is not the best though. shrugs, oh well. lol, here is a Doberman breeder, that seems good, she does testing, breeds for temper, conformation, and health, and she does a lot with her dogs, its crazy! lol, not really, its just, it looks like fun. :)

http://www.anjelicdobes.com/index.htm

Although shes not a professional handler, Roxy looks really good! But, I believe she breeds for all the right things. What do you guys think?
 

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Not all teens are that bad. I see what a lot of people mean, but I'm a teen, and I would never act like that.
 
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I know most teens are like that. But there are some VERY mature teens on here :) (myself included)
 

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