Do They Need These 2nd Vacinations?

[Juicy]

So my vet had us get the puppies vacinations at six weeks old. But now I'm reading on how its not recommaned to get vacinations until 8wks. old due to higher vacination allergies in toy breeds. So now the vet is sending us reminder for their 2nd D2P-PV, is this going to affect them? They JUST got vacinations in march, why a need for another set of the same thing? Does it wear off or something?

 

[Buddy'sParents]

You can google and find a lot of info on vaccinations. I believe that puppies should received very limited vaccs if any at all. All of my dogs will be titered from here on out.

 

[Juicy]

What's titered? I want them to atleast have vaccine to prevent them from parvo and things of that sort before we go to dog parks, ect. The rabies I'm waiting until 6months. I just want to know why the 2nd and is it really needed if they already had the same shots prior a month ago?

 

[GlassOnion]

The way we do it is:

8 weeks:
DHLP-PV 1st

10-12 weeks:
DHLP-PV 2nd
KC 1st

14-16 weeks:
DHLP-PV 3rd (and last)
KC 2nd (and last)
Rabies


The reason for giving multiple shots is to re-enforce the bodies ability to take up the new vaccination. Unfortunately not every dog takes the first try and titers are expensive/take a while, in which time the puppy can get parvo from not having the body take to the vaccine the first time (or even the second time).

But yah we wouldn't have given shots to a 6 week old puppy. They're still good on their mothers antibodies at that point (and will be for a few more weeks).

 

[elegy]

puppies need to be vaccinated every 3-4 weeks until they are fifteen weeks old. pups get antibodies from mom that protect them for awhile, but these wear off as the pups grow up. problem is, we don't know exactly when. the antibodies also prevent vaccines from being truly effective, so if a pup still has mom's antibodies when he's vaccinated, he's not going to be stimulated to make his own antibodies, and once mom's wear off, he'll be unprotected.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

No, vaccines aren't always needed. Especially the second and third and etc.. round.. how much poison do we need to inject in our dogs, anyways?

A titer is a test that is done to measure a dog's antibodies. I had a great link and can't find it, but this one may do for now. http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/titer_test.htm I think red also has a great site that she refers people to, do a search on her in the health section.

I highly suggest reading up on vaccines before subjecting your dog to them.

Here is a good site:

http://www.truthaboutvaccines.org/

And another:

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/vDrDodds.html

Ok, one more:
http://www.vonhimmelrotts.com/titer_testing.htm

 

[GlassOnion]

No, vaccines aren't always needed. Especially the second and third and etc.. round.. how much poison do we need to inject in our dogs, anyways?

About 1 cc of it apparently. How is it poison, exactly? If the body has built up an immunity to it then no harm no foul. If not, then that's the whole purpose of the vaccination, to correct that problem.

 

[Juicy]

No, vaccines aren't always needed. Especially the second and third and etc.. round.. how much poison do we need to inject in our dogs, anyways?

A titer is a test that is done to measure a dog's antibodies. I had a great link and can't find it, but this one may do for now. http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/titer_test.htm I think red also has a great site that she refers people to, do a search on her in the health section.

I highly suggest reading up on vaccines before subjecting your dog to them.

Here is a good site:

http://www.truthaboutvaccines.org/

And another:

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/vDrDodds.html

Ok, one more:
http://www.vonhimmelrotts.com/titer_testing.htm

Thank you for the research. So this is also for adult dogs as well? I'm thinking of just getting 3year around rabies and heartguard [maybe? is that really needed?] instead of yearly booster shots [like distemper].

What vaccines do you give your dogs, and how often?

So you would say its good to go for the pups to be expose to dog parks and be safe from dogs [although not permitted, still happens] that might not be vaccinated and might be carrying these diseases? Or go for the 2nd?

The pups took longer nursing [more than 8wks.], but now they've finally stop.

I feel like a terrible dog owner, I don't give my dogs filtered water. They are constantly getting the bowls dirty when they drink, so I don't bother with bottle water since it would be quite expensive to keep up with the water changing, esp. all the water bowls I have.

 

[TheWonderPuppies]

I do puppy shots two sets(one at 8 weeks one at twelve)and yearly rabies (starting at 6 months)cause they are required. I titer for their other shots though.

 

[happyhound]

No, do not expose them to dog parks or any area that other dogs frequent until they've had ALL their puppy boosters. Things like parvo can stay in the ground for long periods of time and is not fun to deal with (not to mention expensive).

 

[Juicy]

How many puppy boosters are there?

 

[Juicy]

My vet just has schedule the 2nd booster, and thats it. Other vaccines aren't till the next year.

 

[GlassOnion]

I feel like a terrible dog owner, I don't give my dogs filtered water. They are constantly getting the bowls dirty when they drink, so I don't bother with bottle water since it would be quite expensive to keep up with the water changing, esp. all the water bowls I have.

Why would you give your dog filtered water?

And no don't take them to the dog park as a puppy. Parvo can remain in the ground for 6 months. It's a very hardy little ******* and you can't cure it once they got it. Only thing you can do is help the puppy fight it off themselves and support them with fluids/fight secondary infections.

A parvo puppy is NOT a fun deal and neither is the 50% mortality rate (and that's catching it relatively early).

 

[Juicy]

'' They also need clean filtered
water, at least from the refrigerator & not through a Brita or Pur filter, and

ideally it should be Reverse Osmosis. With RO., we suggest you add a mineral

supplement''

 

[TheWonderPuppies]

Mine drink good ole tap water.Well except when we lived in Lousisiana the iron count was too high no one could drink it.....unless it was filtered, but mine also think the toilet was the best thing ever invented.

 

[Juicy]

Why would you give your dog filtered water?

And no don't take them to the dog park as a puppy. Parvo can remain in the ground for 6 months. It's a very hardy little ******* and you can't cure it once they got it. Only thing you can do is help the puppy fight it off themselves and support them with fluids/fight secondary infections.

A parvo puppy is NOT a fun deal and neither is the 50% mortality rate (and that's catching it relatively early).

Not even if I get the 2nd booster? It still won't help prevent? :yikes:

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Thank you for the research. So this is also for adult dogs as well? I'm thinking of just getting 3year around rabies and heartguard [maybe? is that really needed?] instead of yearly booster shots [like distemper].

What vaccines do you give your dogs, and how often?

So you would say its good to go for the pups to be expose to dog parks and be safe from dogs [although not permitted, still happens] that might not be vaccinated and might be carrying these diseases? Or go for the 2nd?

The pups took longer nursing [more than 8wks.], but now they've finally stop.

I feel like a terrible dog owner, I don't give my dogs filtered water. They are constantly getting the bowls dirty when they drink, so I don't bother with bottle water since it would be quite expensive to keep up with the water changing, esp. all the water bowls I have.

Juicy, I can't tell you what to do for your dogs, I can only tell you what I do and/or plan to do and share what I've read.

I no longer vaccinate my dogs and do not give heartworm medications. Any treatments/preventions for fleas and heartworm are natural at this point.

If you classify yourself as a bad dog owner because you don't give bottled water, I suppose my name should be added to the list. I change the water in my dogs bowls regularly- it gets dirty, they are dogs! lol Don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[happyhound]

I think at many dog parks the minimum age is 4 months.

Also, I drink tap water so my dogs do, too. If I'm not too good for tap water then they aren't either. lol

 

[Juicy]

How much contact with the floor does it take for a pup to catch parvo? I've walked them before [thinking the parvo vaccine they've received would prevent them], they walk/run on the sidewalk and they only poop and pee on the grass when they need to.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Not even if I get the 2nd booster? It still won't help prevent? :yikes:

Buddy had his parvo shot and still got parvo. Nothing is ever certain, unfortunately.

As for the water thing... some water in some places is pretty bad. My dogs don't get filtered water, but they do have stainless steel bowls and no plastics. Small steps, though, small steps...

How much contact with the floor does it take for a pup to catch parvo? I've walked them before [thinking the parvo vaccine they've received would prevent them], they walk/run on the sidewalk and they only poop and pee on the grass when they need to.

I would say little contact. Parvo can survive for a very, very, long time, in the most extreme of weather conditions. And I would NOT take the pups out in public when they are so young.