Anesthesia Sensitivity-need advice

[Kmh1]

Hi Everyone

I just recently became the proud owner of a 9 month old Manchester Terrier. His breeder provided me with extensive medical records and info about anesthesia sensitivity for when he needs to be neutered etc. Apparently lean dogs like whippets, greyhounds, and Manchesters do not metabolize "pre-meds" well before anesthesia and can die if not "gassed down" directly. Well, I gave the informational sheet to the vet and she got very defensive and said they would not directly gas down a dog--that it was cruel and unecessary. She said all the vets in the office would refuse to do the procedure this way. Any advice, feedback from anyone's experiences --or what you're vet thinks about this would be so appreciated. I have always trusted my vet, but I would feel terrible if anything happend to my new pup and the breeder was very emphatic about it. Thanks again for any help.

Kerry
(in NJ)

 

[bubbatd]

I wish I could help . I would go by the vet if you trust her. The breeder may have had some bad experiences within her own breedings. Luckily you have time to look into this. At this point I wouldn't neuter until you find out more info. My FIL had a Boston Terrier he kenneled at a very good vet's. He was very anxious and they gave him a tranquilizer. He died. I personally felt it had to do with the dog's genetics rather than an over dose.

 

[Renee750il]

I'd contact the breeder to get a referral to his/her vet if you are close enough. If not, check and see if there is a Manchester club or a club that deals with one of the other breeds that are sensitive and get a referral from them to a good vet who can deal with this type of dog.

 

[lpollockandrsn]

Try another office to see if you get the same reaction. They ought to even be able to answer that on the phone.

There are different kinds of pre-anesthesias, you might check into the different types... is it Ketamine/Valium they are sensitive to? There must be other things out there. I know this breed is sensitive to anesthesias and I have known vets to just use gas but I am not sure what the cons are to it.

 

[smkie]

italian greyhounds are the same way and we had to find a special vet that knew how before my mom could get her two spay. I would certainly call around! Does your breeder have a vet to recommend? something like that would be well worth the drive. I didn't know english pointers were sensitive and Vic had a horrible reaction. IT wasn't until another member here said they had the same thing happen and if i am not mistaken lost one dog due to the reaction of the gas that i understood the dangers. WE should compile a list of breeds that are sensitive. Since i received Vic from save our strays i had not a clue.

 

[Kmh1]

Thank you all for the responses--I am definitely going to make some phone calls--someone also suggested I contact the local Greyhound rescue as they have similar anesthesia issues. I am also going to contact the "main" vet in the office I go to--I usually deal with him, but this particular day his associate was on duty. The way the vet described it, the cons of directly gassing down are stress before he goes under--she said its like putting them in a gas chamber--they know something is happening to them and they panic--she said they may also have a harder time regulating the initial anesthesia or something like that. I have some feelers out for another vet reference--I don't mind a drive or expense as long as I have a healthy pup!

Kerry

 

[Boxer*Mom]

Some dogs and or cats are sensative to telazol, acepromazine, or even dormitor. Find out what it is your dog has a reaction to and request that specific medication not be used.

 

[Kmh1]

Hi Everybody

I just wanted to give an update ( I hate reading a thread where you constantly wonder what happend!) Anyway, I contacted Zippy's breeder and he gave me a referral to his vet. Friday I drove 3 1/2 hours each way and had Zippy neutered at the breeder's vet. He pulled through just fine and they were the most pleasant, helpful, easy to deal with vets I've ever encountered. She explained that he would still get rimadyl anti inflammatory/ pain medicine before and after the surgery and that even being gassed down directly, he would be out in seconds, so any stress would be minimal.
So thats the update---I just hope he doesn't nedd anethesia for anything else for awhile! Any advice for a tactful way to deal with this when he goes back to my usual vet for a vaccination next week?

Kerry