Amen, I couldn't have said it better myself...and this whole Communism praise is sickening! I mean really people, go live in a Communist Country for a year and tell me how great it is then to be treated as a herd of sheep all going in the same direction and and never progressing anywhere else. Why ever go to college and get a degree then or ever challenge yourself to be successful if the crack head down the street is going to get the same lifestyle as you??? All you Commie lovers, read Orwells book, 1984 and tell me how great of a life that is.
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Amen, I couldn't have said it better myself...and this whole Communism praise is sickening! I mean really people, go live in a Communist Country for a year and tell me how great it is then to be treated as a herd of sheep all going in the same direction and and never progressing anywhere else. Why ever go to college and get a degree then or ever challenge yourself to be successful if the crack head down the street is going to get the same lifestyle as you??? All you Commie lovers, read Orwells book, 1984 and tell me how great of a life that is.
Also this made me think of something.....if Hilary Clinton is so "FOR" making an equal healthcare system for everyone...then why doesn't herself and all her candidates who are campaigning put all of their campaign money earned into one giant pot and split it up in the end EQUALLY among all of them???? I bet Hilary, who will probably make a lot more then many of them would not like that very much would she?
No I definately believe he should not have allowed to even enter the documentary catagory. His films aren't documentary, they are a carefully selected group of facts designed to guide you to a certain way of thinking. A real documentary would present all the facts on a certain subject. However most everything big that comes out in the documentary catagory these days is more of an opinion piece then an actual documentary.
We get fox news on satellite here along with most major news networks including things like BBC, Fox News, CNN MSNBC along with the Canadian CBC Newsworld and CTV Newsnet.
I wouldn't be surprised... I watched the Daily Show and then it's Spin off The Colbert Report everyday until I moved in with Jenn. Now we watch the Simpsons
Some people don't see it as satire and see it as fact... I only wish I knew some of these people... I have a bridge to sell them.
We get fox news on satellite here along with most major news networks including things like BBC, Fox News, CNN MSNBC along with the Canadian CBC Newsworld and CTV Newsnet.
I wouldn't be surprised... I watched the Daily Show and then it's Spin off The Colbert Report everyday until I moved in with Jenn. Now we watch the Simpsons
Some people don't see it as satire and see it as fact... I only wish I knew some of these people... I have a bridge to sell them.No health care system is perfect but the pitfalls of profit health care are more deadly than the pitfall of NHC. 18K people die every year because of problems with Profit HC. That a MM number but it hasn't been disputed by anyone.
I never said like you...I was talking about your influences on raising a child in retort to your attack on my teaching (which you admit you have no clue about) You are attempting to put words in my mouth because you can't find real flaws in my arguments so you manufacturer them much like your idol drug addict Rush.
You continue to try to link National health care to Nazis....this is such a bogus argument you make your self look silly. The evil that the Nazis committed had nothing to do with government managed health care. Did they do some bad thing through their health care..yep, they did evil things through everything they did.
Nazis turned private factories into houses of horrors...that some American companies were involved in. So by your flow of logic, then all private factories must be evil and resisted by free people.
Interesting..after that comment if you treat everyone you have a discussions with the same way then I feel sorry for your social network and your mental health. Think about it, how many discussions have you had where you know in your heart that as people walk away from you they are just shaking heads thinking unpleasant thoughts.
I am not saying we have to do exactly what they do...I even suggested a few pages back that the government could cover catastrophic illnesses to reduce the cost of health care insurance and prevent profit denial deaths.
All right and nothing but the right.......... How about the environment..although that is a whole nother thread.
Actually none....Federal Law states that people can go to Cuba for journalistic endeavors....I don't view him as a true journalist but that is the law that will protect them.
What a law our government has...can't go to Cuba? So much for freedom.
I never said like you...I was talking about your influences on raising a child in retort to your attack on my teaching (which you admit you have no clue about) You are attempting to put words in my mouth because you can't find real flaws in my arguments so you manufacturer them much like your idol drug addict Rush.
You continue to try to link National health care to Nazis....this is such a bogus argument you make your self look silly. The evil that the Nazis committed had nothing to do with government managed health care. Did they do some bad thing through their health care..yep, they did evil things through everything they did.
Nazis turned private factories into houses of horrors...that some American companies were involved in. So by your flow of logic, then all private factories must be evil and resisted by free people.
Interesting..after that comment if you treat everyone you have a discussions with the same way then I feel sorry for your social network and your mental health. Think about it, how many discussions have you had where you know in your heart that as people walk away from you they are just shaking heads thinking unpleasant thoughts.
I am not saying we have to do exactly what they do...I even suggested a few pages back that the government could cover catastrophic illnesses to reduce the cost of health care insurance and prevent profit denial deaths.
All right and nothing but the right.......... How about the environment..although that is a whole nother thread.
Actually none....Federal Law states that people can go to Cuba for journalistic endeavors....I don't view him as a true journalist but that is the law that will protect them.
What a law our government has...can't go to Cuba? So much for freedom.
I wonder how many people will die related to a NHC system introduced. Such a system would most likely be rapidly overwhelmed. The chaos and disorgnaization during the transition process would likely "kill" that many at least.
As for MM's numbers... He says that 47 million people in the US do not have health insurance. A doctor of Indian decent, I cannot recall his name but I heard a transcript of the conversation, broke those numbers down.
17 Million of those people are between jobs. They had insurance when they left their previous job and will have it again when they get a new one.
18 Million of those are young people who choose to take the calculated risk of not having it.
7 Million are people who are eligible for public health care programs, but for whatever reason, choose to not enroll in them.
He also mentioned some other interesting tid bits... In Canada, on average, it takes 6 days to have a emergency heart catheterization procedure. 60 days for a non-emergent one... In the US, emergent heart catheterization can be done in hours, non-emergent in 3 days.
The taxes required to provide this level of care to everyone would sooner or later, seriously injure our economy. So either the quality and quantity of cares goes down, or we all go broke and live like good communist minions do.
I love libs who never let anything go. Rush, unlike a great many celebrity types, admitted he had a problem, got treated and MOVED ON with his life. Everybody has flaws, but not everyone admits to them and/or tries to change them. How nice would it be if people focused on the positive things people do, eh?
And please save the "idol" crap. To me, he is simply a voice of one side of the issues. You never hear that side in the "main stream" media.
May I ask your opinion on the "fairness doctrine"?
How is it logical to start with SOME companies and then end up with ALL companies?
Oh and thanks for the eye rolling. Speaks volumes.
So now you are a teacher AND psychologist? Sweet.
This matters? Again I say that if you worry about what people think of you, you will always be disappointed. I am sure people have walked away from me thinking such things, does that make ME mentally unhealthy?
As for MM's numbers... He says that 47 million people in the US do not have health insurance. A doctor of Indian decent, I cannot recall his name but I heard a transcript of the conversation, broke those numbers down.
17 Million of those people are between jobs. They had insurance when they left their previous job and will have it again when they get a new one.
18 Million of those are young people who choose to take the calculated risk of not having it.
7 Million are people who are eligible for public health care programs, but for whatever reason, choose to not enroll in them.
He also mentioned some other interesting tid bits... In Canada, on average, it takes 6 days to have a emergency heart catheterization procedure. 60 days for a non-emergent one... In the US, emergent heart catheterization can be done in hours, non-emergent in 3 days.
The taxes required to provide this level of care to everyone would sooner or later, seriously injure our economy. So either the quality and quantity of cares goes down, or we all go broke and live like good communist minions do.
I love libs who never let anything go. Rush, unlike a great many celebrity types, admitted he had a problem, got treated and MOVED ON with his life. Everybody has flaws, but not everyone admits to them and/or tries to change them. How nice would it be if people focused on the positive things people do, eh?
And please save the "idol" crap. To me, he is simply a voice of one side of the issues. You never hear that side in the "main stream" media.
May I ask your opinion on the "fairness doctrine"?
So by your flow of logic, then all private factories must be evil and resisted by free people.
Oh and thanks for the eye rolling. Speaks volumes.
So now you are a teacher AND psychologist? Sweet.
This matters? Again I say that if you worry about what people think of you, you will always be disappointed. I am sure people have walked away from me thinking such things, does that make ME mentally unhealthy?
Hmmm.....doesn't happen in other countries. The change could be gradual to avoid this massive Chaos and disorganization you foretell of.
That is assuming they will get another job and it hasn't been out sourced.
Calculated or forced to the inability to pay for it? Then when they do get seriously ill and they go to the emergency room....guess who pays the inflated price that could have been avoided with preventive health care.
How many Americas will have to wait forever because their for profit health provider says it was a pre-existing condition or it is not covered?
Well we seem to have plenty of money for everything else except health care. We are now spending 12 Billion per month executing a personal vendetta in Iraq and generating profit for the military industrial complex.
Rush was not only an addict but a liar and cheat (Doctor shopping) according to reports. It goes to his quality of character and history of hypocrisy.
When I posted that comment I wasn't referring to you. I have no problem with many conservative messages that Rush has I just don't like his delivery and how so many people are true "Ditto" heads.
This may shock you but I believe that nothing should limit freedom of speech (except calls for violence). I think the market should decide what is played on radio or TV. I do think it is important to have NPR (which you most likely disagree with) which IMHO offers more in depth coverage of the issues and doesn't focus on entertainment like people like Rush. So to sum it up..I am completely against the "Fairness Doctrine"
Once again this was not aimed at you but I was pointing out that when blue kept slamming Universal Health Care as bad because the Nazis did it was logically flawed. The Nazis did a lot of things and worked their evil into them....however that doesn't mean everything we share with Nazi Germany is evil. Nazi Germany practiced private ownership....is that evil. Nazi Germany had for profit businesses is that evil, Nazi Germany allowed people to go to Christian churches...is that evil. Please read the context of my comments....I am clearly not against private factories.
Once again context, I was hitting my head on a brick wall. He was repeatedly using the same argument over and over regardless of it being non sequitur.
Actually I do have a license to teach psychology, not that it matters because the average high school student could see the anger issues I was addressing.
Once again context. I was commenting on his attacks upon me and my profession that has nothing to do with our discussion. It was not his stance on topics but his repeated need to talk about my teaching. How would have been if I would have repeatedly talked about his job and how it relates to his arguments?
I hope people on this board can have discussions without being personally attacked especially where it has no relation to the topic or discussion.
That is assuming they will get another job and it hasn't been out sourced.
Calculated or forced to the inability to pay for it? Then when they do get seriously ill and they go to the emergency room....guess who pays the inflated price that could have been avoided with preventive health care.
How many Americas will have to wait forever because their for profit health provider says it was a pre-existing condition or it is not covered?
Well we seem to have plenty of money for everything else except health care. We are now spending 12 Billion per month executing a personal vendetta in Iraq and generating profit for the military industrial complex.
Rush was not only an addict but a liar and cheat (Doctor shopping) according to reports. It goes to his quality of character and history of hypocrisy.
When I posted that comment I wasn't referring to you. I have no problem with many conservative messages that Rush has I just don't like his delivery and how so many people are true "Ditto" heads.
This may shock you but I believe that nothing should limit freedom of speech (except calls for violence). I think the market should decide what is played on radio or TV. I do think it is important to have NPR (which you most likely disagree with) which IMHO offers more in depth coverage of the issues and doesn't focus on entertainment like people like Rush. So to sum it up..I am completely against the "Fairness Doctrine"
Once again this was not aimed at you but I was pointing out that when blue kept slamming Universal Health Care as bad because the Nazis did it was logically flawed. The Nazis did a lot of things and worked their evil into them....however that doesn't mean everything we share with Nazi Germany is evil. Nazi Germany practiced private ownership....is that evil. Nazi Germany had for profit businesses is that evil, Nazi Germany allowed people to go to Christian churches...is that evil. Please read the context of my comments....I am clearly not against private factories.
Once again context, I was hitting my head on a brick wall. He was repeatedly using the same argument over and over regardless of it being non sequitur.
Actually I do have a license to teach psychology, not that it matters because the average high school student could see the anger issues I was addressing.
Once again context. I was commenting on his attacks upon me and my profession that has nothing to do with our discussion. It was not his stance on topics but his repeated need to talk about my teaching. How would have been if I would have repeatedly talked about his job and how it relates to his arguments?
I hope people on this board can have discussions without being personally attacked especially where it has no relation to the topic or discussion.
Perhaps... I just wonder how people of our society and standard of living will react to how the quantity and quality of care must change when we move to a social system. Also, it is interesting that you did not comment on the amount of taxes we would have to pay to keep the quality and quantity we enjoy now, the same. Or how such a level of taxation would effect our overall quality of life.
Like most socialist ideas, super duper intentions to quite often end up not working. But then again, most socialist don't allow the actual results to be judged, only their "good intentions".
Record low unemployment tells me that this is not the case.
Perhaps some cannot afford it, but even McDonalds offers health plans today... This leads me to believe that most choose not to have it.
Instead of making a uninsured person's care "free", (that is on the taxpayer) make em pay it back. Either through installments and/or some kind of community service. I think community service would be a wonderful way for welfare recipients to "earn" what they get.
This is why I am actually FOR regulating insurance companies to never be allowed to deny life or death care.
Also, please do me the favor of answering my question before you ask a follow up.
Uh oh... Here we go. We must HAVE a country to have social healthcare. Iraq being a "personal vendetta" is just "blogosphere" retoric. I have first hand experience in that area of the world. We either fight them where we can, or we fight them here. Admittedly, GWB and company have handled it VERY, VERY poorly. Who would have thought a "cowboy" like GWB would give a hoot about being Politically Correct in fighting a enemy such as this? You clearly do not understand the nature of this enemy. And before you blow some more DailyKos BS at me, know that I have been in the same room as several of this enemy before.
Find me a talking head who is NOT a hypocrit and I will GIVE you my oceanfront property in Arizona. If 90% of the media hated you, they would find something on you.
Should we discuss the vast majority of socialist politicians who live on the high hog?
Well looky there! We agree on something.
You had me until you qualified it. I believe that the only real way to fix this country is nothing short of a full scale revolution. Such a thing would be deemed treason and would certainly require the use of force. Should that speech be limited? Do not forget this nation was founded by people commiting high treason.
I do disagree with withi a lot of NPR, but I admittedly do not listen very often. Why? Because it is BORING. Liberal talk radio would work if they just did not suck at it so much. Be funny some and less angry. Learn from Rush. You may hate him and/or his style, but it such as heck sells. That entertainment factor is why conservative radio mops the floor with anything else.
Fair nuff...
To you perhaps... But I digress. I only commented here because I saw what you said and was replying to merely that.
But are you a actual psychologist? I ask because questioning a persons mental health, based on a public internet forum....
Fair Nuff...
"Interesting..after that comment if you treat everyone you have a discussions with the same way then I feel sorry for your social network and your mental health. Think about it, how many discussions have you had where you know in your heart that as people walk away from you they are just shaking heads thinking unpleasant thoughts."
If that is not a personal attack, cleverly disguised no doubt, then what is?
Or were you pointing that statement at me??
Like most socialist ideas, super duper intentions to quite often end up not working. But then again, most socialist don't allow the actual results to be judged, only their "good intentions".
Record low unemployment tells me that this is not the case.
Perhaps some cannot afford it, but even McDonalds offers health plans today... This leads me to believe that most choose not to have it.
Instead of making a uninsured person's care "free", (that is on the taxpayer) make em pay it back. Either through installments and/or some kind of community service. I think community service would be a wonderful way for welfare recipients to "earn" what they get.
This is why I am actually FOR regulating insurance companies to never be allowed to deny life or death care.
Also, please do me the favor of answering my question before you ask a follow up.
Uh oh... Here we go. We must HAVE a country to have social healthcare. Iraq being a "personal vendetta" is just "blogosphere" retoric. I have first hand experience in that area of the world. We either fight them where we can, or we fight them here. Admittedly, GWB and company have handled it VERY, VERY poorly. Who would have thought a "cowboy" like GWB would give a hoot about being Politically Correct in fighting a enemy such as this? You clearly do not understand the nature of this enemy. And before you blow some more DailyKos BS at me, know that I have been in the same room as several of this enemy before.
Find me a talking head who is NOT a hypocrit and I will GIVE you my oceanfront property in Arizona. If 90% of the media hated you, they would find something on you.
Should we discuss the vast majority of socialist politicians who live on the high hog?
Well looky there! We agree on something.
You had me until you qualified it. I believe that the only real way to fix this country is nothing short of a full scale revolution. Such a thing would be deemed treason and would certainly require the use of force. Should that speech be limited? Do not forget this nation was founded by people commiting high treason.
I do disagree with withi a lot of NPR, but I admittedly do not listen very often. Why? Because it is BORING. Liberal talk radio would work if they just did not suck at it so much. Be funny some and less angry. Learn from Rush. You may hate him and/or his style, but it such as heck sells. That entertainment factor is why conservative radio mops the floor with anything else.
Fair nuff...
To you perhaps... But I digress. I only commented here because I saw what you said and was replying to merely that.
But are you a actual psychologist? I ask because questioning a persons mental health, based on a public internet forum....
Fair Nuff...
"Interesting..after that comment if you treat everyone you have a discussions with the same way then I feel sorry for your social network and your mental health. Think about it, how many discussions have you had where you know in your heart that as people walk away from you they are just shaking heads thinking unpleasant thoughts."
If that is not a personal attack, cleverly disguised no doubt, then what is?
Or were you pointing that statement at me??
Well other countries with much weaker economies seem to do ok.
Yeah, have you seen the stats on most of the new jobs created after industry is out sourced..low paying service jobs. Not all employment was created equal.
Great Idea...I am all for that!
Keep going! I am loving it so far (thats scary :yikes: )
I have a lot more knowledge about the region than you think...them assumption can be tough ones Heck...look at the name of my male dog My main focus in historical studies in college was the middle east and Islam.
Fight them? Fight who. There was very little Al Qeda in Iraq before we got there. Iraq was all about Bush and not about the "War on Terror". The US going to Iraq has become a HUGE recruitment tool for Islamic terrorist groups all over the world. Iraq has become some perverse magnet for every Islamic wacko and lost soul in the middle east.
Afghanistan was/is a legitimate war, the Taliban and Al Qeda were/are big buddies.
My understanding of the area is much deeper than Bush's. I knew that Iraq was a powder keg waiting to blow. Iraq isn't even a real country. Its boundaries were drawn up by the British not "Iraqis". Iraq is a region not a country. One of the reasons Saddam was so brutal (besides being evil) was that is was very difficult to hold what is actually 3(maybe even four) "countries" together. Most people in Iraq identify by tribe, ethnic group and religion long before they call themselves Iraqi.
We should have settled Afghanistan first and then worried about other areas. Remember not one terrorist on 9/11 was from Iraq. If we are fighting a preventive war...you know...fight them over there before they come here, why don't we invade Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? That is where most of the terrorist are coming from and the planning is being done.
Agreed their are hypocrites on both sides it the nature of humanity.
That "treason" was to the colonial power of England....
Revolution can happen without blood shed. Its hard that way but doable . The only problem is as long as the economy keeps humming and the majority of people can still get stuff to numb their minds (I mean cars, xbox etc..) they won't revolt on principles anymore....because we have lost most of them.
Our society has completely been pacified by materialism.
NPR is a lot more fair and balanced than fox. I will admit it is boring at times but much more informative. "Liberal" radio like Air America is God awful...they rant and rave while using bogus logic just like the Right Wingers.
I think a huge problem in our society today is the constant need to be entertained. We don't just read or listen just to gain knowledge any more we what to be entertained 1st, 2nd and 3rd and if we learn something by accident...well thats cool too.
Thank you
No I am not a licensed psychologist. I am not a fireman either but I know when a house is on fire.
Well perhaps you have a point and I should have rose above the attacks and not lowered myself. I have yet to master the part where I should turn the other cheek. However the last statement you quoted was an honest concern I had because of his obsession on that facet of my life; one I hold dear to my heart.
Yeah, have you seen the stats on most of the new jobs created after industry is out sourced..low paying service jobs. Not all employment was created equal.
Great Idea...I am all for that!
Keep going! I am loving it so far (thats scary :yikes: )
I have a lot more knowledge about the region than you think...them assumption can be tough ones
Heck...look at the name of my male dog My main focus in historical studies in college was the middle east and Islam.Fight them? Fight who. There was very little Al Qeda in Iraq before we got there. Iraq was all about Bush and not about the "War on Terror". The US going to Iraq has become a HUGE recruitment tool for Islamic terrorist groups all over the world. Iraq has become some perverse magnet for every Islamic wacko and lost soul in the middle east.
Afghanistan was/is a legitimate war, the Taliban and Al Qeda were/are big buddies.
My understanding of the area is much deeper than Bush's. I knew that Iraq was a powder keg waiting to blow. Iraq isn't even a real country. Its boundaries were drawn up by the British not "Iraqis". Iraq is a region not a country. One of the reasons Saddam was so brutal (besides being evil) was that is was very difficult to hold what is actually 3(maybe even four) "countries" together. Most people in Iraq identify by tribe, ethnic group and religion long before they call themselves Iraqi.
We should have settled Afghanistan first and then worried about other areas. Remember not one terrorist on 9/11 was from Iraq. If we are fighting a preventive war...you know...fight them over there before they come here, why don't we invade Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? That is where most of the terrorist are coming from and the planning is being done.
Agreed their are hypocrites on both sides it the nature of humanity.
That "treason" was to the colonial power of England....
Revolution can happen without blood shed. Its hard that way but doable . The only problem is as long as the economy keeps humming and the majority of people can still get stuff to numb their minds (I mean cars, xbox etc..) they won't revolt on principles anymore....because we have lost most of them.
Our society has completely been pacified by materialism.
NPR is a lot more fair and balanced than fox. I will admit it is boring at times but much more informative. "Liberal" radio like Air America is God awful...they rant and rave while using bogus logic just like the Right Wingers.
I think a huge problem in our society today is the constant need to be entertained. We don't just read or listen just to gain knowledge any more we what to be entertained 1st, 2nd and 3rd and if we learn something by accident...well thats cool too.
Thank you
No I am not a licensed psychologist. I am not a fireman either but I know when a house is on fire.
Well perhaps you have a point and I should have rose above the attacks and not lowered myself. I have yet to master the part where I should turn the other cheek. However the last statement you quoted was an honest concern I had because of his obsession on that facet of my life; one I hold dear to my heart.
I believe that Iraq was already on thin ice back during the Golf War and could have been settled back then and should have been by the agreement that was come to by the UN and Iraq. So what you are basically saying is that we should just ignore the fact that the treaty was broken and take that chance of Iraq having WMD's???? I'm sorry but I believe it was you who said safety should come first, am I right?
We had no hard evidence that they had WMDs. Turns out they didn't. We went into a hornets nest and created a really chaotic situation based on Dubyas hunch. It was clear from the beginning that Bush wanted to take out Iraq. He had plans in the works when he took office even though other people were warning him about a group called Al-Qeda.
The only way to settle Iraq is to dissolve it into three autonomous regions that share the oil revenues or install a brutal dictator and forget about democracy.
What we should have done is continue to keep Iraq under close supervision and limit their ability to develop WMDs.
Before we topple a government we need to know exactly what we are going to do with the vacuum of power left behind. We just can't go in "Guns a blazing"
edit addition....about Iraq being on thin ice, there is a good reason why Bush sr. didn't topple Saddam...we could have but didn't because the father was wiser than the son.
The only way to settle Iraq is to dissolve it into three autonomous regions that share the oil revenues or install a brutal dictator and forget about democracy.
What we should have done is continue to keep Iraq under close supervision and limit their ability to develop WMDs.
Before we topple a government we need to know exactly what we are going to do with the vacuum of power left behind. We just can't go in "Guns a blazing"
edit addition....about Iraq being on thin ice, there is a good reason why Bush sr. didn't topple Saddam...we could have but didn't because the father was wiser than the son.
SIGH.... Neither are PEOPLE. The essence of why socialism will NEVER work in a non-homegenous society.
I know... :yikes: :lol-sign:
Your studies in college.... This is where the difference between knowledge and wisdom shows. Have you ever BEEN there? Have you been in the same room as a totally devout islamic fundamentalist and heard him speak?
The fact that you do not know who the enemy is, shows you really do not understand them. You only need LISTEN to them to know.
The Old Testament also provides a guide.
Still debated and debatable. To me however, quite illrelevant. When the enemy defines Iraq as the "central front", thats good enough for me. We get to kill them on THEIR dirt.
GOOD. It's easier to squash bugs out in the open.
How you respond here will say a lot about what you really know about this enemy and the difference between the whabbist muslim and the others.
The first sentence is a bit of a stretch, eh? You might know more than Bush (not saying much) but I doubt you know more than his Middle East focus people. But I digress...
The war on terror is about SO much more than GWB. Once you can look at it outside your dislike for GWB, it might become a little more clear.
But as for the last part... I agree. The failure of Yugoslavia (another place I got to see in the Army, twice) should be a loud gong here. Break the place up into 3 seperate countries. It worked in Yugoslavia, it will work there.
This enemy has no borders, only a belief. Country of origin of the combatanats is irrelevant.
AMEN!!!! Once the bad guys overthrow Pakistan, which seems inevitable now, it will be interesting to see what happens next.
Agree... But WHEN everything starts to come apart, do you think "peaceful" means are going to rule the day?
Then again, will I even be on Earth at that point?
That dose not mean dookie if nobody is listening. Like (admittedly) one of my heros, Glenn Beck, says... "A fusion of entertainment and enlightenment". Once the libs can do THAT, then they might be able to compete on the radio and I honestly think that will be a good thing. At least it will get the moron libs from trying to squash free speech via legislation.
Not everybody is as serious as you. Most people are not ignorant of the issues, they just choose to ignore them because they understand that the talking heads are morons and could give a rip about us. Too bad more are not willing to DO something about it.
Come now... That is a bit of a stretch, no?
First, thank you.
Believe me, I KNOW what you are saying about turning the other cheek. But I look at it like this....
There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Sheep, Wolves and Wolfhounds.
Most people are sheep, they just coast along getting by day to day. Not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, they could be envied sometimes.
There are of course the Wolves, the proverbial bad guys. It is usually obvious to most who they are, but sometimes not.
Then there are the Wolfhounds. A Wolfhound is bred to guard his flock. Somtimes he is a willing participant, sometimes not, but he cannot shake that instinct in the back of his head. A Wolfhound LIVES for the fight, to defend his flock. You and I are Wolfhounds I think. As for myself, I often find myself wishing I were not. I wish I could just ignore the world around me, do my job, love my wife, kids and dogs and just be happy. But I simply cannot ignore what I see and I know in my gut to be wrong. I MUST fight it, to not do so would be unfaithful to how God made me.
See I think Blue is Wolfhound too, but a slightly different breed than you or I. He guards a different flock, but he stands vigilant.
You know what I mean?
I know... :yikes: :lol-sign:
I have a lot more knowledge about the region than you think...them assumption can be tough ones Heck...look at the name of my male dog My main focus in historical studies in college was the middle east and Islam.
Heck...look at the name of my male dog My main focus in historical studies in college was the middle east and Islam.
The fact that you do not know who the enemy is, shows you really do not understand them. You only need LISTEN to them to know.
The Old Testament also provides a guide.
Still debated and debatable. To me however, quite illrelevant. When the enemy defines Iraq as the "central front", thats good enough for me. We get to kill them on THEIR dirt.
GOOD. It's easier to squash bugs out in the open.
How you respond here will say a lot about what you really know about this enemy and the difference between the whabbist muslim and the others.
The first sentence is a bit of a stretch, eh? You might know more than Bush (not saying much) but I doubt you know more than his Middle East focus people. But I digress...
The war on terror is about SO much more than GWB. Once you can look at it outside your dislike for GWB, it might become a little more clear.
But as for the last part... I agree. The failure of Yugoslavia (another place I got to see in the Army, twice) should be a loud gong here. Break the place up into 3 seperate countries. It worked in Yugoslavia, it will work there.
This enemy has no borders, only a belief. Country of origin of the combatanats is irrelevant.
AMEN!!!! Once the bad guys overthrow Pakistan, which seems inevitable now, it will be interesting to see what happens next.
Agree... But WHEN everything starts to come apart, do you think "peaceful" means are going to rule the day?
Then again, will I even be on Earth at that point?
That dose not mean dookie if nobody is listening. Like (admittedly) one of my heros, Glenn Beck, says... "A fusion of entertainment and enlightenment". Once the libs can do THAT, then they might be able to compete on the radio and I honestly think that will be a good thing. At least it will get the moron libs from trying to squash free speech via legislation.
Not everybody is as serious as you. Most people are not ignorant of the issues, they just choose to ignore them because they understand that the talking heads are morons and could give a rip about us. Too bad more are not willing to DO something about it.
Come now... That is a bit of a stretch, no?
First, thank you.
Believe me, I KNOW what you are saying about turning the other cheek. But I look at it like this....
There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Sheep, Wolves and Wolfhounds.
Most people are sheep, they just coast along getting by day to day. Not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, they could be envied sometimes.
There are of course the Wolves, the proverbial bad guys. It is usually obvious to most who they are, but sometimes not.
Then there are the Wolfhounds. A Wolfhound is bred to guard his flock. Somtimes he is a willing participant, sometimes not, but he cannot shake that instinct in the back of his head. A Wolfhound LIVES for the fight, to defend his flock. You and I are Wolfhounds I think. As for myself, I often find myself wishing I were not. I wish I could just ignore the world around me, do my job, love my wife, kids and dogs and just be happy. But I simply cannot ignore what I see and I know in my gut to be wrong. I MUST fight it, to not do so would be unfaithful to how God made me.
See I think Blue is Wolfhound too, but a slightly different breed than you or I. He guards a different flock, but he stands vigilant.
You know what I mean?