Has anyone heard of TEKS KENNELS in Cloverdale, IN?

[annettebenak]

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From what we all understand, she does not even have a license. And she calls her kennel a "rescue center" & all her money goes into rescuing dogs. YEAH RIGHT. Booooooo!! She may rescue some, but then they die of Parvo when she gets them. I have tried to contact the BBB a few different times & have never been able to get through. I will try again, THANKS for reminding me.

Also, if by chance she decides to clean out her kennel & try to get rid of the Parvo, what all does she need to do to accomplish that? Is it possible since so many animals have died there?? The disease must be all over that place.

Annette & Jette (I just love saying that)

 

[otch1]

It will be difficult to "clean up" her place, recirculating Parvo because of improper quarantine areas and disinfecting practices. Go on line and look up info on Parvo so you have a better idea of how serious it is. Would like to hear if you have any success with BBB. Even if she's calling herself a rescue, she is selling dogs and paying herself first, with a recorded income with the IRS. She has to have a business license and tax i.d. number for that. If this is a rescue, she may also have filed for non-profit status instead (501-3C??)Look these things up on line and see if there are any infractions, something you can report that would be of interest to the BBB or county. It's a start. Goodnight Annette and Jette! (I agree, great name)

 

[Anne]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for the information. I do not understand all the "ins and outs" on kennels. So, if I understand you correctly, she can have 50 puppies under 6 months of age and not need a license? What if she owns just a few adult dogs and all these puppies? How can she be licensed AND have insurance? I'll bet she has neither! Is there any way we can find out?

I am one of the customers that did get a puppy. Mine just happens to have a heart murmur that Tammy REFUSES to admit. She mislead me on his health, date of birth and she sold him to Annette (just 3 days after I got him)! I believe my puppy never had ANY medical treatment either (including shots and the exam). To date, she refuses to give me or my vet her vet's name and phone number to contact to get further information on my puppy's health! That's because he never saw one!! Anyhow, I intend to not let this go.

Any insightful help you or others can give, would be so greatly appreciated!!!!
:hail:

Annette... hope you've filed a complaint against her with the Better Business Bureau. Enough complaints made, her insurance company will reconsider renewing policy. No insurance, no renewal of license. No license, out of business. Wrether she's a hobby breeder or commercially licensed, she needs a license to own 10 adult dogs or more. (Anything under 6 months does not count in license application.) And is is not legal to operate a "for profit" breeding business or kennel without liability insurance. It will be easier to have these things trip her up than the mishandling of the dogs, or improper care. Hope that helps a little.

 

[otch1]

Please give me more detailed info about her business and your transaction with her, and if she's truly doing a disservice to the public, and the dogs in her care, I'd love to help. If you're comfortable giving me her full name, address, formal name of business, I'll try to send you in the right direction as far as who to contact goes. Please send this info via private email.

 

[otch1]

I decided to go thru posts in this thread, as far back as 2005!!! All of the info you need is here, Annette and Anne. I have a suspicion about another name she's going under and 2 other kennels involved in order for her to continue to do business, in light of pending law suit. Will get back with any info I find.

 

[annettebenak]

Otch

Did you make it through all the posts yet??? Quite interesting, huh???? What do you make of it all??? Interesting group of people we are dealing with at Kritter Heaven, don't ya think?? :yikes: I bet your glad you didn't pay to get a puppy from there!!!

 

[otch1]

I did read the posts! I've dealt with this on a larger scale. Findings, after I did some checking for a client who'd lost a puppy (heart failure), then received a replacement pup and it had pneumonia and giarrdia. Both from a California pet store. Found complaints w/BBB against petstore. Tracked breeder to Ava Missouri. Found she'd been licensed 10yrs before as a kennel, went to court for animal cruelty charges. Opened again, under another kennel name, 4 yrs later taken to court by state for similar charges. Got a brokers license w/ USDA instead, to continue doing business. She also changed the spelling of her name when doing this. She then opened 2 internet sites selling puppies out of other kennels as a broker in Missouri and is doing business with the Hunte Corporation, the largest shipping/distributing corp. for pups in the states. She's now believed to be selling approx. 275 puppies per year. I found this after several days research and "connecting the dots". Look up The Puppy Patch,www.pup4u.com, (?) Cedercrest kennel, cedarcrest kennel, now compare all of the email addresses. Now look up Marilyn Sheperd. look familiar? As for your "breeder"... did some checking and a Tammy that's selling puppies on an internet service. How close is close is Shelbyville from where you bought your pup? I'm connecting the dots again. Ha! Have a nice evening1

 

[otch1]

I was getting sleepy on that last post, meant to say... how close is Shelbyville to your breeders kennel? What have others gotten in response from Better Business bureau, to the complaints they've filed on her?

 

[purple sue]

Hi all, I havent been around much as I have been busy training Yogi, one does forget how much work they are!! As for the BBB or anyone else for that matter you get nothing. As far as I am concerned there is nothing out there that truely helps in any of this. It seems no one can go in and do anything . I dont understand what most of these things are out there for. The BBB can not help close them down, The Attorney General can not go in and close them down as can no one that we filed complaints with. I have learned it is very easy to get away with this and not be in trouble. They can always be one step ahead with new names. I look at all the time it took me to get them kicked off of web sites only to go back and find them there again under slightly new names, you dont even have to change it alot. I guess this just is not high enough priority. I have learned alot thru this whole thing. You here so much about puppy mills but every one closes their eyes to it because it is not important enough, and that is close in words to what the prosecuters office told me. They wont even let you file a complaint. Well as you can see dont get me started on this as I could write a whole chapter on it.

 

[Anne]

Distance

Shelbyville, Indiana is about 68 miles from their kennel. I don't know what all the BBB has done in regards to the complaints they have received, but I do know it is hard to get them shut down. She changes her name and she keeps changing their business names and websites. At this time I think we need a miracle for them to be shut down! Thank you for your interest in this serious and important matter. Maybe someone can think of something or someway to help, that we have not yet. Any help any one can give us at this time, would be greatly appreciated!! :hail:

I was getting sleepy on that last post, meant to say... how close is Shelbyville to your breeders kennel? What have others gotten in response from Better Business bureau, to the complaints they've filed on her?

 

[otch1]

I am confused at this point. Get me up to speed? This "breeder" named Tammy Gilchrist has an internet site she is still selling puppies from. Several of you have purchased a puppy from her within the past 12 weeks. One of you describes her property, knows where she lives. There was a class action suit against her with a pending judgement of approx. $65,000.00. There are multiple charges against her, one being she is operating without a license!! I have checked and she is still operating without a license!! The Indiana Better Business Bureau has red flagged her since 2005. Why is her location not being reported to the attorney general, Steve Carter before she files bankruptcy and police chief C.Hallam before she moves? I believe I've also found a puppyfind.com ad for her as well. It is in print she is selling not rescueing dogs!! So, why are they not going in and shutting her down for lack of licensing? The irony of this is she was mocking everyone at one point by adopting the name Tammy Workman.. Tammy Workman is the Program Technician for the USDA in CO. I am missing something here at this point. Somebody fill me in?

 

[purple sue]

The Attorney General and Chief Hallem both know where she is and what she does, it is that hard to get this to stop. This is one of those easy crimes out there to get away with. Sue

 

[Anne]

I don't get it either! I don't know how someone can still be operating "this" business when they don't keep their word. I would think that would be grounds for the next step (whatever that may be). As for Puppyfind.com... That is where I got my puppy. I reported Tammy three times! I was told after three negative reviews, they would look into removing them. Well... There have been more than three negative reviews (which every time there was one Tammy had the ability to remove it, which I don't understand why or how you can do that, but she did. After so many she could no longer do that.) and as you can see they haven't been removed yet! I don't have a very high opinion of that site, especially do to the fact Puppyfind did not follow through with what they told me. It would be great if people would boycott that site. They would either have to close or revamp their procedures and stick with them! I'm hoping and praying people like you who visit this site can help us someway/somehow. Maybe there is something we are overlooking, that we need to check into. Please continue with any suggestions!!!!! Thank you to all that are trying to help!

 

[ngallo]

I think it would be harder to find people that got healthy dogs because they would not be looking on web sites to investigate being ripped off by Kritter Heaven, ya know what I mean?? There's a few posted on Chazhound, well one for sure, that says they had a smooth transaction with them. I know if I would've gotten a dog from them & it was healthy & happy, I probaby would not have stumbled across all of you nice people cuz I would have nothing to complain about, so why look on the internet? And heck, I love getting email from you guys!!! I still hate the fact that they ripped me off but.........I have met some extremely nice people from many different places!! I just kind of think of it as I paid $800 for all these nice new friends I have!! hehehe, not really, just kidding!!!! But it'd be interesting to talk to someone who had a positive transaction with these people. Maybe some of them will see these postings.

Annette

I acutally bought a puggle from Tammy last year this time. It took many calls, reporting her to the BBB, the sherrifs office and emails to get her to give me my puppy. After making up many excuses (she went through a hurricane, she can't make it to the vet for the check up before the flight, etc), she sent me my puppy. He arrived in okay condition. I took him to the vet the next day and he was in pretty good shape. He now is a year old and in excellent condition. My life wouldn't be the same without him

 

[purple sue]

I am happy to hear that you did get one from her. I got mine also but it was six months of ALOT of work. What kind did you get and where did you have the puppy shiped to? One of the points in getting the word out about her is that you shouldnt have to go thru all of this when you are just trying to make an addition to your family. They take something that should be fun and turn it into hell, what they do is wrong and no matter what I cant for the life of me understand how they keep getting away with it.

 

[annettebenak]

TO ngallo & otch

Otch, I believe most of us have reported our claims to the attorney general. I know I have. I filled out official paperwork that they mailed to me & I filled it out right away & faxed it to them. I also called the police & they never returned my call. But I know some of us have talked to the police. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS TO THEM!!! NOTHING EVER GETS DONE!!! We have NO idea why. It is very frustrating!!! Maybe Tammy has connections or something. It is really unbelievable that she is still selling puppies. And I would like to know WHY!!! Who keeps dropping the ball here????

NGALLO, I am very happy you got a healthy puggle!!! I know a puppy does add a lot of happiness to a family. BUT......you had to fight for your puppy so it wasn't a smooth transaction, right?? And that is not right. Do you think if you hadn't fought for your puggle, Tammy would have kept your money?? When you pay for something, you should not have to wait & wait & wait & then fight to get what you pay for. That is very bad business. The good news is, you did fight for your puppy & luckily you got a healthy one!!! What's is your puggle's name???? It is still good to hear that Tammy does sell some healthy pups. It'd be nice to hear a story of a nice & smooth transaction though. Someone who got a healthy puppy without having to fight for it. It's just not right!!!! She is a CROOK!!!

 

[JessicaMarie]

healthy puggle

Make note that I posted about my puppy.. and after the vet visit, and he's healthy . Not to mention, I drove to her house the day I was getting him, and picked him up without hassle. Also..the Diarrhea that I mentioned him having was caused by switching foods. She told us that she fed him purina puppy chow, so we bought that, took him home, and tried giving that to him, but he wouldn't eat it, so we changed to Hills Science Diet (forget the exact name). And the vomit wasn't from him. My kitten had the flu, or whatever, we know this because we took her to the vet and got her checked out. But anyway, hopefully something will be done about this and those people will get off of their lazy butts and do something!

 

[otch1]

Hi Anne and Annette, maybe it's time to start a petition? One that collects signatures from everyone here, from those petitioning with the attorney general, the better business bureau, and the surrounding community that I suspect has issues with the business she's running in their neighborhood. This petition can be posted on a website and sent to the attorney general, letting him know you all intend to take this to the "next level" of authority, if this is not addressed by a certain date.

 

[bassoon3]

Wow - you all have no idea how much headache you just saved me!

I had just sent Tammy Gilchrist a deposit tonight - then came home and googled her and found this :yikes: . I had asked to see the puppy and give her the money in person since I live in Indiana and she told me no - something about her being afraid someone coming in person would get the puppies sick and how they were all housed in heated kennels. I can't believe I fell for that. I went straight back to Wal-mart and managed to cancel the money transfer before she had a chance to pick it up. Walmart gave me back my money AND the fee to send it!

God is good - and bigger than anyone's ill-intentions!

Now how do I go about getting a legitimate puppy? After contacts with three individuals, I've found three frauds. Maybe God is trying to get it through my thick skull that this is frivolous...

 

[Zoom]

Bassoon, there is hope! Take a look around the rest of the board, or just search for "reputable/responsible breeders". We have quite a few rep. breeders on here, so they can give you some tips or maybe even contacts.

What type of puppy are you looking for?