clicker training?
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luvmydogs said:
oh my gosh at first i thought he got hit by the van.lol i love police dogs...they do their job so well...
why the heck did he bite the cops arm?????? those dogs are suposed to let go on command. that is so weird!!!!!!!!
why the heck did he bite the cops arm?????? those dogs are suposed to let go on command. that is so weird!!!!!!!!
When malinois are active working and they had a bite before, they are really so hot on the work that they want to bite everything what is moving. They don’t mean it that way but they are reacting the same like two fighting dogs. If you try to get them from another they will also bite you.
I often wrote here that Dutch police dogs are very hard in taking, and do not mind when the terrorist is hitting or kicking then, they only will bite harder.
I often wrote here that Dutch police dogs are very hard in taking, and do not mind when the terrorist is hitting or kicking then, they only will bite harder.
Well Doberluv, in Holland privet people are training the dogs for the police on knpv clubs for about 2,5 year. Until the exam the dogs are on command stop to bite. It is so that after the final exam the dogs which are sold to the police are made raw what mean that the dogs don’t stop to bite on command because it will make the dogs harder and stronger. I suppose they also do the same in France.
Darn! My dinocomputor couldn't digest the link!
I think what we are talking about is the "Green-Barret's" of the dog world!
The bite, is itself a reward for these "ROBO-DOGS". Some high performance dogs seem to really get off on this. Kind of like young teenage men adrenaline junkies! Same obsession as with a ball reward. Hmmm, are we talking about a certain "reward" center of the brain again?
These are working dogs. Soldiers, if you will. As long as the dog has the drive and a handler he works well with, "A working dog, is a happy dog."
I doubt these dogs are ever bored.
I think what we are talking about is the "Green-Barret's" of the dog world!
The bite, is itself a reward for these "ROBO-DOGS". Some high performance dogs seem to really get off on this. Kind of like young teenage men adrenaline junkies! Same obsession as with a ball reward. Hmmm, are we talking about a certain "reward" center of the brain again?
These are working dogs. Soldiers, if you will. As long as the dog has the drive and a handler he works well with, "A working dog, is a happy dog."
I doubt these dogs are ever bored.
I use the clicker regularily, but I could do well without it. It isn't some kind of magic noise the dog automatically responds to, and sees as a reward mark. It must first be conditioned, and the reason it works so well to mark a correct behaviour is because it has such a crisp and distinctive sound, as opposed to human speech, which dogs hear all day long.
I've succesfully taugh all levels of obedience with a clicker, and have used nought but "positive" methods in everything I've ever done. I've never once needed to use physical avoidance methods, nor have I had to reprimand any dog with any kind of collar. All I have to do is tap into the dogs drives and motivation. Once the dog realisis that learning with me is the best thing in his world, there is no need to punish him. I use his own desires to my benifit, instead of against it.
I've succesfully taugh all levels of obedience with a clicker, and have used nought but "positive" methods in everything I've ever done. I've never once needed to use physical avoidance methods, nor have I had to reprimand any dog with any kind of collar. All I have to do is tap into the dogs drives and motivation. Once the dog realisis that learning with me is the best thing in his world, there is no need to punish him. I use his own desires to my benifit, instead of against it.
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okay im sorry maybe this seems like im being a bitch but that dog was biting that cop there fore that dog wasnt doing what it was told that dog needs more training numberone... and those dogs would respond to clicker... very well... because they would realize clicker means to let loose or good job let go... it isnt rocket science to figure out to try some alternate way to get these dogs to stop biting and not to bite their handlers LOL
In Holland privet people are training the dogs for the police on knpv clubs for about 2,5 year. Until the exam the dogs are on command stop to bite. It is so that after the final exam the dogs which are sold to the police are made raw what mean that the dogs don’t stop to bite on command because it will make the dogs harder and stronger. I suppose they also do the same in France
Renee750il said:
I wish I could draw, Angelique. Your post has put the funniest cartoon in my head Two dogs, wearing Special Services berets, standing there talking. One says to the other, "Wanna go grab a bite?"
Two dogs, wearing Special Services berets, standing there talking. One says to the other, "Wanna go grab a bite?"
And then the other one says, "Wait a second...I better go get my clicker, I'm on a diet."
Wow, first time on this thread.... I am an animal trainer... trained lots of animals, in the most positive, contructive way.
Clicker training is awesome, corrective collar training is great for dogs too. IF used correctly. You are not supposed to choke the dog. As for the chain corrective collars, they should have an instructual manual with it because they can be put on backwards and crush the lyranx. It should go on like a "P" facing the owner, not like a "q." I don't have the time, nor do any of you for me to write a 25 page note on how to properly use a training collar. But you can use a training collar, voice commands, hand signals and a clicker and get the same results depending on YOUR knowledge of training.
As stated above by someone, ALL DOG/ANIMAL training should be postive, and positive reinforcement is the answer.
Also, NEVER train any animal/pet and leave them with a negative ending, ALWAYS end on a postive note, and reward. Even if it's a simple command. Animals, not just elephants remember, and no one wants to feel bad. If anyone gets anything I am saying, please get that you end on a postive note with your pet. You will reap the rewards later and make an animal happy along the way.
Clicker training is awesome, corrective collar training is great for dogs too. IF used correctly. You are not supposed to choke the dog. As for the chain corrective collars, they should have an instructual manual with it because they can be put on backwards and crush the lyranx. It should go on like a "P" facing the owner, not like a "q." I don't have the time, nor do any of you for me to write a 25 page note on how to properly use a training collar. But you can use a training collar, voice commands, hand signals and a clicker and get the same results depending on YOUR knowledge of training.
As stated above by someone, ALL DOG/ANIMAL training should be postive, and positive reinforcement is the answer.
Also, NEVER train any animal/pet and leave them with a negative ending, ALWAYS end on a postive note, and reward. Even if it's a simple command. Animals, not just elephants remember, and no one wants to feel bad. If anyone gets anything I am saying, please get that you end on a postive note with your pet. You will reap the rewards later and make an animal happy along the way.
Lots of truth there! They do remember! I saw a graphic illustration of it the other day. Charley was ticked off at Shiva for standing on the porch and barking instead of just going and investigating and told her he was disappointed in her. She moped for a day and a half. I can't believe it took me that long to figure out what was wrong with her! She followed me around with a sad face, sighing and whimpering softly. Every time I'd sit down she'd try to climb in my lap (all 130+ pounds of her) and was just generally depressed and a sad, sad pup. She would just sit and look at Charley from across the room. Then it dawned on me and I told Charley what was wrong and that he'd better make up with her. At first he didn't believe it, but he decided to humor me. He told her he was sorry for hurting her feelings and hugged her, but she wasn't happy until he told her he she was a good grrrrl. Once he did that, she bounced back to her old self.