6 deaths today

[frenchboxer]

I can only assume you're from the UK?

Tescos - cheese counter. Marmite cheese. Do it... It's only a small roll (tiny), but you must be able to buy big ones somewhere.

Yes, originally from the UK, now living in South Africa. So jealous you have the Marmite cheese!

PD I couldn't care less about cyber popularity nor about putting my personal details here for all to see. I joined this forum so as to read more about blind dogs as mine has recently lost her sight, but the SA post caught my eye first. I am not a great one for posting truth be told. So 8 people dead from swine flu - I wonder how many from murders, violent crimes, illnesses etc. etc. etc.

 

[Dizzy]

Is confused.

Same person?

You ARE an 'established member'?

However, marmite trumps all known anythings. It's fact.

 

[smkie]

I commend the op for caring about her hired help and her family. Prayers that none catch this. We know about car accident stats and the rest, but one more added worry is one more added worry. Hope those that be find the right answers. I would be one of those with a broken immune system and that is one worry i do not need.

 

[Doberluv]

I don't know why people always say, "Just the flu" like it's no big deal. The flu, just about any flu can be very dangerous. It has killed lots of people. (sure the statistics may not make it the highest thing on the list) So what. It is not a minor thing to get the flu and not every immune system, even a good one can always lick it. Aging people or very young are more susceptible. Or people already sick with something else.

I have a good immune system. I am one of those pepole who never get sick. I don't even get colds very often. Even as a kid, I only got sick once in a great while. I've been exposed to all kinds of things and seem to resist them. As an adult, I did get the influenza type A and was VERY ill. I was so sick, I almost died. Very high fever and VERY delirious. And I almost bit the dust with a bacterial pneumonia. Oh... and that was when I lived in a brand new 4000 sq ft house in Washington state, U.S. (not a 3rd world country) with running water and even a working septic system. Imagine that

Flu has wiped out fairly large numbers of people and they weren't all from unsanitary countries with sewage infested drinking water, no soap and no immune systems.

I guess it's a crap shoot to a degree whether someone will be over taken by it or not. It takes an extraordinary immune system to fight off some diseases in certain situations. And even good immune systems can't always win....obviously or hardly anyone would get sick. And a fair number of people do get sick. If immune systems were everything they're cracked up to be by some people, no one would get sick. No one would get cancer or aids or the flu or the common cold.

I am so sorry for those people with this flu going around if it's so bad that it's killing people. I'm sure statistically it isn't as big as a lot of other things. And I believe it that the media can over play things a great deal of the time. But for those 6000 people or whatever the number is, that's no small matter.

 

[Renee750il]

But I thought everyone on Chaz were tits! LOL!

No . . . Eddie and Andrew LIKE tits.

And, PD, one of the things I like about you is the way you do care and care for people in your life whom others would dismiss.

 

[release the hounds]

but it is just the flu. It's always been around, it always will be. It's part of life, even when the weather is warm, a large percentage of the poplulation has active flu viruses in their mucus membranes living like normal, yet nobody is sick. They're always around.

why get all worked up? why worry? why not focus on things that really matter? That's how I see it.

The danger from the flu is a secondary bacterial infection and if we'd quit throwing antibiotics around like candy an pumping them in animal feed and everything else they'd be more effective for longer and even less people would have to die in the future.

 

[Doberluv]

Yes, I know about secondary bacterial infections. (I was in the medical field too once upon a time) And I agree whole heartedly about the misuse of antibiotics. But nevertheless, if our immune systems were so fool proof, we wouldn't get those secondary bacterial infections in the fist place. Fact is, we aren't always strong enough. But obviously, some of us succumb. (Yes, I realize that our world is not sterile and that these bugs do live amongst us.)

The OP has, IMO a valid reason to worry about her loved ones in the midst of what's going on there around her. To brush it off or ask "why get all worked up, why worry, why not focus on things that really matter"....is perhaps a little insensative. (?) Just a thought.

 

[release the hounds]

that's me, a bit insensitive, maybe, but absolutely nothing I said was not the truth. But you're right, worrying is so productive. It doesn't take the focus of more important things at all. As Frost once said, "the reason worry kills more people than work, is because more people worry than work"

 

[Doberluv]

But you're right, worrying is so productive

There's more to life and being human than being productive. The OP has concern over her loved ones. That is normal and human to have emotions and feelings. And you're an ass.

 

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[Doberluv]

 

[babymomma]

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Tut tut tuttttt!!

 

[puppydog]

Maybe my problem is that I DO care for Flora and her family. I worry about those less fortunate then me. My feelings have always been "there by the grace of god go I".

 

[Renee750il]

WHO | Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 - update 62 (revised 21 August 2009)

 

[puppydog]

Region
Cumulative total

as of 13 Aug 2009


Cases*
Deaths

WHO Regional Office for Africa (AFRO)
1469
3

AUGUST 13. Yes.

 

[Renee750il]

Apparently the WHO is expecting H1N1 infections to be doubling in the next months. And doubling again. So yah, while *worry* isn't productive, being aware and taking precautions to safeguard your health IS worthwhile.

 

[puppydog]

Yep, I am pretty shocked that it is spreading so fast. I am not worried about myself. I have just gone on holiday with a very close friend who had it. She was still coughing and was a little conjested but was otherwise fine.

My concern is for those people who live in less than ideal living conditions and do not have access to good medical care.

 

[Renee750il]

My concern is for those people who live in less than ideal living conditions and do not have access to good medical care.

That's almost always where diseases hit the worst . . . crowded living conditions, less than ideal access to hygiene and nutrition . . . Is it any wonder that there is always speculation that some of these diseases are created or at least tweaked in labs and targeted at thinning out the ranks of the poor? There's surely precious little done to mitigate the impact on the poorer segments of society in many countries that traditionally have a population that is at the more extreme edges of poverty.

Good on you for your concern, PD.

 

[release the hounds]

which is what I said intitially, take care of yourself. You'll probably never even get a sniffle, just like the vast majority of people that come in contact with the virus.

 

[bubbatd]

I was surprised to see that Americans had the most deaths . Buy hand sanitizers folks and spray ..... especially after handling money . I'm not running scared ....just cautious .