Omg Guess What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[poeluvr]

im not trying to do a downer at all, but was there any pitbull pups at the shelter. i just have to ask bcuz at mine there is 3, and i just cant halp thinking if u checked out the shelter for pitties.
i kno it is too late now, i am just asking cuz i wannt to hear u say u did(cuz im sure u did?), so this wont be on my mind forever.
he is sooooo adorable..lucky to have ya

 

[poeluvr]

I don't see any mention of a vet visit or vaccinations. I am sure the puppy producer didn't give him any. And God alone knows if his mother ever had any shots, or when she had them.

Were the parents tested for hips and cardio? I have a suspicion NOT.

No reputable breeder will let a puppy go before it is at least 10 weeks of age. But then again, few reputable breeders will advertise in the newspaper-----although I must admit I did place an ad or two over the years. I used the opportunity to educate those who answered the ads, and since I had a rare breed, most who called had had a Manchester at one time in their lives. A couple of those folks had to wait a year or more for me to have a litter though.

I hope this puppy will be a happy experience. I note the mention of crates, which is good. A crate trained puppy tends to live a longer happier life than those which are not crated.

I wish you luck......you will most definitely need it! And at least you can get the help you need from these forums!

well manchester this is from a pet person, you tell azcowgirl, she didnt most likely get a good puppy if it was from an add, but you just said you had put dogs in adds before, but while you did, and sold the pups to them, these were the people who you told shouldn't answer adds. yeah right, u diddnt want to educate them u wanted to sell the dogs, and this like bigdog is coming from a pet owner...lol

 

[bubbatd]

Manchester, I never placed an ad in 40 yrs. I was over sold with most of my litters. The only one I wasn't was a litter of 12 pups, yet they were all gone by my recommended 8th week to good families.

 

[showpug]

nobody mentioned men in black...men in black WAS a pug, as good as it gets was a brussels griffon. not trying to step on any toes, but its true.

If you read my post you will see that I indeed did mention the movie "Men In Black" ooops, I meant to say that in the movie "As Good As it Gets was a brussles and "Men in Black was a pug"!!

As far as the people saying that they feel sorry for pugs. Yes, that is warranted for some pugs, but pugs that are bred correctly don't breathe that way. In fact, it's rare that I ever catch my female pug panting. The majority of the population keeps their pugs way too fat! That is the biggest problem with their breathing....oh, and being poorly bred by breeders that don't pay attention to their nostrils or palate (minor detail )

 

[Zoom]

azcowgirl: Congradulations on your new puppy! Keep it hale and whole and many happy years to you both. What are you doing to do with your dogs when you go to college, just out of spur-of-the-moment curiosity?

Showpug, I think I would like to see one of your pugs, because the breathing and bug-eyes (that probably comes from weight problems?) are the two mains reasons why I can't stand this breed in general. But I'm willing to be proven wrong!

 

[showpug]

azcowgirl: Congradulations on your new puppy! Keep it hale and whole and many happy years to you both. What are you doing to do with your dogs when you go to college, just out of spur-of-the-moment curiosity?

Showpug, I think I would like to see one of your pugs, because the breathing and bug-eyes (that probably comes from weight problems?) are the two mains reasons why I can't stand this breed in general. But I'm willing to be proven wrong!

Wow, low blow! I don't need to prove my breed to anyone and I am sure not going to post multiple pictures of my dogs so people can pick them apart...these are my babies and when you go there, it becomes way too personal. I find it quite cruel to tell someone who loves a certain breed that you can't stand that type of dog. I would never say that to anyone here...oh, maybe that is because I can find something to appreciate in ALL breeds even if I don't care to own one.

 

[Zoom]

No no no! I meant that in a nice way, I really did! I wasn't asking to pick apart your babies from pictures, what I meant was I'd like to meet your pugs in person so I can see what a 'real' pug is supposed to look and act like. Most-to-all the pugs that I come in contact with are over-fed, under-bred and under-trained. It sounds like you take great care in both breeding and training.

I try to like all dogs/breeds, but when a good specimen of the breed is a rare occurance, it's a little hard. I never thought I would like to own a Basset, because I had never run across an accurate representation of the breed. Now I work with a couple that has a wonderful Basset and Xander has started to quickly change my mind.

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Wow he is georgous congrats

 

[poeluvr]

well zoom, all pugs are pretty bug eyed thats what makes them cute, so seeing showpugs pugs , wont help u like them in that area i guess(but i love them for their eyes..aawww.so cute!)
besides zoom cant you see showpugs dogs enough in his sig?

 

[showpug]

No no no! I meant that in a nice way, I really did! I wasn't asking to pick apart your babies from pictures, what I meant was I'd like to meet your pugs in person so I can see what a 'real' pug is supposed to look and act like. Most-to-all the pugs that I come in contact with are over-fed, under-bred and under-trained. It sounds like you take great care in both breeding and training.

I try to like all dogs/breeds, but when a good specimen of the breed is a rare occurance, it's a little hard.

Okay, sorry...sometimes I get a little too eager to defend my babies. I will post more pictures of them. You are 100% correct about the majority of pugs being over-fe, under-bred and under-trained!!! And no, bug eyes don't come from weight problems, they come from poor breeding and they are actually called "wall eyes" not bug eyes LOL!! The breathing can be a sign of an overweight pug and usually is....how many really overweight people do you see that don't breathe heavily when trying to do everyday activities? I don't mean that as a put down, just a comparison. When things are too fat, it's hard to breathe. Anyway, I will try to post some pics later.

 

[showpug]

well zoom, all pugs are pretty bug eyed thats what makes them cute, so seeing showpugs pugs , wont help u like them in that area i guess(but i love them for their eyes..aawww.so cute!)
besides zoom cant you see showpugs dogs enough in his sig?

Lea...you are sweet, thank you. By the way...I am a she, not a he!!! LOL!!

 

[poeluvr]

rrrr...i also called love4pits a he today...i had to guess i forgot..now it is in my memory though!

 

[poeluvr]

showpug come chat me dakota and saje are, i wanna talk to u!

 

[Zoom]

well zoom, all pugs are pretty bug eyed thats what makes them cute, so seeing showpugs pugs , wont help u like them in that area i guess(but i love them for their eyes..aawww.so cute!)
besides zoom cant you see showpugs dogs enough in his sig?

I can see them fine, but seeing is not the same as meeting. I can look at a million pictures of a breed and still not know that much about it. And Showpug's pugs are less wall-eyed than most I've met. Again, I'm basing my opinion on the dogs that I've actually physically interacted with. A friend of mine has a pug, and it would probably make Showpug have a coronary. It's fat, spoiled, wheezes non-stop and really only has enough training so that it doesn't pull on the leash.

 

[poeluvr]

hmmm...well dont u think u guys live far away from eachother. to meet them personally..betcha do?

 

[Zoom]

I know she lives too far away from me to just hop on over and meet her litters. And also, neither of us know each other AT ALL, which would make it really odd if I just showed up.

 

[showpug]

I can see them fine, but seeing is not the same as meeting. I can look at a million pictures of a breed and still not know that much about it. And Showpug's pugs are less wall-eyed than most I've met. Again, I'm basing my opinion on the dogs that I've actually physically interacted with. A friend of mine has a pug, and it would probably make Showpug have a coronary. It's fat, spoiled, wheezes non-stop and really only has enough training so that it doesn't pull on the leash.

LOL!! about your friends pug and yes, we do live too far apart. I am in Oregon and I see that you reside in Kansas. I must clarify that I do not breed pugs at this point, I just show them with the intention to some day know enough to breed a good quality litter...that is, if I get up enough guts to go through with it!!! I do however spend a lot of time with my close friend and mentor who is a breeder so I have learned a lot and met a lot of pug litters and see the results of some good and bad breedings. Someday when I have more than proven myself in the ring and my dogs pass endless health screens, then I will breed my first litter

 

[poeluvr]

well i think showpug, you would be doing the breed harm if you didnt breed some yourself, you seem very qualified.
me and my mom have talked about getting a pug, in about 2 years. if you dont mind me asking, how much was ur baby around, or how much do you think i can get a very good one for?

 

[showpug]

well i think showpug, you would be doing the breed harm if you didnt breed some yourself, you seem very qualified.
me and my mom have talked about getting a pug, in about 2 years. if you dont mind me asking, how much was ur baby around, or how much do you think i can get a very good one for?

Show pugs range anywhere from $1500 to $3000 and pets are usually around $800 to $1200. You can find pugs for much cheaper, but you usually get what you pay for. Please do remember that price is not the main indicator of quality though.

 

[poeluvr]

yes i know, but it helps, beleive me if im paying 1200 for my next dog, the breeder will be checked out thorougly, and they will have to do some convincing....lol