Very very easily. Our OEB (Olde English Bulldogge) can easily bend aluminum bars to his liking. Chain link fences are no match for any of my dogs & even my first lab/rottie mix tended to destroy them in places.
As for pancho, I really wish you'd quit speaking on behalf of all us APBT owners. Your statements of "we only believe in one kind of dog & all the other kinds of uselss curs" & blah blah blah are getting on my nerves. Not to mention they are completely unfounded, I don't ever remember electing you as our "captain" to speak for us. And for the record: I'm friends with 1 very well known APBT owner who no longer has any dogs, but when he did he also owned dogs of other breeds (like Patterdale Terriers). So I guess he wasn't a "real dogman" huh?
I do not speak for all pit bull owners. I was speaking on behalf of the old time pit bull breeders. I definately am not a speaker for the modern day pit bull owner and breeder. The opposite is more likely. The old time breeders were not responsible for the recent dog bans, they are not responsible for the recent pit bull attacks.
I consider you to be one of the more modern day owners. I don't even know if you breed your dogs.
The patterdale is not a very old breed. I remember when they were developed, that is very recently. They, much like the american bulldog, are a breed made up and developed in recent years.
Many of the old time pit bull breeders owned other cur dogs. Many were also owners and breeders of other breeds of dogs.
I did not ask you for permission to post, As far as I know that is not necessary.
When most of the pit bulls were owned by the old time breeders there was not a problem with pit bull attacks. This is also a recent development.
Before I was 30 years old I do not know a single pit bull attack, much less a death. There was plenty of pit bulls but there wasn't any attacks.
The attacks began when the breed began to be owned as a pet by many people who had no idea about the history or traits of the breed. The old time breeders did not use the dog as a status symbol, they did not use the dog as a weapon, they mostly did not use the dog for protection, the pounds were not all filled with pit bulls and pit bull crosses. There was very few shelters as they were not needed, they also are a recent development. I never knew there was such a thing as a shelter until I was a grown man. This is all recent developments.
Back in those days the pit bull was very much respected, parents were not afraid to leave their children to play with their pit bull. Many times the family pit bull was the babysetter. Families would allow their children to play with the neighbors pit bull without fear. Back then there was even free running pit bulls, they caused no problems what so ever. There has been many champion fighting dogs allowed to run free.
Before the time I learned to walk I would crawl over to my mother's dog, Butch, a very nice pit bull. He was allowed to run free along with my fathers favorite black and tan hound. Neither dog ever even growled at a child even with the abuse a young child could pile on them. Both dogs were allowed free run all over the farm with all types of farm animals.
There was not very many stray dogs back then. Sometimes a lost hunting dog would show up for a few days until the owner found them or they rested up for the journey home.
These are the people I am refering to when I use the word "we".
Sorry for the confusion.