New here from Delaware

[Diamond Chihuahuas]

Hi Huronbreeze,

Yes, I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from. I changed my website to reflect the fact that I do guarantee them longer than 7 days, it was just not worded correctly. It is worded to make you take your dog to the vet for similar reasons that you mention. I, too, have never ever had any unhappy people, so it was something that didn't concern me as it would a stranger who doesn't know us. (My website is fairly new and I constantly revisit the wording, etc.) Prior to my website, I have done business from word of mouth and have always had a waiting list from recommendations of happy buyers. I, also, have all my pups vet checked before they leave. I also pass along all papers related to all of their vet checkups, shots, wormings, etc. $600 for a well-bred pup is more than reasonable as there are many expenses involved. Not to mention a chi has from only one to four pups as a normal expected average litter. To expect a show quality dog as Gwinnywillow wishes and for only 300-500 dollars ... wow, I surf the web a lot and I've never encountered that kind of a guarantee. Nothing's impossible though. And absolutely nobody can say a chi will be guaranteed to free-whelp. Sorta like telling a woman that it is impossible for her to run into any problems having her baby.....not gonna happen. It's an unknown thing until the times comes as with any birthing.
I wish to welcome you as you have me and I hope they don't attack you, too...lol. I guess some assume most breeders are bad...what a shame. I know there are plenty of puppy mills out there and I would suggest that their energy be spent on going after these people. I have no puppies available and have a waiting list that is quite long for any puppies in the future. I think that says a lot for our reputation.

Karen

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Well, maybe I don't have it worded real good and I'll revisit that. Its meant to make you take your dog to the vet and get it checked out so you know you have a healthy dog. We have all our dogs vet checked before they go to a new home and I give all the papers to the buyer, shot records, wormings, everything. I have never had a dog with a health issue and when it came to putting all the policies, etc on the website, I checked out what other breeders were using as guidelines. That's all, nothing else meant by it. I keep in close touch with all my little ones. We just had a lady that got a dog from us six years ago stop in and say hi and brag about her chi and how well it is doing.

What health testing do you do before breeding?

My dogs have champion backgrounds and I have sold many show quality dogs at pet quality prices.

I'm just curious how you determine show quality when you are not using show dogs for breeding, and you do not show dogs yourself. Can you educate me on that?

Its not about the money. I am very into breeding a dog to the standard.

How do you learn about the standard and how dogs fit the standard if you don't compete with your dogs?

What is your position on the Merle issue?

 

[Diamond Chihuahuas]

I don't have to show a dog to know what the standard for chihuahuas is. I have purchased dogs from other breeders that have champion bloodlines. The litter I just sold last was bred with a dog that is a champion sire. Kato's bloodline has American and Canadian Champions in it.

I have been interested in showing a dog but just don't know where to get started. In Delaware, we don't have a lot of clubs, etc. The closest one that I know of is in Wilmington. I have a son with Leukemia which takes up a lot of our time back and forth in the hospitals and doesn't leave a lot of extra time that I'm sure it would take to work with a show dog. Working full time and dealing with a child with cancer can be quite trying at times.

As for merles, I think its a shame that someone would introduce a merle into their lines. I have read a lot and from what I can see, they are not a purebred and it is a shame to risk bringing up a litter of blind puppies, etc and all the negatives that go with it. They are very large and too many are playing with merles these days, messing up the pureness of the breed.

Hope that answers your questions. If not, feel free to pm me.

Karen

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

So if you don't show, I ask again. How do you understand how to apply the breed standard to your dogs.

How do you know how your dogs measure up if you don't show dogs?

How can you grade puppies as pet or show quality if their parents are not being shown?

What dogs do you feel are excellent examples of your breed?

You feel confident enough to breed dogs and grade them as pet or show quality, but you have no idea how to get started showing a dog?

Delaware all breed clubs I found are:


Mispillion Kennel Club, Inc.

Corresponding Secretary : Blackie Nygood
Address: 22998 Rum Bridge Rd, Georgetown, DE , 19947
Email: [email protected]
Club Type: All Breed

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Wilmington Kennel Club, Inc.

Corresponding Secretary : Martha Doerner
Address: c/o The Wilmington Kennel Club, Newark, DE , 19702--260
Website: www.wilmingtonkennelclub.org
Club Type: All Breed

 

[Gwinnywillow]

Any reputable breeder of even the highest quality dogs is going to have pups on occasion that do not quite meet their critical eye. These pups they will sell on a spay/neuter, limited registration basis for between $300-$500 regardless of breed.

Now there are rip off artists in every breed who will rob you just because they are dealing with a "rare" breed. And that is a shame.

There is no such thing as "Champion bloodlines". I do not ever recall seeing a vial of blood being judged at a show. And how you end up with free whelping females is by only breeding females who CAN free whelp, and spaying those that need C-Sections. The problems associated with needing C-Sections are hereditary.

The advantage of breeding top quality dogs from champions is because those dogs are moderately well known, and so are their kids. And any problems are more likely to be known. If I want a puppy, I would much rather have one from a breeder who has shown, and hopefully done some winning, and knows the genetics of her breed, etc. Most breeders of this caliber will give a lifetime warranty on their pups, and are there for the life of that dog to help and answer questions, etc. And of course, this breeder will sell those pet pups on limited registration. And some will even give spay and neuter rebates!!

What is with this "Merle" stuff? Has someone crossed dapple dashhunds with Chihuahuas?

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

GW, it's not really known how the merle gene got into the Chihuahua gene pool. Many do feel that an outcross to a different breed had to happen somewhere along the line.

The jury is still out on what the National Club is actually going to do about it, but they do have an advisory about it on their web site.

 

[xxxpoo]

Welcome to the forum!

If you haven't noticed already, these people like to bash others ....... especially breeders and owners or purchasers of "designer dogs"

I'm curious how they all got their dogs if somebody wasn't breeding them....

 

[Brattina88]

xxxpoo please don't label all of us. . .

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

welcome I love Chis

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

Thanks Zoom...you are right after reading the last two posters. I will say I am hesitiant about staying around just to get "ate alive" by a few. Seems most are friendly. Definitely puts me in a defensive mode!

Gee, last time I checked, that was a very fair price. A whole lot less than quite a few others out there. Hmm....one to four pups is an average litter, $600+ if we need a c-section, dew claws removed, shots, worming, heartworm protection, flea preventative, litter registration, starter kit to send home, collars, .....guess you want a dog for free? You need to go to the shelters if money is an issue with you. These dogs need homes, too, and I'm sure you can get one for $75 - $100. I seriously doubt they will give you a health guarantee but there are a lot of good matches made from shelters.

7 days to take your dog to the vet and make sure you have no issues seems quite fair. Good grief is right.

If it makes you feel better, I have been breeding since 98 and we have never had one unhappy person, ever. And we keep in touch with every one of our buyers, exchange pics, emails, calls, and even have get togethers. I am always a call or visit away and my buyers know this. When we sell one of our puppies, its a relationship made, not a money deal.

When I created my website I researched several others to see what they posted as policies, guidelines, etc. What I posted is similar to many others.

I stand behind every baby I have ever sold and we have never had one complaint, EVER! To me, that is something that I am very proud of.

I can take constructive criticism, but that's not the issue here. I came here to meet some nice folks, learn, share my thoughts, listen to yours, but some of you guys are definitely in an attack mode. I am proud of my chi's and can stand behind any one of them. They are healthy, socialized, loved and well-cared for and that is what matters! I usually have a list of buyers just waiting for us to have a litter because they like what they see in ours. We only have a litter or two a year and sometimes not even that.

Wow, when I joined this forum I never dreamed I would have to defend myself like this! But, I have no problem standing up for myself.

Karen

Please stay

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

There is nothing wrong with breeding dogs if it's done the proper way.

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

There is nothing wrong with breeding dogs if it's done the proper way.

I agree

 

[bubbatd]

I welcome you here and wish this had been posted in the breeding section. I only came here to check on a new "trouble maker" member and saw your posts. Yes, many of us here have their own thoughts of breeding... we're a mixed bag, and I've never seen any to atone a BYB... that's why you were asked so many question. If you are a true " breeder" who sticks by the rules, then defend yourself. We'll listen. From what I gather, you breed 3 females ...do they breed to your sire ?? Any cross or line breeding ?? The only thing ( as a past breeder ) that really bothered me, that your precious baby had to whelp on her own. When her temp dropped , nothing in heaven or earth could have made me go to work and leave her !

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

I'm still wondering about the very first question I asked Diamond about health testing.

What health testing do you do on your dogs before breeding?

 

[Denaluvscorgis]

Hi & welcome to Chazhound!! It's really nice to have you here.