Puggle!

[krisykris]

I own two mixes of my own. 1- i bought from a pet store before I knew all about "designer" dogs and puppy mills. When I bought Bentley they said he was a yorkie poo, I knew that wasn't a "breed" but I loved him instantly and was ignorant. Then everyone started asking me on walks what he was. I would say a yorkie poo, then they'd go OHHH you have a designer dog!? You're SO lucky! He must have cost a bundle!!!

That's when I started to do some research and realized how many of these puppies were being bred. It made me sad to see mixes that really shouldn't be bred because they serve no real purpose other than being cute.

I'm still on the fence with some mixes though. I think some breeders of Labradoodles and Cockapoos are doing their best to hit a standard and hopefully one day get their dog registered into a breed.

 

[~Dixie's_Mom~]

KrisyKris, and Momof2pups,

Yes, she's a Silky/Yorkie. I don't believe in the purposful crossing of 2 breeds, but I wasn't always educated about over-population, or BYBs. Lucy's mother belonged to me(she was a Silky Terrier), and I agreed to breed her with a neighbor's Yorkie, thinking that because they looked alike, that I was getting the same thing that I would from a Silky to Silky breeding. WRONG. I was extremely uneducated, and all I had produced was a mix. I know better now, but but does this mean I love my dog any less? No....I love her, and I think she's beautiful. I don't see why anyone would think mixed breeds are ugly...Anyway, thanks! I'm glad you like her!

 

[Dreeza]

Oh crap I am reviving this thread and probably starting trouble but I have to say this....

How on earth can you think my dog is ugly? Some puggles are funny looking but can anyone really say Davey is ugly??

haha, AWWW what a cutie!!! i think a lot of puggles are funny looking too...but Davey is just adorable

 

[krisykris]

Dixie is so SO cute

Davey's adorable too

 

[~Dixie's_Mom~]

Thanks! Actually, my mix is Lucy. Dixie is a fullblooded Yorkie (in my sig.) Thank you very much! All my babies are awesome, and I love them so much!

 

[krisykris]

Well they're both adorable! I love any kind of terrier!

 

[Jessiep]

i am suprised in the difference of the three dogs that were posted on petfinder. The point isn't that you are wanting a dog or not, it is that you are feeding a part of society that is in the overall view of canine life on earth, causing harm. I am sure their are delightful puggles out there, but they had bad creators and until the population is under control where good dogs are not being put to death every single day, then any breeding imo is not a good idea. THat said, i do appriciate the breeders that stay to the true line, and breed responsibly..those breeders do NOT CROSS.

Please don't assume I am feeding into the puppymill part of society- I have not and do not.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

^ Ah, but the fact that you bought a puggle says to me that you are infact feeding the business. There is no REASON for these dogs to be bred. There are plenty of excellent companion breeds, and many small, housedogs available.

Why wouldn't you just buy a pug? Or a beagle?

~Tucker

 

[Dulce Pit Bull]

Who knows

Like I said before, there is a legit reason for breeding Labs/Poodles, because they both have very desireable traits.

Beagles are a very importrant breed, but Pugs? It's bad enough to breed these poor ogs do have smashed in faces, and have massive breathing problems, but to mix it in with a perfectly normal, desirable breed?

It confuses me to no end. I guess people want certain dogs because they're "cute"..but what happens when they aren't "cute" anymore?

 

[krisykris]

Jessie -- I think everyone has a different idea of what puppy mills are. Just recently I posted a thread on Rutland Manor who breeds Labradoodles. I got a big response that it was a puppy mill because they breed their females back to back.

In my opinion puppy mills are places where the animals are trapped in cages, have no love and attention, are not health tested thoroughly, ect. I didn't see as much of a problem w/frequent breeding.

I have since decided not to go with Rutland upon more investigation, but I still don't necessarily agree that they are a puppy mill completely. I think there are good AND bad things about them.

Anyhow, that's not the point. The major point I think most people are trying to make is that it's very hard to find a reputable mixed pup breeder. Most are out there just for the cash and not for betterment of the breed. That's what most people find troubling.

 

[AnimalLoverCatRescuer]

The major point I think most people are trying to make is that it's very hard to find a reputable mixed pup breeder. Most are out there just for the cash and not for betterment of the breed. That's what most people find troubling.

I think that is the whole point really. At least in my opinion. I just wrote an essay on it in another thread about puggles, heh.

But the main problem I have with breeding anything at all (and there are always going to be bad and good breeders out there) but the problem is that people don't take the time to find the good ones. I am sure there are a select few mixed breeders out there who do all the proper health testing, wait until 2 years when those tests can be done, breed only one dog/breed or so at a time, don't breed back to back, and also don't make money because they would really like to see the mix they care so much about become a breed someday

But they are so few and far between. They are also overshadowed by the mass produced pups from breeders with a hundred dogs at a time who always have many litters available and advertize all over the internet with pretty pictures of their dressed up dogs. These are the ones to avoid and the one's that make breeding mixes even worse then it really may be.

So to everyone who says they don't support BYB or puppy mill type of breeders and own a designer mix, thats fine but then lets see the name and website of the breeder you bought your mixes from. Just out of curiousity how many of them really are uneducated BYBers who had you completely fooled.

This is nothing against anyone in particular, just pointing out the fact that people are just too uninformed to know any better, thus creating the whole problem that bad breeders take advantage of.

 

[Jessiep]

You shouldn't assume all puggle owners got their dog or puppy from a store or breeder. Many due but there are puggle pups already out there in shelters and in free ads because they are so high energy owners often don't know what they are getting into.

 

[AgilityPup]

Ok, I didnt read the hole thing because I am sick and dont want to sit here to read it, but by the reactions of what I did read, are all of you guys who said "they are ugly as he*l" if there was one in your local shelter, and they were gonig to put it donw beucae os one of the many reasons they use, and this puggle looked and acted like it should be given a second chance, YOU WOULDNT BRING IT HOME, or at least try ot get it a home? Its not the dogs fault that the breeder bred it that way! They couldnt do anything about how they turned out or how STUPID their breeders were, I am in NO way saying I would go out and buy a puggle for 800$ or what ever it is they are selling them for, I am just saying if one came into our local shelter( and if my mum woud let me) I would bring it home, give it a nice place to stay, and TRY TO FIND IT A NEW HOME.


ONCE agian, IN NO WAY AM I GOING TO GO BUY ONE OR SUPPORT THE BREEDERS! But just think if we let the stay in shleters they will get killed if no one somes to get them, so why not give them a chance, the breeders dont really care what happens to them after, just as long as they get their money....


Have a nice day. Shay

 

[adoptashelterpettoday]

I can only sit back and hope this fad dies down SOON.

All we need are MORE mixed breeds who get stuck by a needle because no one wants them. The difference is most of the ones at the shelter are oops puppies not on purpose puppies. We have already euthanized a "goldendoodle" at our shelter this year and I doubt he will be the last. If you are interested in getting a "labradoodle" or a "puggle" or any other MUTT, please check your shelter and also check this website out: http://www.poomixrescue.com/ there are TONS of MUTTS who are intentionally bred who are dying in shelters. I heard there is something like 42 "labradoodles" are are at a kill shelter somewhere in OK.

There is no reason to cross a beagle and a pug period except they are popular now and people make money off of them. Show me any respectable designer breeder. I have yet to see one because they dont exist. they care about $.

You all can believe what you want but you arent the ones who have to tell the dog you are sorry you cant save it and you are sorry he/she had an irresponsible owner/breeder but hopefully he/she will have it better at "the bridge". We have a hard enough time as rescuers saving the oops litters. There is NO reason to add intentionally bred mutts into the mix.

If the "puggle" breeders care so much about the breed then why have I not EVER seen a "puggle" or "doodle" breeder who rescues as well? Yet I know of quite a few pure bred breeders who rescue as well as breed??

Then get the fun task of spending 24 hours trying to get this mixed breed dog out of the shelter knowing that sure people are paying $2000+ for dogs just like this one but NO ONE wants this particular one because it is in the shetler. Yet in the back of your mind you know that someone INTENTIONALLY bred this dog... Hm..How strange is that? It's very frustrating.

And unless you are involved in rescue you will never understand. I know of 0 rescuers who support the breeding of mixes (desinger dogs whatever you want to call them) yet every one of those rescuers is perfectly okay with responsible breeding.

I have yet to see any "labradoodle" or "goldendoodle" or any MUTT breeder set a standard for their breed. They are in it for the $ and it is pretty obvious to anyone who looks at it from the outside.

Again why dont you stand in my shoes for a day and work as hard as I do to get a single animal out of my shelter. Then tell me if mixed breeding is a good idea....Better yet try to get one of the "labradoodles" or mixed breeds out and see how much luck you have (NONE) and realize that people are paying 2000+ for the same darn dog.

It's all great until you "walk a mile in my shoes".

Personally I dont care for puggles, I dont find them attractive to the eyes at all. I think beagles are cute and I also think Pugs are cute.

If you want a puggle or a labradoodle or a goldendoodle or any "designer dog" please visit your shelter first and see all the cute dogs that will die because you decided to spend $2000+ on a mutt that you could have saved from the shelter. There is NO excuse for any of the designer dogs.

There are no no shed dogs and if you want a low shed/less allergenic dog, get a poodle, or another breed that is less allergenic.

Because truth is you get no guarentee and in a month, when you find out you ARE in fact allergic to it. Where is that dog going to end up? In MY shelter with me trying to scramble to save it's life before it is euthanized, and most of the time myself and my fellow volunteers are sadly not sucessful. If it was a poodle, sure I could probably save it but no one wants to adopt a Labradoodle instead they want to pay $5000 for one from a crappy breeder who will sell the dog to the first person who has the money.

 

[adoptashelterpettoday]

Oh yeah and also, pure bred REPUTABLE breeders will go to the ends of the earth to save one of their dogs.

Example: I am on a show dals list. Most people on the list watch shelters for well bred dals. There have been 3 dogs in the last couple months who people have thought were well bred. Sure enough, all 3 were bred by reputable breeders. In one case the dog was 12 years old (Which is old for a dal). Guess what? Those dogs were safe in their breeders" house hours after they realized whose dogs they were. I have been told that the dogs will most likely live their lives out at the breeder's home. I mean these Dal breeders went above & beyond. Every time an email comes through about a well bred Dal in the shelter, every breeder on that list goes through their puppy pictures & tries to match the dog up to one of theirs. That is DEDICATION and taking responsibility for what you bred.

Hm...I wonder where the "goldendoodle's" breeder was?? I will tell you where it's breeder was, the breeder was counting their dam* money laughing at the sucker who bought a mixed breed for $2000


On top of that many dal breeders are extremly active in rescue. I know of one who runs her own *large* rescue. I know of quite a few who foster.