Owner attacked by her pit bull on 9/30/05 (with photos)

[rottiegirl]

my dogsloveme, you posted a very good article! It is definately the owners fault and the irresponsible breeders fault. Roxyboxer, the are posts about attacks from other breeds, yet you seem to just hate posts about pit attacks. I posted it to show the pictures, if it was caused by a different breed I would still have posted it. You got me wrong, because I do not think that pits are just bad dogs. it has to do with the owners and breeders.

 

[RoxyBoxer]

Yes you are right I do hate posts on dog attacks. There are dogs attacks like there are new viruses every day and there are bear attack and lions loose in the zoo...but people do not need another source of fear to add to there lives. Dogs sense fear. Fear makes them nervous. Ive seen dogs growl at people for no reason except they were afraid.

 

[juliefurry]

Personally, I feel this has proved nothing and should be ended .

Thank you, please do.

 

[rottiegirl]

roxyboxer, please dont spoil this thread with name calling! A reputible news source is one who does not exagerate the truth or down right lie (there are other factors too). I beleive that msn.com is pretty reputible, am I wrong?

 

[oriondw]

I attest to dogs not liking people who are afraid of them.


My guy doesnt like people who are afraid of him.

 

[rottiegirl]

Roxyboxer, if you do not like posts about attacks, then why did you view it? All I was trying to do is post some pictures if some one was interested in taking a look. No harm done. I did not mean to put pit bulls in a bad possition, it was all about the pics.

 

[Saje]

not you Saje btw

I know.

I am curious about these things because it wasn't anything I really thought about before I started to study journalism. And then I was like "oh! I should be asking these questions!!!" lol

So, what I look for in a good news source is:

1. who owns the source? That invariably slants them one way or another. It doesn't necessarily make them bad but it is something to get in mind. That's why I have a few sources from independent media. There are only two major news chains in Canada which... well it affects a lot of things.

2. In each story I make sure that both sides are represented and that the journalist tries to keep his/her 'voice' out of the story as much as possible. If they can't do that I question things immediately.

3. Also, I question the sources that the writer went to. If the sources are obviously slanted one way or another that tells you that the writer had a purpose (or was being lazy).

I asked my gramma who "they" was. She kept telling me about a report on the news. And she kept saying 'they said..." and I asked her who they was. She said "you know. whoever..." which is my point. How many people actually pay attention to the sources.

 

[champagne]

rottiegirl,

I have read alot of your posts in the different sections of this forum. They always do get everyone stating their opinons. So heres mine....

I first read all the posts on here before I made the decision to NOT view the link. The thing is WHY do you post such a horrible thing that happened to someone by their dog. Its one thing to show the article but another to want people to see what a dog did to their owner. And a pitbull at that. You seem to only want to educate people on what pits have done and/or could do in a bad way. Im sure you can come up with some graphic pics of the damage other dog breeds have done. You must spend an awful lot of time researching the pit....yes??? There are alot of young kids an here and most would look at the graphics just out of curiousity(sp?). You know how kids are.

I currently own a pitbull (not my first) and when I try to educate the people around me about the breed not only do I tell them the history of the dog but I also let them know just what loving and loyal animals they are. Of course they are not a dog for everyone and ALL and I mean ALL dogs should have some sort of obedience training ALONG with their owners as an untrained dog is usually with an untrained owner.

Trained dogs are much better behaved and know that their owners are the ones that say whats wrong and whats right, Whats accepted and whats not. We have NEVER hit our dog. He is now in advance obedience class and doing really well. Everyone has an attitude with us and the dog because he is a pit. Then after knowing us and him they no longer have that attitude.

EDUCATE EDUCATE and EDUCATE thats whats needed for pet ownership of ALL breeds thats why forums like this are really GOOD.

I just wish you would lay off the pits. Post some positive things about the breed. I agree that there are a lot of pits being breed without regards to temperment or genetics but please.. there are also ignorant people owning these dogs and to make the breed better would be to educate people so they have a better pet. Thats what I would like to see you do since you are able to gather alot of info on the breed.

sorry just had to rant as I get sick and tired of people always blaming the breed and not the deed, owners, breeders etc.

 

[rottiegirl]

champagne, I completely respect your opinion. I was not intentionally looking for pictures of a pit bull attack, I was looking for something else when I ran into it. I decided to post it so people could look at the pictures if they wanted to. If it was an attack from a rottie and any other breed I would have posted it too. I did not post it just because it involved a pit, it just happened to. With my post I mentioned that there is more info as to why pits are overstated reguarding attacks. I have also stated that it is the owners and breeders fault and not the pits. Pit bulls can be wonderfull dogs and most of them are. I agree with you that people need to be educated about the breed, after all, it is the pit who is the victim here (so is the person who got attacked).

 

[rottiegirl]

another thing, I didnt necessarily "want" people to view the pictures, I just made it available if they did.

 

[chloesowner]

pit bulls can get very agressive that is bad because you dont know what their gonna do

 

[bubbatd]

Julie... it's not my forum. I just saw this post going no where ...I'm bowing out and letting them decide what the issue is... pictures/ dogs /training/ breeding/ etc. I really don't know what the point is. Rottie wanted us to see graphic pictures.. fine if that's her thing. I'm not faulting anyone or any breed. I just don't see an educated debate here.

 

[rottiegirl]

Once again.... I did NOT necessarily "want" people to look at the pictures, all I did is make it available if you wanted to. I do not appreciate it when people make assumptions.

 

[Julie]

Julie... it's not my forum. I just saw this post going no where ...I'm bowing out and letting them decide what the issue is... pictures/ dogs /training/ breeding/ etc. I really don't know what the point is. Rottie wanted us to see graphic pictures.. fine if that's her thing. I'm not faulting anyone or any breed. I just don't see an educated debate here.

I would guess you are talking to juliefurry right? Not me Julie...

The only educated debate I see here is about news articles. And what not to believe.

Julie.

 

[bubbatd]

Yes... Juliefurry... sorry girl !!! Keep debating !!

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Did you find that on orgish too? or the Like?

Listen, I am just not one to believe garbage. So I will respectfully agree to disagree on this one.

I hope everyone understands.

Thanks,
Julie.

Julie, are you asking about the articles that I posted. I found them doing a google they were actually article written in a San Fran paper and the Santa Cruz paper. I was trying to show both sides with both articles. One article talks about some attacks made by pit bulls but also talks about a dogs tendancy towards certain movements, items fear etc and the other was on a positive upbeat by a pit owner. I didnt mean to offend you just thought I would add both sides of the coin so to speak

 

[Saje]

I think she was talking to Rottie girl

 

[Ash47]

I have to put my input. Why on earth would ANYONE want to view a disgusting, sad, mangled picture like that???! Makes no sense. What if you found a picture of a Chihuahua, Husky, Rat Terrier, or Lab attack? Would you post it?? For some reason, I think the answer is no. Those dogs attacking someone aren't all the rage right now. IF that woman was attacked by her dog (which probably wasn't a Pit), that is some pretty serious damage done. Don't give me the argument that they have locking jaws. My best friend has a 10wk. old Pit pup and he is in the biting/chewing stage. I have absolutely no problem pulling his mouth off my hand.
That was a totally gruesome and unneeded picture that did no good on this DOGLOVING forum. The more appropriate way, or the only appropriate way, to have approached this thread would have been to announce that you had a very graphic "supposed dog attack" pic and if anyone wanted to view it, they could PM you. There are 11 and 12 year olds on this site.
You say that children have access to these sick sites when their parents aren't around, so what's the problem? The problem is that my little sister who is 10 years old, plays on the computer. She has run into some nasty things, pop ups. Just because other people post horrid things, makes it ok for you to do it? You want to contribute to the problem? My little sister browses around on here just to look at dogs and stuff. Now, I can't even feel safe with her doing that.
You already know my opinion on Pits, so I am not even going to echo myself once again.

 

[Zoom]

Once again.... I did NOT necessarily "want" people to look at the pictures, all I did is make it available if you wanted to. I do not appreciate it when people make assumptions.

That's like leaving a secret diary lying unlocked in plain sight and then getting p*ssed off when someone reads it. "It's not that I wanted them to read it, it was just there!" You know full well people click on posted links, because for the most part they have some useful and pertinant information. This was not one of those links. This was shock value posted with porn links on a minor-heavy board. That's just plain irresponsible. Also, you can't say you found the link on msn.com when it's quite obvious the hosting site is ogrish.com.

And I'll re-ask Saje's question: What makes a reputable news source for you? And speaking of bias, this makes thread number four or five about "Bad Pit Bulls!!" Intentional or not, I have yet to see anything negative posted about any other breed from you.

Boxermom, 10 bucks says she has you on ignore because you ask the hard questions.

 

[Saje]

Did you see the link earlier Pro? Cuz it's been deleted now.