Rutland Manor

[krisykris]

Has anyone here ever purchased a labradoodle puppy from Rutland Manor? I've been researching what pup I'd like to add as the final addition to my furry family once our new house closes in January.

I was interested in a lhasa apso, but the fiancee really wants a bigger dog. Since allergies are a concern for me.. I seem to do much better w/poodle mixes. We looked into a standard poodle, but the fiancee doesn't care for them , and I've always loved the personality and look of the labradoodle.

I'd really only feel comfortable getting one from Rutland Manor in Australia because I feel strongly that the pups there get the best care and socialization. I actually want the breeders and handlers to pick out a puppy based on personality for me rather than coat color, ect.

I know a few people on the forum own labradoodles and I was just wondering if you could give me any info about these pups!

Thanks a bunch!

 

[stevinski]

i know dr2little got her pup from australia but i dno about rutland manor, is there a website?

 

[krisykris]

It's rutlandmanor.com

 

[Lizmo]

Yah Dr2little has one or two!

 

[Zoom]

There's Rutland Manor and Rubylove got hers from another Australian kennel so she could tell you a few places to look as well.

 

[krisykris]

Awesome! I can't wait to talk to them about it!

 

[krisykris]

I did some more research online and they seem pretty reputable... hmmm.....

 

[Cassiepeia]

*sigh* Rutland Manor is a puppymill. Not only do they have a huge number of breeding dogs and bitches on the premises but they also breed their bitches back to back (every single season). That means litter, after litter, after litter, after litter (multiplied by all those bitches). No reputable breeder would do that.
I say again...depsite their fancy site and intelligent wording, they are a puppymill.

Before you decide on purchasing a labradoodle consider other large breeds with more reliable coats like the Lagotto Romagnolo (which looks similar to a labradoodle, but is an old breed) http://www.lagotto.net/lagrom2.htm , Bedlington Terriers http://bedlingtonamerica.com/ , Portuguese Water Dog http://www.pwdca.org/ , spanish water dog http://www.r4us.co.uk/swd/ and the Irish Water Spaniel http://www.iwsac.org/ .

Cass.

 

[tempura tantrum]

Try and get in touch with Dr.2Little and Rubylove- I'm pretty sure they got their dogs from reputable Labradoodle breeders (and reputable breeders of these guys are TRULY difficult to find). As far as Rutland Manor, I agree with Cassiepeia- FAR too many bitches being bred back to back means that there is NO way all of those puppies are getting adequate socialization. They ARE however MASTERS at creating a sleek website. In this case, what you see really isn't what you get.

That's why so many of us here at Chaz stress the importance of being able to visit your puppy-breeder in person. Anyone can hide behind a website, and millers are getting better and better these days at being able to mimic reputable breeders. Besides, you've got to ask yourself- if YOU were a breeder, would you feel comfortable sending your own puppies to people you'd never met before? I certainly wouldn't!

It's too bad your fiance isn't so in to the idea of Lhasas- they are truly a LOT of personality, and really, not as small as you would think. They're pretty hardy dogs in all actuality. Has he met any in person? Sometimes it's just a matter of actually meeting one to allow people to get over that "small dog stigma." And I know a fabulous Lhasa breeder,

Good luck on your puppy search! And keep us all posted!

 

[MyIrishWolfie]

15,000 to 20,000 for a Labradoodle?? Are they serious??

If you want a large breed that look like a Labradoodle.. then an Irish Wolfhound would be my guess... they are large.. very large.. but extra sweet.. and they're less expensive

 

[Zoom]

Honestly, I would look into the PWD. Smaller than the Labradoodle, guaranteed coat (or at least more so than most doodles) and sweet personality. They are also a water retrieving breed like both the Lab and poodle.

it's also a lot easier to find good PWD breeders than Labradoodles. Plus cheaper.

 

[Carolyn]

I'm in Australia, and I've never heard of Rutland, but then I don't own a labradoodle either heheh..

Look all I can suggest, is that if you are both so very undecided on breeds, there are always plenty of beautiful loving dogs that need adoption, from the many shelters in our countries.

Just something else to consider

 

[RD]

15-20k?! Holy crap. I was helping a friend get her Kelpie from Australia and with shipping, it was only $5k.

I agree, Rutland Manor looks like a mill. Definitely not a place I'd buy a pup from.

 

[dr2little]

I agree, Rutland was around when I got Sophie and I ran the other direction. Unfortunately, my breeder has now had both her dogs (the only dogs that she bred) altered and is no longer breeding. I'll put an email into her to see what she thinks of other breeders there.

The reason that I went with her is that she only had the mom and dad who were from more consistent lineage, bred very infrequently, and donated most of her pups for therapy.

Contrary to popular belief on here, her coats were very consistent as well. Sophie is very typical of her pups, she's very tall (85 lbs.), doesn't shed a hair and is extremely calm. Her breeder offered me another pup at no charge but we weren't able to take one at that time....it was Sheba's last litter.

 

[krisykris]

Thanks for the info. I saw a special on tv about Rutland and I saw that they had a lot of dogs, but their facilities looked so clean and the dogs seemed so well taken care of that I just wasn't sure how bad it was.

We are also looking into the PWD, but my fiancee still really likes the look of the labradoodle. He's read a lot saying that lhasa's are highly possessive, hard to train, ect... so I think that's why he's kind of veto'd that breed.

I think the dogs that are 15,000 are breeding dogs...

 

[Fran27]

IMO, both Rutland Manor and Tegan Park are puppy mills. Yes, they might be working on a standard, but with all the litters they have it just seems to be like a huge business operation. Beautiful dogs though.

 

[chinchow]

There's tons of Labradoodles in rescue these days too.

 

[dr2little]

There's tons of Labradoodles in rescue these days too.

Good Point chinchow...here's a link!

http://www.poomixrescue.com/dog_types.html

 

[krisykris]

I'm really looking for the australian labradoodle though.. I haven't come across too many rescues..

 

[chinchow]

Good Point chinchow...here's a link!

http://www.poomixrescue.com/dog_types.html

That list never ends!