Certain Breed People
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We don't need the corgi herding instinct anymore, most never see livestock and therefore they should just be bred as good pets. 
Most of the corgi people I know are pretty cool, although perhaps slightly obsessed with the breed.
One of the worst things though from corgi people is that they think they actually need to feed more because the dog is looking for food. And then they end up with a 50 pound corgi. Another is those who believe these dogs can't do much because they don't have legs.Malinois?
That reactive with no off switch is good and desirable and correct.
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Most of the corgi people I know are pretty cool, although perhaps slightly obsessed with the breed. One of the worst things though from corgi people is that they think they actually need to feed more because the dog is looking for food. And then they end up with a 50 pound corgi. Another is those who believe these dogs can't do much because they don't have legs.
Malinois?
That reactive with no off switch is good and desirable and correct.
Most of the corgi people I know are pretty cool, although perhaps slightly obsessed with the breed.
One of the worst things though from corgi people is that they think they actually need to feed more because the dog is looking for food. And then they end up with a 50 pound corgi. Another is those who believe these dogs can't do much because they don't have legs.Malinois?
That reactive with no off switch is good and desirable and correct.
I was in petsmart the other day and the cashier said to me in these words exactly "I love the kinds of dogs with the legs so short their bellies drag on the ground" when she saw a dachshund that was either really fat or really pregnant (and it was NOT a good representation of the breed) with it's whole underside sliding along the ground. Yes sliding, not just dragging, it was fully on the ground...
I wanted to smack her AND the owner of that dog.
I wanted to smack her AND the owner of that dog.
Another thing I've heard from owners of both breeds is that they don't really "need" training because everyone knows either breed is bound to be "the perfect family dog" by virtue of their breed alone.
So they get a cute and cuddly Lab or Golden pup and it gets little or nothing in the way of training ... they housebreak it but that's about it. Then they wonder WHY they end up with a big adolescent dog who counter surfs, raids the garbage anytime it smells like food, and jumps up on the kids and knocks them down.
Like duh ... train your dog and he/she won't do those things.
So they get a cute and cuddly Lab or Golden pup and it gets little or nothing in the way of training ... they housebreak it but that's about it. Then they wonder WHY they end up with a big adolescent dog who counter surfs, raids the garbage anytime it smells like food, and jumps up on the kids and knocks them down.
Like duh ... train your dog and he/she won't do those things.
Many people tend to think Goldens and Labs are "easy" breeds. They tend to forget they are working breeds with lots of energy. Its sad how many 6 month-1 year old Labs and Goldens I see on craigslist. And why are they there? Too much energy and destructive behavior.
It frustrates me. Because pretty much every Labrador book or website tells you to expect this behavior. Labs tend to keep their puppy mentality until they are 2-3 years old. And honestly it doesent take much to get them through those "puppy years" just some patience, understanding, and lots and lots of exercise and mental stimulation.
My friends are constantly saying how they can't beleive how well behaved Sawyer is (most of the time
). And I just tell them it has taken alot of time with the occasional mistakes to get him where he is today. Not yet perfect but better behaved than most young Labs I know.
wowie people ive seen the extreemly "blonde" wowie owners, the ones who like fran said belive wowies are fashion acessories, uncapable of being real dogs, walking ect and spend more money dressing their dogs than on the dogs actual diet or health...
on the other hand theres the people on the other side of the extreem who think their wowies are "just like" big dogs, can live outside full time and dont understand the nuances of the breed...
its rare i meet the "normal" wowie owners who have that nice inbetween...(i think there all here on chaz lol)
with cresties i honestly havent met enough crestie people to realy form an opinion...most "strange" crestie comments come form people unfamiliar with the breed...
on the other hand theres the people on the other side of the extreem who think their wowies are "just like" big dogs, can live outside full time and dont understand the nuances of the breed...
its rare i meet the "normal" wowie owners who have that nice inbetween...(i think there all here on chaz lol)
with cresties i honestly havent met enough crestie people to realy form an opinion...most "strange" crestie comments come form people unfamiliar with the breed...
Border Collie people... don't get me started.
First we have the working enthusiasts. While they are the ones out for the best interest of the breed, they are SO INTO their own beliefs that they become rancid elitists, turning their noses up at people who do anything but get a puppy from a working breeder. The attitudes I've seen on these people can be so vile that it makes people NOT want working BCs, which is the exact opposite of what they are striving for.
Sport people. Sigh. Faster faster faster FASTER! They treat heir dogs like Olympic athletes. Training hours a day, conditioning, vitamins and supplements, miniscule attention to injuries. The dog becomes less a dog and more a vehicle to attach titles to.
Show BCs... bred as fluffy black and white goldens by their owners. 'nuff said about those Border Collie people.
That said, I know wondrous, awesome people in both the working and sport fields as well. But this is about THOSE people, so...
First we have the working enthusiasts. While they are the ones out for the best interest of the breed, they are SO INTO their own beliefs that they become rancid elitists, turning their noses up at people who do anything but get a puppy from a working breeder. The attitudes I've seen on these people can be so vile that it makes people NOT want working BCs, which is the exact opposite of what they are striving for.
Sport people. Sigh. Faster faster faster FASTER! They treat heir dogs like Olympic athletes. Training hours a day, conditioning, vitamins and supplements, miniscule attention to injuries. The dog becomes less a dog and more a vehicle to attach titles to.
Show BCs... bred as fluffy black and white goldens by their owners. 'nuff said about those Border Collie people.
That said, I know wondrous, awesome people in both the working and sport fields as well. But this is about THOSE people, so...
Border Collie people... don't get me started.
First we have the working enthusiasts. While they are the ones out for the best interest of the breed, they are SO INTO their own beliefs that they become rancid elitists, turning their noses up at people who do anything but get a puppy from a working breeder. The attitudes I've seen on these people can be so vile that it makes people NOT want working BCs, which is the exact opposite of what they are striving for.
Sport people. Sigh. Faster faster faster FASTER! They treat heir dogs like Olympic athletes. Training hours a day, conditioning, vitamins and supplements, miniscule attention to injuries. The dog becomes less a dog and more a vehicle to attach titles to.
Show BCs... bred as fluffy black and white goldens by their owners. 'nuff said about those Border Collie people.
That said, I know wondrous, awesome people in both the working and sport fields as well. But this is about THOSE people, so...
First we have the working enthusiasts. While they are the ones out for the best interest of the breed, they are SO INTO their own beliefs that they become rancid elitists, turning their noses up at people who do anything but get a puppy from a working breeder. The attitudes I've seen on these people can be so vile that it makes people NOT want working BCs, which is the exact opposite of what they are striving for.
Sport people. Sigh. Faster faster faster FASTER! They treat heir dogs like Olympic athletes. Training hours a day, conditioning, vitamins and supplements, miniscule attention to injuries. The dog becomes less a dog and more a vehicle to attach titles to.
Show BCs... bred as fluffy black and white goldens by their owners. 'nuff said about those Border Collie people.
That said, I know wondrous, awesome people in both the working and sport fields as well. But this is about THOSE people, so...
The lady who bred for flyball apparently thought my dog would break out because here BCs are bred for energy and nothing else- so they end up being dogs who have no "off switch" to speak of. They're obsessive with NO self control. They do pretty well in the sport but they're too hyperactive to do anything else. I know Border Collies, I know high energy- this is something so completely way over the top, something different. And she isn't the only one.
Seeing the Border Collie temperament transformed into a Bichon Frise temperament is just as bad, just in a different way.
I have a feeling I just typed a lot without saying much.
Chow people...hmm..
there are the ones who feel human aggression is normal. (it is not) They cannot understand that "aloof" does not mean "aggressive". If my dog is aloof (which Aesop is not, btw) they may ignore the company sitting on your couch. They do not go nip said company if the person looks at them funny. On a Chow board I go to, almost every bite must be a human's fault..
There are some who feel rescue is the only way to go. Those same people usually don't understand the difference between a byb Chow and a well bred one. In their minds, all breeder dogs are the same. I'm all for adoption, but I am also a fan of well bred dogs.
They can't be trained to do "stuff".
Not everyone is like that, and many on the board do have well mannered dogs, be they from rescues or breeders. But the other mindset is just annoying.
there are the ones who feel human aggression is normal. (it is not) They cannot understand that "aloof" does not mean "aggressive". If my dog is aloof (which Aesop is not, btw) they may ignore the company sitting on your couch. They do not go nip said company if the person looks at them funny. On a Chow board I go to, almost every bite must be a human's fault..
There are some who feel rescue is the only way to go. Those same people usually don't understand the difference between a byb Chow and a well bred one. In their minds, all breeder dogs are the same. I'm all for adoption, but I am also a fan of well bred dogs.
They can't be trained to do "stuff".
Not everyone is like that, and many on the board do have well mannered dogs, be they from rescues or breeders. But the other mindset is just annoying.
