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Whats a Whiled animal :confused:
I apologize, I am dyslexic and spelling is not one of my strong points. What I meant to write is wild animal. I would humble ask that people see past my disability, and please if you don’t understand something I have written, please ask me to be more clear. Thank you for your consideration.
 

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Dandandat...I really don't get it...you agree dogs should sleep outside? That she shouldnt have cleaned up the dogs space (which looks great now)? What are you saying?
I keep my dogs in side because I think that’s the right thing to do. But I am not judgmental and believe if this young lady loves and cares for her dogs it really doesn’t matter if they are inside our outside. Like humans, dogs can and do survive out door life, further dogs have lived out side for a long time in their history and are well adapted for it. You as their master still need to provided for them and make sure things are as good as they can be. But to judge this girl just because her dogs are outside is I believe wrong.

But that is neither here nor their, the real reason I disapprove of the behavior expiated in this thread is because all most all of the people involved have ganged up on this young lady, and for something that is really out of her control. She came her for advice, and while some gave it to her nicely others continued to harp on an issue that she can’t change and something that is not going to change any time in the future. This is called bullying.

What is worse is that this young lady has tired to do everything in her power to follow the instructions given to her. She’s cleaned up the back yard where her dogs sleep as is quite evident from the first pictures to the last. But people continue to bully her about the outside living issue.
 

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Some people eat People too.
Dogs are not people, no matter how much we would like to believe that they are. Societies are different around the world to some people dog is no different then goat or hen. They aren’t evil people because they do not prescribe to our societal norms.

This is no different then the outside living issue, it is clear this young lady lives in an different way then the people of this post do. To be prejudicial to her speaks ill upon those doing it not her.
 

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Perhaps so, but as the poster did come to us for advice, we gave her our best. It's true that there is a difference in cultural expectations about what is 'right' in dog care anymore, but it doesn't change the fact that dogs are still dogs the world 'round and they all have the same basic needs. I know the poster has made great strides in fixing up the areas and that's wonderful, we're just trying to tell her that there is still much to do. Right now it's adequate. It could be better, it was worse.

I'm personally not having so much of an issue with the sleeping outside than seeing an overweight dog on a chain. Even though there is apparently space to run, it's obvious the dog is not utilizing it. Most dogs aren't very good at self-exercising alone and I seriously doubt that chain is more than 30 feet long, which doesn't give much slack to get up a good run anyway. Same for the new pup. Good looking space, just very small to fulfill the exercise needs of a growing dog.
 

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Perhaps so, but as the poster did come to us for advice, we gave her our best. It's true that there is a difference in cultural expectations about what is 'right' in dog care anymore, but it doesn't change the fact that dogs are still dogs the world 'round and they all have the same basic needs. I know the poster has made great strides in fixing up the areas and that's wonderful, we're just trying to tell her that there is still much to do. Right now it's adequate. It could be better, it was worse.

I'm personally not having so much of an issue with the sleeping outside than seeing an overweight dog on a chain. Even though there is apparently space to run, it's obvious the dog is not utilizing it. Most dogs aren't very good at self-exercising alone and I seriously doubt that chain is more than 30 feet long, which doesn't give much slack to get up a good run anyway. Same for the new pup. Good looking space, just very small to fulfill the exercise needs of a growing dog.


I understand that, I saw no wrong with telling her one disagrees with her. I do see a problem with 5 pages of it though. She got the message the first three times it was posted. She said she wished it didn’t have to be that way, but it is not her choice to make, and so to continue to harp on it does no one any good. You also have to understand she has made 16 posts on this message board, while the rest of you have been friends for a long time. Intentional or not that comes off as bullying and its not very nice to her. This is even more important seeing that she has tired to listen to your advice and has done what she can, and I believe will continue to do what she can. She is young, and may not have the resources to make a supper dupper outside kennel for her dogs, she should not be judged for not doing so because of it.

Once again the chain is not in her control. If her father was posting here I would certainly be more tolerant if you all laid into him as you are doing to her, but he is not here and I think that has to be kept in mind.

Further I don’t think people are really listening to what she has said. She said the pup dog only sleeps in the dog house she set up for it. All other times it is which her. So your point about its exercise needs I don’t see it quite fitting the situation.
 

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Everything I would respond with right now is very far off topic and not helpful to the OP at all, so I'll just leave this to drop.
 

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No one is attacking or bullying anyone. People gave their opinions about the situation. Opinions can be strong and passionate. That is what happens on a dog forum. If there were bullying, personal attacks etc, the staff here would step in. The discussion is within the guidelines of this forum....except with the argument about bullying....that is off topic. So, either lets resume the topic of the original post or not. Frankly, IMO, this thread has out lived it's usefulness.
 
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Like i said before, she can RUN ALL THE WAY UP A 5 ACRE PADDOCK!:mad: Why has no one taken that into account, i even posted a pic of it. She has lots of room to run around. She doesnt chew her chain and she isn't unhappy! She is perfectly happy, she goes to the beach and plays with my pup. And pip and indie love to share her doghouse during the day. She is a happy dog. She is inside with me and Indie atm, sleeping with her. OK i just want to say thank you to all who posted informatively. You really did help me.
Still...she is chained up and that's no life for a dog. It's very sad!!! :( It can also be potentially dangerous if they were to get hung up on something.

I also realize that a lot of this is out of your control, but if you think about it like this: How would you like to be in that situation day after day. How would you like it? I don't think you would.

I know that you're trying very hard...I commend you for that, but like I said earlier....that is no life for a dog.:(
 

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I think we should let this drop, I got some help, but I was more insulted about my dogs. This may have "outlived it's usefulness" as you say but lets not forget who made it into the huge deal that it turned out to be! I Didn't ask for this to become a fighting thread. I did say a while ago that it should be dropped. We all know that some people support sleeping outside and some don't so lets just leave it at that! Thanks to all who helped me.
 
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