Tried as a adult?

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Personaly I think the "men" respinsible need to be tried as adults. One was 16, and Im sorry, you D@mn well know better at that age. Hell even 14. The origion posters of the pics and videos whould also be charged with Child Pronography if they were involved in the act. That just my opnion though. They need to be made a example of.

Pics of girl, 16, gang raped in B.C. posted to Facebook: RCMP - thestar.com

CTV British Columbia - Second arrest made in alleged Pitt Meadows gang rape - CTV News

Police discuss danger of date-rape drugs in wake of assault of B.C. teen - The Globe and Mail
 

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tried and if convicted hung.
i would vote for a candidate that makes rape a capital offense.
 

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Why don't we just do away with the juvinile system altogether? Wouldn't that be easier than judging which kid did something so repulisve as to be tried as an adult? :rolleyes:
 

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I think the Young Offenders act should only be in place for stupid little things kids do from Peer pressure etc (Mine was stealing a CD on a dare by a "cool" kid at 13.... I would hate for that to reflect on me, or any other dumb kid forever....

Rape, Murder etc..... Not a doubt in my mind... They should be tried as Adults 99% of the time...
 

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I think the Young Offenders act should only be in place for stupid little things kids do from Peer pressure etc (Mine was stealing a CD on a dare by a "cool" kid at 13.... I would hate for that to reflect on me, or any other dumb kid forever....

Rape, Murder etc..... Not a doubt in my mind... They should be tried as Adults 99% of the time...
Agree with you there Laura.
 

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I don't believe that....a child's brain is not as developed as an adult...can they know better? Absolutely, but do they have the ability to comprehend information and consequences and act in the same way an adult does? Not usually.

I think until 17 or 18, no one should be tried as an adult.
 

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I don't believe that....a child's brain is not as developed as an adult...can they know better? Absolutely, but do they have the ability to comprehend information and consequences and act in the same way an adult does? Not usually.

I think until 17 or 18, no one should be tried as an adult.
:yikes:

They drugged a girl, gang raped her, and posted pictures of it on the internet. If they didn't know that was wrong then they need to be in a mental institution. I knew better than to do crap like that when I was 10!
 

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I would say there are exceptions.... Kill an abuser etc..

But if you are 16, you know better... Rape or Murder.. You better be prepared to do the time...

There are cases where age may play a part in controlling an impulse... And those cases should be revIewed and acted on accordingly, but we had a case a few years ago where a young man planned a Murder, and carried it out... He was tried and convicted as an Adult, and IMO justly so...
 

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Being in a mental institution is one thing...being tried as an adult is another. IMO, they aren't adults, they shouldn't be tried as adults. Lots and lots of kids make stupid decisions, plenty of those kid's decisions are harmful to others, the severity of the crime they committed doesn't make them any more adult than other kids committing less severe crimes.

And knowing something is wrong and being able to comprehend that information and act on it in the way an adult can are two different things. A 10 year old knows lying is wrong, but do they lie with the same psychology as an adult does?

I hope the kids who committed the crime get some serious, serious help, and are punished for their actions, but I also hope it doesn't destroy their entire lives.
 

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I must be a cruel person... Honestly, I could care less what it does to their lives.. All I can think about is what it has done to their victims life.....
 
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Being in a mental institution is one thing...being tried as an adult is another. IMO, they aren't adults, they shouldn't be tried as adults. Lots and lots of kids make stupid decisions, plenty of those kid's decisions are harmful to others, the severity of the crime they committed doesn't make them any more adult than other kids committing less severe crimes.

And knowing something is wrong and being able to comprehend that information and act on it in the way an adult can are two different things. A 10 year old knows lying is wrong, but do they lie with the same psychology as an adult does?

I hope the kids who committed the crime get some serious, serious help, and are punished for their actions, but I also hope it doesn't destroy their entire lives.
I was going to try and type something out but this was just said so perfect.

So, what she said
 

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I hope the kids who committed the crime get some serious, serious help, and are punished for their actions, but I also hope it doesn't destroy their entire lives.
So what about the life THEY destroyed??

A 16 year old is mentaly developed enough to know better than to Drug, Gang Rape, and post the video on the internet.

Thats why alot of kids now are little hellions. The "oh they are jsut kids they dont know any better attitude". You do the crime you get punished for it. End of story.
 

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So what about the life THEY destroyed??

A 16 year old is mentaly developed enough to know better than to Drug, Gang Rape, and post the video on the internet.

Thats why alot of kids now are little hellions. The "oh they are jsut kids they dont know any better attitude". You do the crime you get punished for it. End of story.
I don't think they don't know any better. I think they need to be punished for it. I just don't think they should be punished for it in the manner that adults might. They aren't adults, they don't think like adults, they aren't as developed as adults, then why should they be tried like adults?
 

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I'm not sure about Canada but it really bugs me how inconsistent we are in the US about ages. I find it really strange that we will not let a 15 year old get a driver's license because their brain is not developed enough to understand how a car operates and the consequences of distracted driving (or so the argument goes), but it is very common place to try a 15 year old murderer as an adult because "they should know better." So a 15 year old's brain is not to be trusted to make reasonable decisions in regards to something as simple as driving, but when it comes to taking someone's life somehow their brain is all grown up and they should be treated as such? When you are 18 you are old enough to decide that you can join the military and all the heavy, life changing stuff that is involved in that decision, but God forbid you drink until you're 21.....

I feel that if they are going to put someone into the *adult* correctional system at a young age (14, 15, 16, etc), then they had better plan on keeping them their for life, because by the time that kid's 25 or so years are up and he is released into society he has spent some fairly formative years being "raised" by prison guards and fellow inmates and is likely going to have very little concept of how to actually function in normal society. Not someone I want moving in next door......
 

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A 16 year old is developed enough to think like a adult when it comes to something like this.
 

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Read anything on adolescent brain development. That would say otherwise. It just simply isn't....you can argue about whether or not they can be tried as an adult for a lot of reasons, but saying their brain is developed enough to comprehend ANYTHING in the same way an adult's does is simply not true.
 

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I was young when I started having sex, but I knew and understood the possible consequences and when I became pregnant at 16 my then boyfriend and I discussed options, and made choices.... We married when I was 17 and have raised 2 great kids.... If I was mature enough to deal with that.. I have a hard time understanding why a 16 year Rapist should be any less responsible?
 

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First of all, every kid matures different. So at 16, there is a pretty huge range of ability to comprehend and deal with things like that. Especially in boys and girls.

Being able to do something - ie, have a kid, get married, etc. and being able to do on the same level an older adult can are two different things.
 

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