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[juliefurry]

Yes,Elin, I did misunderstand Orion. I also apologized for it as well. Does anyone know any more about this pitbull attack? The reason I ask is because my boy Mack came from a breeder in Indy. They bred white pitbulls with blue eyes. I know there are probably a lot of white blue eyed pits down there but I was just wondering. Was the dog just a family pet? I tried watching the news last night but I couldn't find anything about it. I live pretty close to Indy, and I'm hoping this dog wasn't from my Mack's breeder. It's doubtful, but also possible at the same time.

 

[Amstaffer]

Blue eyed pitbulls? Sounds like some experimenting to me. "Pitbulls" come in all sizes and shapes but that is a new one to me. Thats the bad thing about the term Pitbull....Its not even a "breed" any more. All these back yard breeders have been breeding for size, huge heads....etc. Now Blue eyes....hmmmm

 

[bogolove]

That's for sure! The media will just latch on to any ~wave~ of news they can and make it seem bigger than it is just to be newsworthy. My Mom and I were in the Caribbean a few years back when all the shark attack stories were the rage with the media. We went to a restaurant on the water that was known for "ringing the dinner bell" for the sharks and they would swim up and the water was literally BOILING with huge sharks of all shapes and sizes! There was a USA Today reporter there to cover a story on how people felt about that. She ended up having dinner with us -- it was pretty cool and she was very nice (just doing her job). I got quoted in USA Today! I stated that I didn't agree with it and we just wanted a nice meal. The sharks weren't what drew us there. And especially with so many swimming beaches right there on the premises, it wasn't very smart to be doing that. That if people want to see sharks, go to an aquarium and let nature take its course. In other words, don't antagonize the situation...

Not to get too off topic here, but was that in the Bahamas? I have been to that place if it was.

 

[EliNHunter]

Not to get too off topic here, but was that in the Bahamas? I have been to that place if it was.

Yes, it was!

 

[showpug]

You know the whole pitbull issue is just really sad and I hate hearing it Over the 5 years that I worked in the vet clinic we saw pitbulls everyday. I would put them at the top of my list for the most loving and happy dogs we saw. I remember my favorite one that would come in and immediatley roll over for a belly rub. He never flintched (sp) through vaccines or blood draws and he lived in a kid filled family. He was such a good boy and always behaved himself. There was also Pheobe who we saved from Parvo as a puppy...she grew into a healthy and extremeley loving adult dog. It was always so sad to see her in the waiting room as she would try to visit everyone in there. When the people who were petting her would ask the owner what breed she was and he would say pitbull they would shy away and not want to pet her anymore. That is where I would jump in and help the owner by saying "this is Pheobe and she's one of our best and friendliest patients!" I loved that pooch and hated to see people discriminate. These dogs came from loving families. We did on occasion see the "tough" guy bring their pits in with chains around their necks that you would buy at a hardware store so the dog would look tough. They were always named Tank, Tyson, or Jaws...you get the picture. Even their pits were nice and gentle with us on almost every occasion. Now let me tell you about all the labs, goldens, american eskimos, doxies, poodles, chi's...the list goes on with the breeds that would act up and try to bite us. The one breed that we could always expect a bite from no matter what was the American Eskimo...don't know why, but they were very hard to work with.

 

[Rose's Gal]

My mom was telling me more info about that attack. I don't know the fate of the dog, but I know more about the situation.

The Mail Lady said that the reason the dog went after her was because it was just defending its territory. She said that Mail people have to be very careful because when they go up to a house, they can suprise dogs, and a suprised dogs first instinct is to defend its territory (a.k.a. Bite). She said that the bite was her fault because she failed to "anounce" that she was there, so the dog became defensive. The dog chased after her while the whole intire family was outside trying to stop it. It went to bite her face, but she threw her arm up, so it bit her arm instead. The whole family was outside trying to get it, and they finally got it off of her. The Mail Lady doesn't want the dog destroyed and didn't pin any of it on the dog being a Pit Bull.
They also interviewed another Mail dude and he said that he was never attacked by a dog because he makes sure he makes lots of noise when he comes to diliver the mail, so the dogs know he is there. He said the only animal he was attacked by was a cat, and he said, "You try getting one of those things off of you!" lol

 

[gapeach]

I'm glad to hear the lady feels that way. I hope everything works out.

 

[Amstaffer]

Over the 5 years that I worked in the vet clinic we saw pitbulls everyday. I would put them at the top of my list for the most loving and happy dogs we saw.

Yep....My two Amstaffs are the only dogs I have ever had who actually like to see the Vet. Even after they go through shoots, surgery and other painful procedures, they still love that Vet and can't wait to see him.

 

[oriondw]

I dont know, i never got the mail men agression thing. Are these dogs just that thick headed? I mean I have a dog that is extremely territorial and is probably 100 times more protective then most breeds but it would never attack a mailmen or a gardener when they are by our house doing their jobs

Do these dogs not learn? They see the person everyday without them causing any harm, why would they attack?

 

[gapeach]

I think just in general any dog who attacks someone like this is just not socialized with people and usually just a thrown in the yard or tied up dog.

 

[Amstaffer]

Yeah they learn like every breed faster than some, slower that others. To me from what Rose's Gal said it sounds to me like the dog learned that it was HIS area and not the family's. The dog seems to be the dominant being in that family.

I just can't get over the attack part period, I have three pitbulls on my block besides my 2 and they all love the Mail man (he carries cookies). My mail man says the only dog on his route that he worries about is a Shar-Pei.

Why Mail men...Good question, maybe it is because they get so close to the personal area of the family. I know when I lived in the country it was the gas man who often had to look right in your back yard. The poor gas man would tell me all kinds of stories about mean dogs.

 

[gapeach]

My mama's meter man carried a pair of binoculars with him, just for that reason.

 

[juliefurry]

My dog will bark but he wouldn't (atleast I don't think he would) attack. He's met our mail lady a few times and he didn't seem to have any problems with her. He's never over friendly with her (he's never really over friendly with people that don't live in the house). I don't think my dog would ever attack unless we were being threatened in some way.

 

[bubbatd]

I haven't read any more up dates.....The dog didn't have blue eyes, but was a lovely looking pitt.

 

[Rose's Gal]

Another reason dogs are aggresive to delivery men and mail men and all of that is because normally, they will bark the whole time the dude is at the house, and then the dude goes away. They think, "Hey, I acted all mean and scary and he went away! Let's try it again!"

 

[bogolove]

I dont know, i never got the mail men agression thing. Are these dogs just that thick headed? I mean I have a dog that is extremely territorial and is probably 100 times more protective then most breeds but it would never attack a mailmen or a gardener when they are by our house doing their jobs

Do these dogs not learn? They see the person everyday without them causing any harm, why would they attack?

This reminds me of the other day I was eating lunch across the street from my work and I could see outside. A family was outside eating ice cream at Ben and Jerry's and they had their rottie tied to the tree right beside them. TONS of people walked by and would pat the dog and he sat there happy as could be. (I had a perfect view out the window and I like to people watch), I watched this for like 25 minutes, the dog happy as can be. Then the mailman walked by and I promise when he walked by that dog, the dog did a snap at his bottom, but I don't think the mailman noticed. It looked almost like the dog was laughing about it after it happened. He didn't touch him, he and he wasn't mean to anyone at all, I guess he just wasn't fond of the mailman. It must be some sort of joke in the doggy world.

 

[oriondw]

Another reason dogs are aggresive to delivery men and mail men and all of that is because normally, they will bark the whole time the dude is at the house, and then the dude goes away. They think, "Hey, I acted all mean and scary and he went away! Let's try it again!"

Still dont get it. My dog barked at them few times, then I simply told him to calm down and he hasnt cared about those people at all.

Ah well, I guess it depends on how much time you put into the dog.

 

[casablanca1]

Well I am not sure about this group? I have always thought myself as very logical and rational about this topic. If anyone tries to protect Pitbull owners who abuse, neglect or encourage aggression in their dogs is no friend of mine and I agree with you that this can be harmful to the breed and to people. I just see a LOT more of the anti-pit bull hysteria. The biggest drawback of the breed is the prejudice you have to face when you own and walk one.

Cheered by the fact that although we still disagree, we haven't resorted to witchiness. Thanks for the civilized argument.

 

[casablanca1]

She said that the bite was her fault because she failed to "anounce" that she was there, so the dog became defensive. The dog chased after her while the whole intire family was outside trying to stop it. It went to bite her face, but she threw her arm up, so it bit her arm instead. The whole family was outside trying to get it, and they finally got it off of her. The Mail Lady doesn't want the dog destroyed and didn't pin any of it on the dog being a Pit Bull.

Here's hoping no one else ever surprises the dog. Honestly, this mailman sounds like one stupid woman. Any dog will snap if surprised, but actually biting down, going for the face and requiring a crowd to pry it off human flesh are three bad signs.

 

[Amstaffer]

Ah well, I guess it depends on how much time you put into the dog.

We usually disagree but you are right on there, I agree totally with your comment. If these people would spend more quality time with their dogs this would not happen.

actually biting down, going for the face and requiring a crowd to pry it off human flesh are three bad signs.

We agree on more things than you think, I agree this dog has issues and should be rehomed or the family should be forced to get training on how to handle their dog. Where I think we will most likely differ is the cause of the problem. If the dog had been raised correctly this would never of happen regardless of what the mail person would have done.