PETA Kills animals?

[yuckaduck]

You are not being argumentative. It is good to ask questions and to question some thing. I have no other information but I believe what you see should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe PETA does go, maybe they don't. The only way to know for yourself is to research it and make up your own mind. I'm not saying they are lying or decieving the public but I do believe that things are not always as they seem. Good Luck wish I could help further but that is the extent of my knowledge on this.

 

[Saje]

Thanks for the link...I appreciate the opportunity to see what everyone is talking about. What leads everyone to beleive that what was shown in that video has any relation to iams/euk or P&G? I'm not trying to start and argument. Maybe I am missing something. I also find PETA to be a relatively questionable source (they don't exactly have an impressive track record). Is there any other info available that leads to the same conclusion.

Those are good questions. I don't really have an answer but in my mind I feel comfortable with companies like Natura who are very open about the tests that they do and how their animals are treated. They respond very quickly to questions and seem to be very open about everything. Proctor and Gamble test their products on animals. That's just a fact. So why wouldn't they do invasive testing for their pet food? If they aren't open about it what are they hiding? I don't assume that just Iams does this. I assume that every company that doesn't openly say they don't, do. Why else wouldn't they say that? It's good marketing.

Did that make sense?

 

[yuckaduck]

Agreed!

 

[MicFoster]

You asked "So why wouldn't they do invasive testing for their pet food?"

Could it be that the people who work for iams/euk care about animals. I think it is very easy to start rumors that quickly become "fact". I have yet to see a single bit of hard evidence that even alludes to these accusations. I don't personally feed iams (to low in protein), but I think it is ashame to see people making their mind up on a few baseless rumors.

It is important to find out what effects different ingredients have on pets. Isn't it better to find out the effects on a few lab animals than to produce and distribute large quantities of product that could be potentially harmful to our pets.

At some point every ingredient used in pet food has been animal tested. The companies that don't currently test on animals have that luxury because of the tests that have been run previously.

 

[Saje]

No where on there website does it say that they do not do invasive testing. Why not? Other companies have that information on their site

http://www.eaglepack.com/pages/about.html
We Make Our Own Food In Our Own Plants
Eagle Pack Pet Foods, Inc. takes pride in the manufacturing of our food. Employees are personally involved with pets. Most days there are several pets in the office. Our people show, field trial and breed. We support area humane and no-kill facilities. We do not do any testing on laboratory or caged animals, nor do we have a kennel facility. Food related palatability trials are done with breeders or as in-home trials.

Or readily available like Natura. I have all of their info on animal testing if you are intersted. They rescue dogs and cats - sometimes from other labs - and rehabilitate them. They don't do any invasive testing. Meaning they only check for things like palatibility and stools.

this is what Iams says

http://www.iamstruth.com/iamstruth/...rticle_Page.jhtml?li=en_US&pti=RP&articleID=2
We do not fund studies that require the loss of life of cats or dogs. We only conduct dog and cat studies that are the veterinary equivalent of nutritional or medical studies acceptable on people, including: urine, feces, blood and immune cell analysis, allergy tests, and skin and muscle biopsies.

We conduct studies with chickens and rodents consistent with Procter & Gamble's policy and practices.

Now where can I find Procter & Gamble's policies? And why do they do they do testing that other companies don't find necessary?

 

[blue]

You asked "So why wouldn't they do invasive testing for their pet food?"

Who asked this? I may have missed something. And why would somebody want to do invasive testing on their pet?

Could it be that the people who work for iams/euk care about animals. I think it is very easy to start rumors that quickly become "fact". I have yet to see a single bit of hard evidence that even alludes to these accusations. I don't personally feed iams (to low in protein), but I think it is ashame to see people making their mind up on a few baseless rumors.

What do you feed? I may not like PETA and do not support them but can you counter PETA's video about Iams/Euk? If you have something to make PETA look even worse than they do POST IT!! Or if you have something more shocking and make Iams look good make a new thread and POST IT!

It is important to find out what effects different ingredients have on pets. Isn't it better to find out the effects on a few lab animals than to produce and distribute large quantities of product that could be potentially harmful to our pets.

At some point every ingredient used in pet food has been animal tested. The companies that don't currently test on animals have that luxury because of the tests that have been run previously.

Every ingredient in food has been human tested as well, your point is what? I dont see feeding an animal human grade food the same as feeding an animal bone meal or any type of meal.

There are some weeks where money is tight where my dog is not alone in eating better than his/her owner.

 

[yuckaduck]

I don't know who does what because I don't work there, however when the Iams cruelty video became public I would have thought if it were not true and a flase rumor, Iams would have launched a massive law suit. I just can't image a company sitting by ideally after such a thing has been said and told to be a fact. If it is false then Iams would certainly get and exhaurberant amount of cash in a settlement and the video would disappear. I guess based on PETA's track record you can choose to believe or disbelieve anything, as with anything else. As long as you can sleep at night that really is all that matters.

 

[Renee750il]

How do you "know"?

Just reading a label on P&G/Iams/Eukanuba/Science Diet products tells the story on quality

 

[yuckaduck]

And I use to think they were the best money could buy. She what you have taught me. Big lessons here. Thanks.

 

[German_ShepherdLover]

I Hate Peta!!!!

 

[yuckaduck]

They sure are not all that they claim to be.

 

[Buckshot]

Quote from germanshepardlover/I hate PETA/endquote

PETA hates me.