RTH - about the TVs... have you tried to make a barrier around them? It sounds crazy, but it has worked for me before. I've used cardboard and stuff like that, but what worked bast are those square wire things that you put together to make cubbies. You can wire them together as a 'fence' of sorts. Cats usually wont climb on unstable things - especially not ones that make a racket - so it could probably protect your TV well. Another option is the thick wire screens you can get from hardware stores.
None of those items look pretty, but I am sure something would work for you.
None of those items look pretty, but I am sure something would work for you.
Sorry, but you were the one comparing the two procedures, I just wondered how they could be compared as they are not even remotely for similar things.
And cat owners put up with **** a lot of the time.
If you don't LIKE it, don't get a cat.
My own cat took to pissing on beds for awhile, and on piles of clothes. And bringing dead mice to my room.
My mums cat sh1t in my sisters bed while she was IN it. If you locked Simba in a room by accident, he'd remove the carpet and pee wherever he liked. He also took to marking the house when I returned home with my cat and dog.
Did they get declawed or bungs up their arses? Hell no........ we invested in cleaner, ensured we check a room before we leave, seperated the cats at feeding time to reduce stress etc etc etc...
And no, we don't all have loads of time.
And cat owners put up with **** a lot of the time.
If you don't LIKE it, don't get a cat.
My own cat took to pissing on beds for awhile, and on piles of clothes. And bringing dead mice to my room.
My mums cat sh1t in my sisters bed while she was IN it. If you locked Simba in a room by accident, he'd remove the carpet and pee wherever he liked. He also took to marking the house when I returned home with my cat and dog.
Did they get declawed or bungs up their arses? Hell no........ we invested in cleaner, ensured we check a room before we leave, seperated the cats at feeding time to reduce stress etc etc etc...
And no, we don't all have loads of time.
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We had Tuppence, and she was mentalist. She left home one day and never returned 
the point isnt for you to go through each and every one of your cats... the point was I am sure there is something you and every single other person here does with their pets that I dont agree with or hounds, or beth doesnt agree with... I dont know what happened to your cat, I dont know if she slipped out when someone opened the door, or she was allowed out, and you dont need to say, it doesnt matter... the fact that you lost a cat this way doesnt make me think you love your animals any less. Eveybody does something with their animals that other people dont agree with... as long as people are killing their animals or neglecting them why should it matter?
My cats are free to use the cat flap.
Like I said, my cats NEED their claws to climb trees, eat birds and scratch up the neighbours shed.
You will find the majority of the cats in the UK are not house cats.
I hate to see cats indoors all the time, but that is a WHOLE other debate.
And for the record, on cat training - all of ours come to a bell
Like I said, my cats NEED their claws to climb trees, eat birds and scratch up the neighbours shed.
You will find the majority of the cats in the UK are not house cats.
I hate to see cats indoors all the time, but that is a WHOLE other debate.
And for the record, on cat training - all of ours come to a bell
With me mentioning in my prior post that vets seem to have a different approach on the subject of declawing compared to when I first got my cat declawed 20 years ago, they don't seem to push the procedure in my face, made me take a look at my vets website.
On their site I did see them mentioning a newer procedure called DDFT, Deep Digital Flexor Tenotomy. Where instead of amputating the finger digit, only the main flexor tendon of each digit is severed. So the cat is unable to retract their claws.
I wouldn't consider it for my cat, but as an alternative to declawing I think it's better. You still need to clip their nails, and I'd think it would be an obligatory clipping since the cat wouldn't be able to shed the old nails since they can't extract the nail...sounds sad when you think of it. Still, better then complete removal. No?
On their site I did see them mentioning a newer procedure called DDFT, Deep Digital Flexor Tenotomy. Where instead of amputating the finger digit, only the main flexor tendon of each digit is severed. So the cat is unable to retract their claws.
I wouldn't consider it for my cat, but as an alternative to declawing I think it's better. You still need to clip their nails, and I'd think it would be an obligatory clipping since the cat wouldn't be able to shed the old nails since they can't extract the nail...sounds sad when you think of it. Still, better then complete removal. No?
all of ours come to their name, I want to know how to keep them off the wall, and no i'm not buying poly to coat my walls. They'd probably just find it fun to slide down. if we let them outside they'd be dead on the road in less than a year, and old declawed cat Tasha was almost 18 and was bringing birds home weekly till she was gone ( I lived in a rural area when I was growing up)
I think this about covers it people.
There are some of you arguing against declawing who let/leave your beloved pet outside to face hazards more frightening and dangerous than having been declawed.
I am not telling you not to do so..........but let me tell you there are MANY who would. They think leaving your cat outside unattended is cruel and taking unnecessary risks. As many cats as I see with little collars on laying on the side of the road weekly, I can't say those people against it are wrong.
I do believe we have had threads right here on chaz arguing the point as well.
What it comes down to? It's YOUR animal, YOUR choice, and no amount of arguing back and forth is going to change any of your minds. Period.
There are some of you arguing against declawing who let/leave your beloved pet outside to face hazards more frightening and dangerous than having been declawed.
I am not telling you not to do so..........but let me tell you there are MANY who would. They think leaving your cat outside unattended is cruel and taking unnecessary risks. As many cats as I see with little collars on laying on the side of the road weekly, I can't say those people against it are wrong.
I do believe we have had threads right here on chaz arguing the point as well.
What it comes down to? It's YOUR animal, YOUR choice, and no amount of arguing back and forth is going to change any of your minds. Period.
Coop and HBH: :hail: Thank you, you both said it so much better than I could, the six times I tried to write a polite and insightful reply.
There is no harm in debate. However, I think the condescending tone of some of the responses leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I think we've successfully "debated" the topic into a circle
Thank you, you both said it so much better than I could, the six times I tried to write a polite and insightful reply.There is no harm in debate. However, I think the condescending tone of some of the responses leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I think we've successfully "debated" the topic into a circle