OTCH dogs

[RedyreRottweilers]

For anyone who does not know, OTCH stands for Obedience Trial Champion.

In the US, a dog must have the UD title to earn OTCH points. It takes 200 points to earn an OTCH title.

This is one of my dreams to do one day.

And then there are people like this woman, Judy Howard, who has trained TWELVE dogs to the OTCH title!!

I sure would love to be able to attend one of her workshops.

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578809&page=5

 

[xpaeanx]

she must be a vampire or something... how can you do ALL that and still have time to sleep!

 

[Kayla]

That's my goal with Duke, as long as he always has fun along the way and never starts showing a dislike or extreme stress at trials then we are trying to go all the way to the top.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

If I am not mistaken, Judy has trained more dogs to the OTCH title than anyone else.

 

[doberkim]

it actually only takes 100 points to get an OTCH in the US - points are earned by placing 1st-4th in open and utility B and beating other dogs (more points are awarded for the more dogs you beat), and you are required to place first at least 3 times, once in each class.

i too, would love to put an OTCH on one of my dogs... Rah has the potential, he's just handicapped by his trainer

 

[Dekka]

OTCH requirements are different in different countries.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

My bad, it's 100 pts.

UD in the US = OTCH in Canada.

 

[borzoimom]

Acutally having a OTCh dog is not that hard. You take each or train each as a game like they do with agility. To get a OTCH you need fast sits, good attention, fast retrieves.. To me- it wasnt hard- however- at the time I was working with a breed that it fit natually.. Having Borzois.. welll lol.. its been strange.. The same thing I love about them ( calm easy going nature) is the same thing that bites you in the obedience ring- that- and the fact a sit is not natural for a borzoi. Its like you sitting on a bony tail bone, crumply up long legs- hardly a natural behavior in a sighthound..
I had 17 OTCh's over my life time but that is over 20 years or more.. Most were shepherds, one was a collie, but first was a poodle. I trained by a game of each as a event.. ie- get whatever done as fast as possible.. ie how fast can you drop on recall etc.= start with that mentality a OTCH is easy but it takes daily devotion on both dog AND owner..

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

oh come on.

No one has ever had 17 Obedience Trial Champions.

Put up or SHUT UP.

Acutally having a OTCh dog is not that hard. You take each or train each as a game like they do with agility. To get a OTCH you need fast sits, good attention, fast retrieves.. To me- it wasnt hard- however- at the time I was working with a breed that it fit natually.. Having Borzois.. welll lol.. its been strange.. The same thing I love about them ( calm easy going nature) is the same thing that bites you in the obedience ring- that- and the fact a sit is not natural for a borzoi. Its like you sitting on a bony tail bone, crumply up long legs- hardly a natural behavior in a sighthound..
I had 17 OTCh's over my life time but that is over 20 years or more.. Most were shepherds, one was a collie, but first was a poodle. I trained by a game of each as a event.. ie- get whatever done as fast as possible.. ie how fast can you drop on recall etc.= start with that mentality a OTCH is easy but it takes daily devotion on both dog AND owner..

 

[Dekka]

BM where did you do these trials?

 

[CharlieDog]

In the land of hookey.

 

[xpaeanx]

In the land of hookey.

:rofl1:

 

[corgipower]

http://www.americank9country.com/ak9c-about.html

"Tucker" (CH. Nimrod Frankie's Tucker UDT, Can CDX) was first & ONLY bloodhound of all time to receive OTCH points along with multiple High in Trials.

Yet another one of her Bloodhound partners, "Ryder" (Ch. The Nimrod's Rainbo Ryder CD)had multiple first places, High in Trials and "Sunday's Best" at a Gaines Classic with a score of 199 1/2, being the highest scoring obedience Bloodhound of ALL TIME!

Anyone who can put OTCh points and HITs on bloodhounds is very impressive, IMO. Doing it with GSDs is easy compared to that.

******TEN 200's********
#1 "First & Foremost" All-Breed Obedience Dog for 2004
#2 All Breed for OTCH points 2005
#1 Herding Dog at the AKC National Obedience Invitaitional 2005
#1 Obedience Border Collie for 2004 & 2005
#3 All-Breed Obedience OTCH Points for 2004
100+ High in Trials
100's High Combined's
110 UDX legs
Over 2,000 OTCH points to DATE!!!
100's of First Placements
Earned his CD in 3 shows with 3 FIRSTS! Dog World and Multiple HIT's
Earned his CDX in 3 shows with 3 FIRSTS! Dog World and Multiple HIT's
Earned his UD in 3 shows with 3 FIRSTS! Dog World and Multiple HIT's
OTCH in 9 SHOWS!!
UDX in 11 SHOWS!!
RN, RA & RE all firsts in 3 Shows!
Earned his conformation Championship with 4 majors in 4 weekends with multiple Best of Breeds!
Herding Sheep A Course in 3 trials-all top placements!
Placed 13th in the WORLD @ CRUFTS (The World's Largest Dog Show) in Birmingham England in March of 2006

As for OTCh in AKC - you have to have a UD in order to have an OTCh. To get an OTCh you need ~

1. 100 points
2. Afirst place in Utility B with at least three dogs in competition
3. Afirst place in Open B with at least six dogs in competition
4. An additional first place under the conditions of 2 or 3 above
5. All three first places under three different judges

A UDX is earned by getting qualifying scores in both Open B and Utility B at 10 separate licensed or member obedience trials. That is, they need to qualify in both open and utility at the same show. This is an impressive title as well.

*sigh* I wish I hadn't had to retire Ares. I'll never know what he might have earned. He certainly had potential to be an OTCh and UDX dog.

 

[Cheza]

I salute those who can. Great work, not in the cards for me though

 

[elegy]

i'm just hoping to make it to the novice ring in regular obedience some day

 

[doberkim]

I'm going to have to really call BS on this - you've had 17 *US* OTCH's? You'd be a world famous trainer by now if that were the case. The OTCH program has been around just 31 years now, and there are precious few people that have anywhere near 10 OTCH's on their dogs - people with multiple OTCH's are known in the community.

Please, give me the name of any one of your OTCH's - or 2, or 3 of them.

If you are discussing Canadian OTCH's, then this is certainly less impressive and much easier to attain. As Red pointed out, while it is called a canadian OTCH, it is actually just the counterpart of the American UD. The MOTCH, I believe, is more akin to our OTCH.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

I doubt we see her back on this thread, doberkim.

It seems that when anyone has questions about something she has posted she will have nothing more to say about it.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Acutally having a OTCh dog is not that hard. You take each or train each as a game like they do with agility. To get a OTCH you need fast sits, good attention, fast retrieves.. To me- it wasnt hard- however- at the time I was working with a breed that it fit natually.. Having Borzois.. welll lol.. its been strange.. The same thing I love about them ( calm easy going nature) is the same thing that bites you in the obedience ring- that- and the fact a sit is not natural for a borzoi. Its like you sitting on a bony tail bone, crumply up long legs- hardly a natural behavior in a sighthound..
I had 17 OTCh's over my life time but that is over 20 years or more.. Most were shepherds, one was a collie, but first was a poodle. I trained by a game of each as a event.. ie- get whatever done as fast as possible.. ie how fast can you drop on recall etc.= start with that mentality a OTCH is easy but it takes daily devotion on both dog AND owner..

There are many people who might disagree with you that training a dog to an OTCH is not hard.

Fast sits and retrieves and good attention are all important, but you will never finish an OTCH without precision, great heeling, and nailing fronts and finishes.

Of course as I said earlier, I doubt you re-visit this post, or do anything to verify your claim to 17 Obedience Trial Champions.

 

[Dekka]

Fast sits are not all that important actually. As long as the sit happens in a timely manner you don't lose points. Fast sits look better, as does that 'staring at you prancy heeling' but neither are nessesary.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Actually, Dek, in the US, you better have fast sits and LOTS of precision.

The competition for OTCH points in the US is very keen. At AKC trials the top 4 scorers can be in the 198 or 199 range, often with run offs determining the winners and class placements.

It is splitting hairs at trials like this to determine who the winners are, and slow sits are one of the areas where they will whittle points.