Well , right now 2 families here in Indy are giving praise . One is a police officer's family . He was shot in the head and should be dead . They asked for prayers and today he opened his eyes. The other was a drive by shooting . A bullet entered the back door and went through a bible and watermelon before entering a child ....she will live .
Just curious, how many of you believe in a higher power?
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And why I'll never have it. I base my life off being able to prove what I'm doing is correct, how could I possibly be able to justify living my life as some old dusty book wants me to?
It was a great tool for controlling the masses and getting them to live longer if they followed its laws (And no one can tell me that having people not eat from pigs back in the old days wasn't purely a health issue).
It was a great tool for controlling the masses and getting them to live longer if they followed its laws (And no one can tell me that having people not eat from pigs back in the old days wasn't purely a health issue).
Not trying to prove people with faith wrong. Just offering other scenarios and presenting reasons behind the things ya'll claim.
Claim that the bible is infallible and science hasn't yet proven it wrong. Well, there's a reason for that. It can't. The evidence never existed or (in cases where it contains a grain of truth) is long gone.
How am I nit picking? I brought up a scenario based on a statement made. That's not nit picking. That's questioning and looking for a reason.
He'd pretty much have to come down to earth himself and go 'dude, I'm God', at which point he turns me into a shrubbery.
Edit2: Actually, two shrubberies so I could have a two layered effect.
Edit: Oh and talk through me while I'm on fire. That would pretty much convince me.
Claim that the bible is infallible and science hasn't yet proven it wrong. Well, there's a reason for that. It can't. The evidence never existed or (in cases where it contains a grain of truth) is long gone.
How am I nit picking? I brought up a scenario based on a statement made. That's not nit picking. That's questioning and looking for a reason.
He'd pretty much have to come down to earth himself and go 'dude, I'm God', at which point he turns me into a shrubbery.
Edit2: Actually, two shrubberies so I could have a two layered effect.
Edit: Oh and talk through me while I'm on fire. That would pretty much convince me.
Ahhhhh... Youth.
A very wise man once said to me, when I was young. "Get out and live it up now, while you still know everything."
Your statement about control tells me that you really have no idea what you are talking about. It tells me you believe what you are 'told' by modern society. Never in my life have I ever been more FREE.
I am no fool. I've been there and done that, got the T-Shirt and stuff. You know what it has taught me? I don't know SQUAT. Neither do you. You think you do and this is not uncommon for a intelligent young man.
NEVER say never my friend. Also, never forget that wisdom and knowledge are VASTLY different things.
EDIT: Tell me how you can "prove" you are correct in your choice for a wife someday? How can you 'prove' you will make the correct choices when raisng your children, someday?
You are going to have a dissapointing life if you only abide by things you can 'prove'. I wish you the best of luck.
OK, i'll bite.
Currently, I am a Network Systems Engineer. But I hate it. In my heart, I am a soldier. But, I know that time has past me. I now CRAVE, with every fiber of my soul to be a lowly farmer. To work with the land and MAKE something, rather than fix things. We are pretty sure we can make it happen too, in the not to distant future.
My time in the Army allowed me to see the world. I've been to the Horn of Africa and many parts of Europe, courtsey of the Army. I've been to Japan, Brazil and Mexico, courtesy of one of my IT jobs.
I've seen a LOT of things, many of them I wish I had not. My life experience made me who I am.
Why do you ask?
Currently, I am a Network Systems Engineer. But I hate it. In my heart, I am a soldier. But, I know that time has past me. I now CRAVE, with every fiber of my soul to be a lowly farmer. To work with the land and MAKE something, rather than fix things. We are pretty sure we can make it happen too, in the not to distant future.
My time in the Army allowed me to see the world. I've been to the Horn of Africa and many parts of Europe, courtsey of the Army. I've been to Japan, Brazil and Mexico, courtesy of one of my IT jobs.
I've seen a LOT of things, many of them I wish I had not. My life experience made me who I am.
Why do you ask?
If you stop dreaming, you stop living.
I promise you I am going to bawl like a baby once we get there.
I really cannot put it into words how much my soul just YEARNS to do it. God has put all the pieces in my way. A GOOD friend who is a farmer, but yearns for a BIG farm out west. A solid investment account that will allow a lot of the necessary money... The WILL to do it. All we need now is to find the right place and to get a little extra money together....
I can definitely see where farming would give you a sense of accomplishment Puck
I really cannot put it into words how much my soul just YEARNS to do it. God has put all the pieces in my way. A GOOD friend who is a farmer, but yearns for a BIG farm out west. A solid investment account that will allow a lot of the necessary money... The WILL to do it. All we need now is to find the right place and to get a little extra money together....
You can't, as you may not be correct for one another.
That may go against every romantic notion in the history of man, but there is no way to 'know'. You just have to go with who you're most compatible with (or in some cases, not compatible with but still get along with. Can learn a lot from someone who's got different ideas of fun and adventure than you).
And yes I know that I'll be told 'we KNOW we're right for each other' but do you? Something may change later. You don't know that it won't. Just gotta pick the best one and work things out as you go.
And the only way to prove the latter is to see what they become as an adult. Even then it could be a front they put up. Again, you can't know. At least not until they're able to deduce neuron flows and what they mean (mind reading, essentially). And I kind of hope that day doesn't come. The government would have a field day...
That may go against every romantic notion in the history of man, but there is no way to 'know'. You just have to go with who you're most compatible with (or in some cases, not compatible with but still get along with. Can learn a lot from someone who's got different ideas of fun and adventure than you).
And yes I know that I'll be told 'we KNOW we're right for each other' but do you? Something may change later. You don't know that it won't. Just gotta pick the best one and work things out as you go.
And the only way to prove the latter is to see what they become as an adult. Even then it could be a front they put up. Again, you can't know. At least not until they're able to deduce neuron flows and what they mean (mind reading, essentially). And I kind of hope that day doesn't come. The government would have a field day...
? No hard feelings.
I'm on call right now for work. There's not a whole lot I can do other than post stuff waiting for them to call me in for whatever animal has managed to hurt itself.
Well faith in choosing the right woman and faith in a god aren't quite the same thing. Unless you put faith in your god that you chose the right woman (or man, as I guess would be the case for you).
But yes, as far as the word goes, you would have to put a bit of faith in trusting you picked the right one to spend the rest of your life with. But faith != religion.
I'm on call right now for work. There's not a whole lot I can do other than post stuff waiting for them to call me in for whatever animal has managed to hurt itself.
Well faith in choosing the right woman and faith in a god aren't quite the same thing. Unless you put faith in your god that you chose the right woman (or man, as I guess would be the case for you).
But yes, as far as the word goes, you would have to put a bit of faith in trusting you picked the right one to spend the rest of your life with. But faith != religion.
Well that is true but I was more leaning towards what you said in your last sentence. More that one of the arguments has been that science can PROVE things and Faith cannot prove anything so it's illogical to believe in something that there is absolutely no proof of. Well there is no proof that you have chosen the right woman but you still believe in the relationship even though other's may find your relationship illogical.
I guess my point is about faith (not just faith in God but just faith). Faith... you just feel it deep down inside of you that you will spend the rest of your life with your wife (or with God). Faith doesn't equal religion. I have faith in my marriage... that we will spend our entire lives together.... I have a similar faith in God that I will spend my life walking with him. I can't see him persay... but I can't see the future with my husband either. I just have faith.
Sometimes... ya just gotta have faith... in something.
I hope that makes sense lol I am watching a show and responding at the same time haha
True, but you can still do something that's illogical even though you recognize that it's so. That's just going against your sense.
And some day it may not even be a case of going against logic. Our understanding of the brain is very fledgling right now, but down the road you may just get hooked up to a machine and they essentially go "this is who you're compatible with, pick one".
Takes the thrill out of the hunt but I wouldn't doubt for an instant that it'd be possible to do.
Until then, we're stuck with having faith in our choice. Illogical as it may be. Thing is, it's not entirely illogical because no one picks a person off the street and goes "I'm marrying you". Primarily because it kinda requires consent but let's say that both parties consent to that. Very few would do that and expect it to work out. You're still basing your decision on past interactions, experiences, and knowledge of that person.
So it's not an entirely illogical process. You have to have faith in your relationship but it's faith grounded in fact.