The Realities of Dog Fighting

pitbulliest · Oct 20, 2005

If anyone wants a good documentary on dog fighting...check out this DVD. I just got it in the mail...its hard to swallow and I had family members crying..but I think its an excellent resource..would be a good thing to send to those pro BSL politicians...maybe open their eyes!

http://offthechainproductions.com/store/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=780a77dad85e9b9ff342668997f05402

nedim · Oct 20, 2005

Thanks for the link pitbulliest. I have a feeling that this would be the right video to show my dad to get him to change his mind about so called "dangerous" breeds.

RD · Oct 22, 2005

pitbulliest said:

If anyone wants a good documentary on dog fighting...check out this DVD. I just got it in the mail...its hard to swallow and I had family members crying..but I think its an excellent resource..would be a good thing to send to those pro BSL politicians...maybe open their eyes!

http://offthechainproductions.com/store/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=780a77dad85e9b9ff342668997f05402

Ordering it now. Thanks for the link.

pitbulliest · Oct 23, 2005

No problem guys...its really graphic though..makes me sick to my stomach whenever I see the DVD lying on my shelf...ugh...

amymarley · Oct 23, 2005

I am a hard a**, but I wouldn't be able to watch.... my heart hurts! (without even seeing it).

filarotten · Oct 23, 2005

I was watching animal planet yesterday and they had a show on Houston spca rescuing pitbulls from a breeder who bred and fought them. They rescued about 50 dogs. Some appeared to be only a few months old and they were on huge chains. It was so sad. They showed some of the video where the owners were literally forcing the dogs to fight. It was so sad. I couldn't watch all of it, it made me cry. The really sad thing, most of the dogs were pts.

DanL · Oct 23, 2005

Whats the deal with those huge chains anyway, just more machismo? We saw a boy who was about 8 years old walking a pit pup and it had this huge chain that must have weighed 10lbs on it. How stupid.

gaddylovesdogs · Oct 23, 2005

filarotten said:

I saw that...they rescued 63 dogs!!! They were all humanely euthanized because they don't feel that previous fighting dogs make that great of pets.

filarotten · Oct 23, 2005

I knew it was a lot of dogs. ( your right the puppy mill was 50 something dogs) Isn't is sad. All because of people. Did they euthanize the little babies? I couldn't watch all of it.

Gempress · Oct 23, 2005

DanL said:

The theory is that the huge chain makes the neck muscles stronger. In reality, it just makes the dog less likely to move around. Sad, sad, sad.

Love4Pits · Oct 23, 2005

I would'nt be able to watch it. To imagine Zeus, Tundra, or Babe in the situation i would lose it.

pitbulliest · Oct 29, 2005

Yeah unfortunately some states believe that fighting dogs should be automatically PTS...this is a dumbazz theory, as fighting dogs can make great pets...they're not for everyone, but for an experienced pit owner..they are good dogs... of course, after proper behavioral assessment and some TLC...

animal aggression isn't a big deal...and its not something to put a dog to sleep over...if the dogs were mentally and physically abused and have some behavior problems that can't be fixed....like human aggression or something (which isn't normal for pits by the way), then I can agree...but gawd..putting perfectly good dogs to sleep just because they were used for fighting is lame.

DogLover4 · Oct 31, 2005

why were bull terrier not include in the pitbull ban in ontario

rottiegirl · Oct 31, 2005

Probably because people do not fight bull terriers any more, and you very rarely hear about an attack from a bull terrier. Sadly, there are not a whole lot of responsible pit breeders. The bull terrier is a different breed also. Shar peis were bred for dog fighting too, but they arent being banned either.

rottiegirl · Oct 31, 2005

I am not sure I agree with you. Pits that are bred for the sole purpose of fighting, just do not have stable temperments. Yeah it is very sad to see pits put to sleep just because they were used for dog fighting, but the safety of human beings comes first.

BigDog2191 · Oct 31, 2005

That doesn't make sense.

Why do you think pit bulls are used in dog fighting as a majority? Because the handlers had to come and break them up at some point. They couldn't have a dog that would bite the handlers.

If they were used in dog fighting, then they only hate dogs. That's why it's stupid to put a dog to sleep that was used in fighting- they could still make great dogs for people who can/will only have 1 dog.

Actually, on petfinder, I see pretty often: "suitable for a home with no other canines".

filarotten · Oct 31, 2005

The spca officers made the statement "they were not bred to be human aggressive". They were animal aggressive. If a pittie rescue group would have been involved, I am sure many of the dogs would have been saved. When the spca rescued the dogs, only two or three of the 63 dogs showed any aggressive tendencies towards the officers. Unfortunately, they don't have the time to retrain every dog that comes in from a rescue. But, couldn't they send them to a rescue group that would? Some of the puppys were not even weaned. It was so sad. I agree with you BigDog, it really doesn't make sense. So,so, sad.

rottiegirl · Oct 31, 2005

Well, dog trainers, veterinarians, and other experts have came to the conclusion that they are not safe and should be put down. I can tell you right now that those experts know alot more than you or me. Alot of pit bulls that are bred for fighting are infact human aggressive too. Of course the dog is not going to attack its owner or even family members, but once that dog sees a stranger or if he feels threatened, that dog will rip you to shreads. Fighting dogs do not stop attacking untill they are certain that you are dead. You cant tell me that most dogs who were bred and were trained to kill, are stable dogs. Yeah, I do realise that fighting pits are not supposed to be human aggressive, but not every person who breeds those dogs know what they are doing. People who breed fighting pit bulls and people who own fighting pit bulls use those dogs as guard dogs as well. Most fighting pit bulls are chained and abused. Chaining dogs makes them aggressive, and not to just other animals or dogs.

BigDog2191 · Oct 31, 2005

rottiegirl said:

Source?

Trained to kill other dogs. They will be stable with humans.

rottiegirl · Oct 31, 2005

Do you think people who breed fighting pit bulls are responsible? No! They dont know a d*** thing about breeding and genetics. You do not know for sure that all fighting dogs are safe, correct? This is just my opinion because I am no expert, but I would think that the pros know what they are doing (vets and behaviourists). Even if a fighting pit is not human aggressive, they are still dangerous, because they know how to kill, they were abused, and they could easily think that protecting his master means killing. A good guard dog will warn before they attack, and fighting pit bulls do not. A good guard dog will not kill the intruder, he will subdue him, but a fighting pit will go for his jugular and kill anyone who ventures onto his property. I am not saying that every fighting pit will kill a human being, I am just saying that some of them, if not most of them, will. I think it is just too risky, you are playing with fire.

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