Anyone ever seen this breed?
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Well if everyone thinks you shouldn't breed muts but should breed pure bred dogs then you are also in the wrong. Those breeding pure bred dogs are doing it for the purpose of profit. Plain and simple. If you would go out and buy a pure bred then you are in the wrong because you should have gone to the shelter and get a less fortunate homeless dog. And yone who would buy a pure bred dog and bash me for getting a mutt is a hypocrite.
Well, go back and read most a little more closely. I think you will find you misunderstood it.
However, you should understand that a responsible breeder makes virtually ZERO profit because it is expensive to breed, and to provide all of the necessary care. This is why I do think it is silly to think that you are saving yourself money by breeding rather than going to the shelter. If she is doing everything properly, she will spend every bit of that three hundred dollars per puppy giving the proper care, and the cost of nuetering/spaying. And again, this cost is a drop in the bucket in relation to the total cost a responsible owner will spend over the life of the dog. If three hundred dollars is a deal breaker, then someone shouldn't sign on to the responsiblities of getting a dog because they will drop a lot more caring for the dog and feeding it.
However, you should understand that a responsible breeder makes virtually ZERO profit because it is expensive to breed, and to provide all of the necessary care. This is why I do think it is silly to think that you are saving yourself money by breeding rather than going to the shelter. If she is doing everything properly, she will spend every bit of that three hundred dollars per puppy giving the proper care, and the cost of nuetering/spaying. And again, this cost is a drop in the bucket in relation to the total cost a responsible owner will spend over the life of the dog. If three hundred dollars is a deal breaker, then someone shouldn't sign on to the responsiblities of getting a dog because they will drop a lot more caring for the dog and feeding it.
Alot of breeders I know would be very offended by someone saying that.
How ignorant to think that all pure bred breeders do it for profit... Most breeders make their money other ways and breed to improve the breed. Alot certainly dont make big money on it, if any at all...
People pick breeds for certain predefined characteristics, if i just wanted a companion wtihout any special traits, I'd go to the nearest shelter and picked a dog from there!
Well I wanna thank Pixie and Katooka for being calm and friendly about this whole thing. Other than those 2, you are the biggest group of unfriendly people I have ever met. The first time I ever post on these forums and all I get is an angry mob bashing me and my family for something that YOU believe in. Apparently you have no appreciation for a mutt on these forums and I will take my discussion to another place.
Again, you misunderstand. I never once said anything unkind to you or your puppy. Not a single person here said anything unkind about your puppy. He certainly is very cute. Please take good care of him and give him lots of attention.
It does seem that there is some information that you did not previously have at your disposal. Please don't take offense that others want you to be aware of it. Also, please look at all of the other posts on this site. You will find a ton of good training information, health care information, and nutrition information. Just don't be too thin skinned to learn something new.
It does seem that there is some information that you did not previously have at your disposal. Please don't take offense that others want you to be aware of it. Also, please look at all of the other posts on this site. You will find a ton of good training information, health care information, and nutrition information. Just don't be too thin skinned to learn something new.
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I am so sorry you feel some were harsh. It is only due to the extreme amount of dogs that are in shelters right now. There is alot to learn here so stick around and you will see why people are so passionate about stopping back yard breeding.
BTW, I breed purebred dogs.......not exact figures but close.......
I have over $13k in Zoe. That is health clearances, titles, purchase price, stud fee, etc.......
Am I making money? Ha ha, funny question. I make NO profit. The money I get from the pups helps to better the breed because I am producing top notch pups. The only breeder that makes good money at breeding must own a puppy mill.
Sorry you got bashed, Bentor. I know you only wanted opinions on your puppy. It is cute.
The breeding issue is a very passionate subject on this forum. An over-abundance of dogs are in shelters needing good loving homes because of irresponsible breeders. Mutts and purebreds. Don't take it personally, you weren't the breeder. However, if your sister does decide to breed again you might want to bring that to her attention. It would be sad to see one or two of the next possible litter end up in a shelter or worse.
The breeding issue is a very passionate subject on this forum. An over-abundance of dogs are in shelters needing good loving homes because of irresponsible breeders. Mutts and purebreds. Don't take it personally, you weren't the breeder. However, if your sister does decide to breed again you might want to bring that to her attention. It would be sad to see one or two of the next possible litter end up in a shelter or worse.
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Welcome to Chaz ..... this is how it is here. MOST (I didn't say everybody) can care less about MUTTS. They even involved your sister who isn't even on this forum. I still don't understand why you got bashed when all you asked if anybody has seen that breed.... and yes it's a breed! It's a breed of the male and female dog. Maybe not a recognized breed by some "club" but who gives a F. He likes his pup... his sister bred them... they went to homes....she is entitled to her own life and opinions. I don't understand why you must involve somebody of the 3rd party to this thread.
I think it would be more accurate to say that the people here are against the intentional creation of mutts, (as well as the unintentional/negligent creation as a result of the failure to spay/nueter + failure to restrain pets). However, they are all for adopting the ones and caring for the ones that are already out there.
You know... a MUTT is still a dog. And a lot of you act like mutts are like a plague or something. I may be wrong... but don't a lot of breeds get to be a breed by mixing them with other breeds??? What is the big deal if you own a mutt or get it from a friend who had a litter of mutts. I personally love rottweilers and that would be my first choice of dog because I find them beautiful in so many ways. But I've had 3 that have all died recently due to old age and cancer and could not bring myself to get another rottie at this time because I still grieving so much for the 3 I lost back to back not to mention my little pug who also has passed on at the ripe old age of 17.
My dog that I have now is a MUTT. My neighbor was irresponsible and her female dog who is also a mutt got pregnant. So, am I wrong to get one of her pups rather than a shelter dog?? I should say not.. I am providing this pup with a loving home and provide all the proper care needed for her to be healthy and strong.
I understand that there are many unwanted mutts that are dying in shelters everyday, and I DON'T support intentionally breeding mutts for this reason. But geez.... do you always have to bash people that come here to this forum all excited about their pup and wanna share the excitement with what they believe to be fellow dog lovers.
There is no warning sign attached to the chas forum link saying if you are a mutt owner don't bother to enter because you will not be treated kindly and your dog will never be accepted for the shear fact it's a mutt.
I have tried not to take a lot of the comments about mutts personal but sometimes you guys don't realize how awful you treat someone... whether it be an owner of a mixed variety dog or one of those cockapoo's or whatever. The bottom line is that they are a DOG... just like one of the fancy pure breed dogs you all seem to hold up on pedestals. And EVERY dog no matter what breed or lack of particular breed deserves to be loved.
If we weren't talking about dogs... this would be such a discrimination factor. Would you go and tell a bi racial person they are not part of the human race because they are a "mixed" breed??? I should hope not.
I am done venting, and I know my posting is not gonna change anything when it comes to the mutt war on this forum. I think it's sad because there are a lot of people that come here looking for advice, information and just a place to share their excitement about their own dogs and many of you run them off with your hateful words.
My dog that I have now is a MUTT. My neighbor was irresponsible and her female dog who is also a mutt got pregnant. So, am I wrong to get one of her pups rather than a shelter dog?? I should say not.. I am providing this pup with a loving home and provide all the proper care needed for her to be healthy and strong.
I understand that there are many unwanted mutts that are dying in shelters everyday, and I DON'T support intentionally breeding mutts for this reason. But geez.... do you always have to bash people that come here to this forum all excited about their pup and wanna share the excitement with what they believe to be fellow dog lovers.
There is no warning sign attached to the chas forum link saying if you are a mutt owner don't bother to enter because you will not be treated kindly and your dog will never be accepted for the shear fact it's a mutt.
I have tried not to take a lot of the comments about mutts personal but sometimes you guys don't realize how awful you treat someone... whether it be an owner of a mixed variety dog or one of those cockapoo's or whatever. The bottom line is that they are a DOG... just like one of the fancy pure breed dogs you all seem to hold up on pedestals. And EVERY dog no matter what breed or lack of particular breed deserves to be loved.
If we weren't talking about dogs... this would be such a discrimination factor. Would you go and tell a bi racial person they are not part of the human race because they are a "mixed" breed??? I should hope not.
I am done venting, and I know my posting is not gonna change anything when it comes to the mutt war on this forum. I think it's sad because there are a lot of people that come here looking for advice, information and just a place to share their excitement about their own dogs and many of you run them off with your hateful words.
You know, it isn't the breeding of "mutts" that gets to me, its the breeding that people do, regardless of how it affects the offspring, so they can have hip problems or what have you, to make a profit. Purebreds are in shelters just as often (sometimes more) than mixed breeds.
**Some of us need to watch how we're wording things because its coming out very negatively and makes people think they are getting attacked
Edit: Does he have a name? He's very cute, and unique looking!
**Some of us need to watch how we're wording things because its coming out very negatively and makes people think they are getting attacked
Edit: Does he have a name? He's very cute, and unique looking!
orion, your first comment on this thread was an insult. I think if you were on the receiving end of your comment you may see it differently. I would have been offended if it was said to me. People have valid points here on this thread about breeding mutts. But this person came in here just showing a picture of her pup and wanting to know if anyone has seen one like it before. They did not come here to post a thread about why mutts are less than worthy dogs in the eyes of many chaz people here. I just think it's a shame that this person felt so unwelcomed here. I too have felt very un welcomed at times and other times I have gotten a lot of support and good advice and I guess that's what has kept me coming back. But lately.. I see more and more hateful bickering and fighting and condescending comments. Isn't this a forum where people can come and just talk about their beloved dogs and get advice and support?? It's getting more and more difficult to do that here.
Yes, his name is Scooter. He is a very active little dog. Very healthy too. He and my friend's Boston play a lot and they get a long very well. I gotta get him snipped in the next couple of months so he won't be very happy about that. He is just figuring out that when he gets in his taxi on his own at night to go to sleep, he gets a treat and he is already potty trained. We are getting some of his brothers and sisters together for a little family reunion this weekend. That should be fun.
My first post stated two things
1. That the dog is a mutt, mixed, whatever. Its true. I did not say that his dog is somehow inferior to others. I dont appretiate when people breed dogs in their backyards then make up breed names for those dogs.
2. I think his sister is irresponsible and inconsiderate of the current dog situation in the country.
His pup is good looking, but it certainly doesnt negate me being right on both of my points.
Not my fault that people cant take comments without taking them personally... Besides, you'd be surprised how often my dog is called a mutt. I dont care I got used to it, even though he's a pure bred dog.
1. That the dog is a mutt, mixed, whatever. Its true. I did not say that his dog is somehow inferior to others. I dont appretiate when people breed dogs in their backyards then make up breed names for those dogs.
2. I think his sister is irresponsible and inconsiderate of the current dog situation in the country.
His pup is good looking, but it certainly doesnt negate me being right on both of my points.
Not my fault that people cant take comments without taking them personally... Besides, you'd be surprised how often my dog is called a mutt. I dont care I got used to it, even though he's a pure bred dog.