Newbie Breeder EXPECTING!
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YAY! Puppies soon! PUPPIES!! 
Just a side note.. I'm a little confused.. are people not supposed to breed dogs for pets? Just for show? Aren't dogs pets? Are people only 'supposed' to have pure bred dogs if they show them? What's so bad about breeding a dog to produce pets if someone wants that breed as a pet?
Sure there are lots of homeless dogs out there and dogs in shelters, but shelter dogs aren't for everyone. Some people want a specific breed, know the lines of the dog, etc.. things they can't get from a rescue dog.
In a perfect world maybe purebred dogs would only be for show and all the rescue dogs would go as pets and overpopulation of dogs would no longer be an issue. But this is far from a perfect world.. and this person is breeding responsibly in her opinion. To her it seems morally acceptable to breed her dog for pets. And that's her choice. When you people say it's morally wrong to breed a dog for pets, that's YOUR morals and opinions, and you're certainly entitled to them, however you can't always expect others to conform to this by attacking people.
Just my 2 cents..
Just a side note.. I'm a little confused.. are people not supposed to breed dogs for pets? Just for show? Aren't dogs pets? Are people only 'supposed' to have pure bred dogs if they show them? What's so bad about breeding a dog to produce pets if someone wants that breed as a pet?
Sure there are lots of homeless dogs out there and dogs in shelters, but shelter dogs aren't for everyone. Some people want a specific breed, know the lines of the dog, etc.. things they can't get from a rescue dog.
In a perfect world maybe purebred dogs would only be for show and all the rescue dogs would go as pets and overpopulation of dogs would no longer be an issue. But this is far from a perfect world.. and this person is breeding responsibly in her opinion. To her it seems morally acceptable to breed her dog for pets. And that's her choice. When you people say it's morally wrong to breed a dog for pets, that's YOUR morals and opinions, and you're certainly entitled to them, however you can't always expect others to conform to this by attacking people.
Just my 2 cents..
Not every purebred dog, no. But having a nice pet does not tell you whether the dog is breeding quality. If someone wants more pets, they can go to rescue or a responsible show/work breeder. Breeding unproven (often untested) pets to produce more pets is nothing to be proud of. There's no ethical reason for it.
Maybe it is a conspiracy..............
See, if these kind of "professional breeders" rid the world of people who breed untitled,unhealth tested, un proven, un anything dogs, then they can be the puppy peddlars and rake in all the dough!!!
Seriously, that what it seems like sometimes.
I mean sure, you arent gonna breed your dog with mange, hip disp, MR, ataxia, CP, or an obvious genetic fault or disease, but if you have 2 prime examples of great dogs, never exhibited any major problems, whatever.
ALSO, it is a chi, not a pitbull!
See, if these kind of "professional breeders" rid the world of people who breed untitled,unhealth tested, un proven, un anything dogs, then they can be the puppy peddlars and rake in all the dough!!!
Seriously, that what it seems like sometimes.
I mean sure, you arent gonna breed your dog with mange, hip disp, MR, ataxia, CP, or an obvious genetic fault or disease, but if you have 2 prime examples of great dogs, never exhibited any major problems, whatever.
ALSO, it is a chi, not a pitbull!
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But there is an ethical reason for breeding dog to throw in the ring? I dont think so! How many of those puppies that are are born to show end up not conforming? LOTS...A lot more than ever end up competing!!!! And you are going to tell me that breeding for the ring is ethical and breeding for pets is not? Same difference!
People this arguing obviously isn't working so can we drop you. Y'all know nothing for sure about this person and what she did to be prepared. To me it seems like she did some research so all is well, its nice to have someone to talk to when you are going through something so wonderful yet crazy as this.
This is fun, I always wanted to raise puppies. I'm with you Mach, time to pull out the popcorn. I just want some pictures of the babes.
This is fun, I always wanted to raise puppies. I'm with you Mach, time to pull out the popcorn. I just want some pictures of the babes.
Every breeder is responsible in their own mind. And yes, I've met plenty of BYB who really do care about their dogs and think they're doing the right thing, when in reality they are producing mediocre dogs with health problems and placing them in poorly screened homes.
What's so bad about breeding pets just to produce pets? Go work at a shelter for even a week, and you'll see.
Also read National Parent Club Codes of Ethics. Breeding unproven pets is not breeding to improve the breed.
I understand that shelter dogs are not for everyone. If someone wants a pet with a known background, then they can go to responsible people who breed their dogs for work and/or show.
What's so bad about breeding pets just to produce pets? Go work at a shelter for even a week, and you'll see.
Also read National Parent Club Codes of Ethics. Breeding unproven pets is not breeding to improve the breed.
I understand that shelter dogs are not for everyone. If someone wants a pet with a known background, then they can go to responsible people who breed their dogs for work and/or show.
I personally believe the most responsible breeders have dual-purpose dogs (if their dogs are a breed bred with a purpose - herding, hunting, racing, etc.). But in many breeds, there is no purpose or work for them (I do not consider agility or obedience "work"). So the only real way to judge any sort of breeding quality is the conformation ring.
And no, it is not "same difference." Rather large difference, actually.
Also, I can't think of a single responsible breeder who would sell an intact puppy to someone who intended to breed pets. It's not what responsible breeding is about. So you know where the "pet breeding" folks get their stock - from other pet breeders who most likely don't prove or test.
And no, it is not "same difference." Rather large difference, actually.
Also, I can't think of a single responsible breeder who would sell an intact puppy to someone who intended to breed pets. It's not what responsible breeding is about. So you know where the "pet breeding" folks get their stock - from other pet breeders who most likely don't prove or test.
You know almos tall dogs bred for racing have only that purpose- racing. They have no dual purpose like you said. Greyhounds have very reputable parent but they are killed after only a few years. Seems to me you should be trying to stop the breeding of dogs for race purposes like that instead of stopping stuff like this which at least these puppies are going to have a happy life. Yes a happy life. As I have said before and many other people have said also, you know nothing at all about this person. You dont know if they did a health check or not, you dont know how thoroughly they are going to check the adoptee applicants, Stop expecting that you do. How come you brush aside this? Do you not want to be wrong, trust me, better to admit to being wrong now then going even further down hill. Yes there may be things wrong with this but too late. This litter has happened but the next one hasn't so take it easy and explain kindly through a PM. And get some answers from her about health checks and such before assuming she didn't do it.
All this waiting for these puppies is tiring. I want them now! I sound like a five year old. Chis are cute
All this waiting for these puppies is tiring. I want them now! I sound like a five year old. Chis are cute
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