Contract Speutering?

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I am trying to decide what is in Jaw's best interest, medically. The person at the website will agree, because we already had the discussion about the 30 day clause and BabyGirl and weaning, etc.

And any of you who participated in the thread at
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t94430/
should understand. Once done, it can't be undone.
 

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In general I am pro spay/neuter, but there are exceptions to every rule.

There are many good reasons for NOT spaying or neutering (or holding off on the procedure). I don't believe you can present ONE good reason for keeping Jaws intact, other than just because you want to.
 
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Well it has now been well over 30 days since that dog was adopted according to the website.
 

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I am trying to decide what is in Jaw's best interest, medically.
What are your medical reasons for not neutering? Have you discussed this with your vet? Have you researched what health issues are likely in his breed that might be affected by neutering?
 
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I would have to look at my personal notes, but I think it has not been that long. Maybe about 3 weeks.
And I scheduled the neutering at the earliest convenience of the spay/neuter clinic. My personal vet charges twice as much.


Well it has now been well over 30 days since that dog was adopted according to the website.
 

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well lets see

considering on thier petfinder site it says speutering is mandetory...
and you KNOW about it...you cant claim ignorant...(and most shelters will re-seize these animals if that condition is not met.)

what are your LEGITIMATE reasons for NOT neutering this boy?
hes already mature meaning almost all the negatives (like stunted growth) are not valid reasons...
and you say he humps and "has errections" but neutering will not help? umm while humping can be habit forming neutering and training will help decrease this behaviour if not get rid of it completly...errections...well thats normal and natural, but those will usually decrese after neutering too...

being that he is some kind of bully breed you dont want to give ANYONE around you ANY reason to think hes not a well behaved model citizen...i belive ALL dogs should be model citizens but breeds under such scrutinization...what happens if he humps the wrong dog?!
and in a breed prone to same sex agression neutered or not i wouldnt b taking any additional chances by leaving this dog intact.

thus far, beyond i have my reasons and they never made me sighn anything you havent given any one of us reason to belive that you have RESPONSIBLE legitimate reasons for not neutering this dog...
especially in a home FULL of other intact dogs and according to your siggy 17 puppies!
 
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Let me explain something here....First of all I am an RKI = reasonably knowledgeable individual. I've had speutered dogs and non-speutered dogs. There are some differences, yes. And in other ways, it doesn't affect them at all. Sure it might eliminate the same sex dog aggression, but then again, it doesn't eliminate a dog's bad mood or other reasons for being grumpy towards other dogs. It might or might not eliminate the humping behavior. It might or might not eliminate the tendency of roaming.

Neutering can lessen the chances of some kinds of disorders and cancers, and increase the chances of others.

Basically the only obvious benefit of speutering is the removal of any chance of reproduction. And some people would not consider that as a benefit. Some people prefer non-neutered animals simply because of their particular personality qualities, not because they want to breed them.

I suppose I consider it in the same category as declawing a cat. Once it's done, it can't be undone, and it lessens the animals future potential for rehoming.
That is my opinion.
Neutering might seem great at the moment, but one must always consider that circumstances can change.
 
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.....and CorgiPower...I apologize.

Sometimes it is right. I can do a better job of it by not doing it.
 

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I have to say I would not alter my dogs early. Never got my dobe altered. I get the whole its not necessary thing. As long as a person is responsible they can do what they please. I think you took the thread the wrong way.

But if that was one of my puppy fosters that went out on a contract I would be at your door right now taking it back. From a rescue point of view that dog is an accident waiting to happen until it is fixed. Goal of rescue is no more puppies. Not perfect health. Its not perfect,far from it. But if I couldn't trust you to do this I would not trust you to bring the dog back if needed or to do basic care.

Our last foster litter went out on a alter contract. They had till the pups were six months old. Apparently this is almost never done with our rescue but the pups had parvo and ad already had homes lined up. So the rescue went ahead and paid for treatment but the new adopters had to handle the altering. They all got a call and their vets got a call to check and make sure it was done.

You got a rescue. If this was going to be a problem you should have thought it through before choosing rescue or breeder.

Get your pup fixed and love it. It really should make no difference.
 

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I think it comes down to the fact that you are supposed to get him altered. You said you would, so you should.

I'm still confused... are you keeping him or fostering him until you can rehome him? If you're rehoming then he definitely needs to be neutered imo.
 

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Reading through your posts you sound very young. I am hoping you do not really have these dogs.

Is animal control in the same county as this shelter this dog supposedly came from?

They are most definitely getting a call monday. After reading through all the posts you have made,puppies everywhere,what would happen if I bred a pit and a rott? Dog to old to rehome after haivng pups,not wanting to fix rescues , its eitheir a story or a very sad situation for a lot of dogs.
 
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Reading through your posts you sound very young. I am hoping you do not really have these dogs.

Is animal control in the same county as this shelter this dog supposedly came from?

They are most definitely getting a call monday. After reading through all the posts you have made,puppies everywhere,what would happen if I bred a pit and a rott? Dog to old to rehome after haivng pups,not wanting to fix rescues , its eitheir a story or a very sad situation for a lot of dogs.
if you are serious, I think I can find the number for at least the shelter which can lead you to AC.
 

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I've got the shelter number-has some weird calling hours though. I am sure I can get the number through there anyway.

Somethings just off. Sorry if someone thinks I am being"mean" but this is just to much. The photobucket account is jsut dog after dog.

Why would ac bring someone who doesn't know about spay and neuter dogs to care for?! Yes there are good breeders who do rescue but they don't have weird beliefs about ruining dogs and making them harder to rehome by altering them;)
 
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Joce... this is the Animal Control Information

Jay County Animal Control
2209 E. 100 S
Portland, Indiana 47371
260-726-4365

The only calling info says:
"Please no phone calls between 7:00 pm and 9:00 am"
So that basically leaves all day... heck you still have time today!

I am not sure if you thought this was the shelter info or not.
 

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thus far, putting together the questions asked form other posts and general info given...these something VERY uneasy about this whole thing...

and the EXCUSE of neutering a dog restricts rehoming options is NOT a legitimate reason...

most neuter compilcations and health issues arise with EARLY neuter...
 

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I thought I would give some fess up time. I did send an email already though. It didn't mention anything about multiple dogs and litters though.
 

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How much over? So much over that the pregnant Lab wasn't really pregnant before put into her care along with the unneutered male pit bull?
I'm actually thinking it was a mistake on the website saying it was updated with the adoption info on January 4th because I believe she posted that these dogs were available after that. The petfinder page says that the dog was adopted with his pregnant girlfriend to the same owner, so I don't believe she is lying about it.
 
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