Puggle breeder defends herself here.

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Yuckaduck, you have went too far--both on the Today's Parent forum and this one where you have outright lies and do you know what you are doing with your posting below about Puggle breeder (though you have it listed as Puddles) is SLANDER.

The meaning of slander is this:
noun] words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another


[noun] an abusive attack on a person's character or good name
Synonyms: aspersion, calumny, defamation, denigration


[verb] charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The article in the paper sullied my reputation"

You know full well that the posting below about "Puddles" is full of lies--all of it. I never contacted you by any email and still haven't.
Where did you get any of your information? You sure like to say a lot of untruths when you think that I'm not finding out. We have some P.I's on the Today's Parent and we know of a LOT of other postings of yours. Want me to list a few here?

Furthermore, many of us on the other forum are well aware that you are not a dog breeder and never have been--though you sure portrayed yourself to be---and a dog trainer?? Yeah right...thats why you're asking advice elsewhere...and what an expert you are on dog food.....
And this fire that mysteriously happens as soon as someone else says they are a horse farmer themselves and gets a little too close to the truth about your horses...Are all those pictures on there just scanned out of books?
If this fire happened, why wasn't it in the newspaper? It would surely be in the Ottawa Citizen but you tell of Le Reflect and Vision---a fire of this magnitude would make it to the Toronto newscasts. But you don't even mention it---making it seem like you are just so emotional about it and you can't talk about it.....uh huh....
Did you honestly think you wouldn't be found out?

For anyone reading, our website is: http://natureridge.tripod.com

Anything this liar has said in the posting on this board here, just reverse it and thats the truth. I am also a UKC breeder of beagles in good standing. My pugs are unreg'd bcz when I was thinking about getting into breeding, a pet store lady told me that most people want a dog that is a purebred and looks like one (bcz it is one) but with prices of pugs being what they are (here in Canada, a reg'd pug goes for $12-1500 while unreg'd are $850 to $1000--I know in the U.S. they are much cheaper but thats the going prices here and I'm actually underpriced at $850 for blacks and $950 for fawns) that most people cannot afford the reg'd and dont want the papers unless they are going to show, etc. She told me to go for the unreg'd pugs bcz at those prices the average person or family esp. can barely afford that. My beagles are Reg'd and they are $350 which is a much more affordable price---makes sense, right?
Yes, I do breed puggles and started doing it about 7 yrs. ago--long before they became so popular and the popularlity is just starting in Canada. My puggles are also very reasonable for Canada---(again I realize the U.S. dog prices are much cheaper) but my puggles are $350. In pet stores here, they are $500 and up. I sold one last year to a couple from NYC and they are $1000-1500 there in the pet stores. I don't think I'm making a 'killing' on selling my YES THEY ARE HEALTHY pups! They are ALL vet checked and vaccinated and guaranteed. Don't believe anything yuckaduck says anywhere....
I breed dogs bcz I love them and enjoy my dogs---anyone who knows me or even people who come to buy, can see it instantly and I have many comments about that. I am a well respected breeder by past, present and repeat customers---as well as the local vets, etc. Even the humane society sends people to me and a pet store that doesnt sell pets. I don't sell to pet stores by the way...bcz I want to meet the person I sell to---I also don't ship for the same reason. Its pickup in person only including the couple from NYC who drove all that way at the end of November. (good thing the weather was good that weekend)
I have nothing to hide or would I come onto this forum? I am just fed up with yuckaduck and her lies not only on this forum but on the others I have seen her on.
 

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Listen, I don't know what kind of responses you think you'll be getting from us. We're all pretty close on chazhound.
 
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Yuckaduck is one of my best friends.She always tells me the truth and is not a liar.She is a good person and loves her family including fur members.Why are you harrasing her.She e-mailed me in tears today about you following her and I think you need to leave her alone.We have talked a few times on the phone as well lately because you are being quite a pest.She was just stating that you breed mutts and charge too much for a unhealth tested dog.Myself I wouldnt pay more than $50 for a mixed breed unless from Rescue or humane society.Breeders like you are just doing it for the money.Now please leave my friend alone,you have made her upset enough.Thanks Lisa.
 
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My business here is to defend myself against a liar

Too bad you are all being misguided here by her. Perhaps you should check out her other lies on other boards.
 
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I'm being a pest?

She was harrassing me, esp. for things that she doesn't know the first thing about and obviously you don't either. If you want to believe her lies, then you're as nuts as she is. She must live in a fantasy world.
 

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Perhaps you should re-think your definition of the word slander and then re-read your post.

BTW She can't possible have slandered you since she never named you. It's impossible to ruin the reputation of someone who has remained anonymous. :confused:

How did she damage your reputation? It looks like you are the one doing the damage to yourself since you have come on here announcing that was you she was talking about. Hmmm....
 
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Karen, how exactly did she pi** you off so bad you tracked her down to here? Can't you just shrug it off and say oh well. If you know the truth then so be it, but why watse your time with her?
 

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Karen,
Yuckaduck is one of my good friends as well! Please ;leave her alone and quit being a pest! I'm telling you like ppl above have said, we are very close here at Chaz, well some of us, and we don't need anyone like you to break up this nice happy family here!!!! So go and complain to some ppl who care.
 

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Tail_Chaser said:
Karen, how exactly did she piss you off so bad you tracked her down to here? Can't you just shrug it off and say oh well. If you know the truth then so be it, but why watse your time with her?
Amen sister/brother!!! I agree 110%!! ;) Way to go.
 
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Except that she has no proof

other than her words---we have proof that she's lying. Why don't you check out the Today's Parent Forum--Family Pets and see how she is protraying herself---and there are a lot of others. Here are a few:

Oh yes he is from 8 generations of police breeding and we got him because we had a trainer who trains with the OPP dogs who was suppose to help us. We were planning to breed the police dogs, eventually and were hoping Yukon would be our first dog in our breeding program. Of course many things need to happen before any of that happens. Like I need my house, and a proper set up for breeding. Then the dogs need tmperment tests and health tests and xrays and much more. Might help too if we actually had the dogs to do the test with. So it is only a future dream right now and in no way a reality. Now back to the trainer, he was suppose to help us and give us a free lesson each week in exchange for one free puppy when and if we ever did start breeding. Now the trainer decided that he would actually like to train Yukon as a police dog and sell him to the OPP as a trainer police dog. We of course said no we are not selling the little Yuck. So the nice guy that he is started giving us advice that we kinda found strange, like crating the dog 24/7 [we never did that], he told us to hit him over the head with the snap off our leash whenever he bit or mouthed us [again we did not do this]. I started getting really upset by the rough handling this guy was doing. He would almost hang poor Yuck when he was working with him, and we started having peeing problems with the dog. Everytime we would take a leash near him, he would squirt on the floor. So we found another trainer which is Manchesters who advises us over the phone and I look for advice and tips here on the forum. This caused a hugh war between the jerk and us, he admitted that he was leading us astray on the training because he was hoping we would get frustrated and just give him the dog. So now we are getting back on track. That is why we went for this dog, otherwise we would have not gotten any dog at this time in our life because if honestly we looked at our finances we can't afford a dog. But we have made sacrificies in other areas to be sure that Yuck is cared for and has enough of what all pups need. We have insurance and set aside emergency money for him, because you just never know. We are doing the best we can to be resposible owners and we do love the little monster.


et here she claims she breeds gsd's....

pictures of horses are not all
Your Message still mine or even still living. We had a serious barn fire a few years ago and lost everybody and have been slowly re building but have no intention of being anymore than a small hobby farm. Just don't have time for two toddlers and dogs and breeding GSD's and the horses too. I just want to make sure everyone does not think I am a hugh farm or something because I am not. Just hobby now. Thanks for all the compliments and those that don't like horses sorry!



Thats for starters. There are a lot more. But I can see that there is no sense with people if you can't see the truth here...and I'm unsure that its worth my time.
 

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Ok, I've now been to your website and re-read Yuckaducks post. I don't see anything wrong there. You are breeding mutts and while most of us don't approve that isn't anything I can change. She didn't call you by name, you are the one who came here and 'outed' yourself as a backyard breeder. If you were a responsible breeder you would breed for the betterment of your breed of choice and you would be lucky to break even. I love my dogs too but I don't breed them. They are mutts and I love them for it.

If you want to know about responsible breeding you should pay attention to threads by Love4Pits, Bubbatd, EliNHunter and Manchesters.
 
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She is slandering me

on the other forum---people know who I am there---and I have come here to defend my good name whether you know my name or not--she has spoken outright lies knowing it was about me.--She harrassed to the point that the posts were deleted. If you don't believe me, ask around there.
If you people cannot see the truth, and just want to defend her only bcz you know her, then its really not worth my time.
I just wanted you all to know that she is lying outright---and you've GOT to be wondering what other scam she's pulling on you all....and that she knows that we know about her on the tp forum.
 

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on the other forum---people know who I am there---and I have come here to defend my good name whether you know my name or not--she has spoken outright lies knowing it was about me.--She harrassed to the point that the posts were deleted. If you don't believe me, ask around there.
If you people cannot see the truth, and just want to defend her only bcz you know her, then its really not worth my time.
I just wanted you all to know that she is lying outright---and you've GOT to be wondering what other scam she's pulling on you all....and that she knows that we know about her on the tp forum.
So you thought you'd come on here and slander her? What's that saying about two wrongs...

These things tend to come out on their own so whether or not it's true, and I doubt it as I've talked to her extensively, I'd rather find out for myself. Now we just have two people with two different stories who want us to believe them.
 
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I know another byb like yourself who uses ukc becaue the good registries wont accept them as a breeder in good standing.Responsible breeding includes healthtesting,temperment testing and a contract.No there is not money in breeding dogs not if you are breeding quality but you seem to just be in it for money.I have also been to todays parent to see what your issue was.I found that you wouldnt even let yuck grief and had to keep bugging about the fire.Please get a life and leave her alone.
 
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And here

Again on the tp forum she portrays herself to be a dog breeder:
Notice the date. I think enough said---any of you should be able to figure out she's scamming you and WHY SHOULD YOU BELIEVE HER?

From hauger
Date Aug 11, 2005 - 2:52:45 PM
Subject German Shepherd Puppies
Your Message I have had a few emails about gsd pups. I am a breeder, yes but am on holidays to be a mom to my toddlers right now. I have sold all available doggies and at present only own a five month old male German shepherd. When my little human babies go to school I will be investing in working females to once again begin my breeding program hopefully with my male turning into a brilliant stud dog. It depends on xrays and temperment testing results. I also only breed working dogs so although they can be great companions they tend to be very hard wired to work so they sometimes are tougher to train. We breed more to the OPP standards. This does not mean we won't consider families but we are very picky who the pups go to as we love them all dearly. Thanks for all the emails I have recieved and I will post here when I start breeding again.
 

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There is NO defending yourself your adding to the problem breeding trend dogs and mutts!!!!!!!! You don't have a good name to defend.
 
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