My puppy is fearless...

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My 9 wk old beagle Muddy is fearless. He isn't fazed by ANYTHING. Yelling, clapping, can shaking, even the water bottle to the nose doesn't do anything. It's nice to know that I don't have a dog that freaks out all of the time, but I'm afraid that it's going to be hard to train or discipline him since he doesn't stop what he's doing when you do any of those things. I'm hoping that he's just too young to know what's going on around him, but I would think that some of these would at least kind of spook him. He chews, bites, whines, barks like crazy... so how am I suppose to teach him not to do those things?

 
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you know i would put some vinegar in that water bottle... or when he does something bad put a bit on his tongue but carry a small squirt bottle in your pocket to do that when he is doing it... vinegar taste nasty to them and they stop doing that type of stuff.... my female did that and i finally started using a water gun and i started putting vinegar in it and she stopped try it it may work...

also contact a behavioralist... because your baby needs some discipline soon :D hugs
 

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He chews, bites, whines, barks like crazy... so how am I suppose to teach him not to do those things?
Hmm, sounds like you've got....a dog!
There's no need for punishment here, there is need for teaching! If your baby isn't doing all those things, what alternatives are there for him/her?
First off, chewing. I'm assuming you have some amazing chewtoys your dog likes? Good, lock her in a place where the only things to chew are her chewtoys. This will establish a good chewing habit.
Biting, what do you do for that? It's most likely biting is a form of attention seeking, combined with the fact that that is how puppies explore their world. A loud yelp and an immediate five minute isolation is a good cure. NO attention. Remember, even bad attention is better than no attention in a dogs mind.
 

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Why would you want to spook your dog, yell at your dog, spray things at him, get him with vinegar, scare him with loud noises? I would never spray vinegar at my dog. It could be injureous if it got into the eyes. What do you want your dog to think of you? Do you want a dog who respects and trusts you? That, to me is the first and very most important foundation of learning, the most important piece of training "equipment" there is.

To end undesireable behaviors, remove the reward or payoff and do like Bridey says. End all playtime if the dog is biting on you. Give an alternative chew toy and praise for chewing that.

What do you do when he whines? If you talk to him, whether you say, "no" or any word, if you look at him, if you make any reaction to his whining, THAT IS a payoff/reward and so he'll be more likely to repeat that. If nothing good comes from his whining, it will tend to diminish and stop.

Barking is harder because it is such a communication for a dog, especially a Beagle. You can teach "enough." I assume you'd want the dog to bark sometimes, as an alert to a stranger coming to your house or to warn you of something. So, "no" is not a good command because that means he is NEVER to bark. I use "enough" and when my dogs bark too much, I've checked....nothing there, I go to them, distract them and upon stopping, I say, "enough." (that's when they're first learning. They don't know the word yet, so to show them what it means, they need to stop first, so they'll associate the word with stopping barking. Later you will be able to say the word, "enough" while they're barking) When they stop, I praise lavishly, "goooooood enough." That way they know that stopping when I say that, is what I want and it's worth their while because they get all kinds of praise and even a treat...not just any treat, but a very tasty one. You have to be consisant and carry out what command you use. Don't give a command that you can't enforce.

There are a few tips I hope will be of some use. Just remember that it's more effective to show your dog what you DO want and reward, make it worth his while than it is to yell, spray things at or any other punishment. Punishment doesn't show the dog what he's suppose to do. Sometimes we think a dog should understand what to do, but they don't. So to punish what they're not suppose to do doesn't really help. And it makes the dog distrust you and only want to "work" to avoid punishment, not to receive something good. A dog working for reward learns faster and better than one who works out of fear or avoidance of punishment.
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been ignoring him when he whines or nips at me, but I think I don't ignore him long enough. When I'm playing with him, and he nips me, I say "ouch" and walk away from his playpen. Sometimes he starts whining or barking. I wait around the corner for him to stop, and when I see him starting to chew on his toys again, I assume that he's over it and come back (usually a little less than a minute). When it comes to barking and whining alone (which I think it might be a little seperation anxiety), I ignore him and go about my usual business. When he finally stops and just lays down, I come to him. It's usually only about 45 seconds after he quiets down. Is that too little time to give him? I'm afraid that he might think that the crying and whining pays off because I eventually come.
 

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When he finally stops and just lays down, I come to him. It's usually only about 45 seconds after he quiets down. Is that too little time to give him? I'm afraid that he might think that the crying and whining pays off because I eventually come.
That's just fine what you're doing. In fact, if your dog is chewing nicely on a toy right after you walked off, tell him, "good boy." It's good to reward good behavior within 4 seconds of his starting it. Dogs, after about that amount of time are onto something else. LOL. They live in the moment. If he's been not chewing on you for 4 seconds, praise him. If you go to him and he sets his teeth on you, end playtime again. If he starts chewing on a toy, right away, praise him. This shows him that it is the toy you want him to chew and not you. In other words, within 4 seconds of commencing good behavior, reward him so he makes the connection between THAT behavior and the reward. Let him know that he receives good stuff when he is not chewing on you. Let him know right away how good he is. He'll catch on eventually and even when he does, there will be those times where he'll test you. He's just a pup and pups do this. LOL.

I sure hope I explained that right. In other words.....LOL, like I didn't use enough words already.....If someone is going to punish their dog for something, it needs to happen within 3 or 4 seconds of the crime or the dog will not make a connection. If someone is going to reward a dog for a behavior, it needs to come within 4 seconds of performing the behavior. However, you might come across your dog doing something that you like sometime. Say, the dog has been chewing on his bone for 20 minutes and you walk in the room and you like that he is chewing on his bone. Since he's still chewing his bone, it's good to tell him how wonderful he is.

But like say you want your dog to sit. When he does, you need to reward him within 4 seconds of obeying the command to help him understand what you mean.
 

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This is still a youngster, and it is good to be gentle with these guys. Gentle gets, as gentle does...they are always learning from us. Even if I'm playing, my hands are gentle. I don't like to encourage "mouth-play" with hands.

Eye contact is good when you are using a disaplinary word or tone. This is the best age to begin building a bond with positive reinforcement methods and a bit of the NILIF added as your puppy gets older. Forgive me, I'm a bit rusty on young pups!

I always find it important to let a dog know when their behavior is not acceptable by me. They don't know if you don't tell them. This can be done quite gently, with confident leadership and communication. No need even for any big "corrections". It is simply teaching with a short word or tone, such as "eh-eh" or "hey", the moment you want to let them know they're heading into an "iffy" area.

I have found with some dogs, communicating with them the moment they even have their first "inclination" to move in an unwanted direction, works very well. I just deal with it, and then move on to something more interesting and rewarding...calm and easy. :)
 
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As a Beagle owner, and rescuer, I can tell you...Beagles are BAD puppies! They are very stubborn by nature, and that shows so much when they are puppies...when they don't know better! All I can say, is be patient, beagles are one of the most loyal dogs you will ever come across...and it does get a little better...lol.
 

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Oh Muddy sounds just like my Jake. I've read all the posts and am taking all the advice. Thanks Doberluv!
 
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Patience is the key here. If you can associate nipping, barking and any other bad behavior to something he doesnt like (putting in a crate or you ignoring him when he wants to play... It reinforces the behavior he has into something negative. Just make sure you give lavish praise when he does do something good... Don't be to tuff on him he is very young and learning every day...
 

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